I'm not sure I understand. Nothing's changed on my system in the last week or so, but STATUS now says 0.34 CPUs + 1.00 NVIDIA GPU. This is on each of 2 different lines. My apps haven't changed, but it seems like overhead is climbing. The only GPU crunching occurs on SETI WU's, and the only other type of WU's I do crunch are Einstein's. Are their WU's just getting that more complicated? If so, you'd think the numbering scheme for each WU would be significantly different, but they're not.

Most of us run optimized applications, and in that case the values are fixed.
With your own value.

Not sure what you mean by "with your own value", but I'm not writing anything to anything. I've installed BOINC, chosen my projects, it has downloaded what it needs and that's all there is to the story on my end. I have no idea if I'm optimized or not. Where possible, I told whatever was asking that I'm using a 64 bit OS, BOINC included, and let it do things from there. CUDA versions of SETI and Einstein work, although I disabled CUDA from Einstein due to inefficiencies in their GPU number crunching.

I guess it really doesn't matter. Work gets done when the SETI servers are up, and Einstein work gets done when SETI servers are down. Although I will have to admit that if the number keeps climbing, I will have to switch to something else as it won't make sense to use a whole CPU to drive one GPU, like Einstein did. If things get that out of whack, I'll just pull the plug on these last 15 yrs or so and save some money.

Thanks for trying to explain it to me.

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After small look to your PCs..
You let run stock SETI@home.

What you see in BOINC Manager is a value only for the BOINC program to calculate how much work you have downloaded and you need for to hold your x days WU cache settings.

This value have nothing to do with the [EDIT: real] CPU support for the GPU.
You don't need to worry about to overload your GPU/CPU.

You could install for SETI@home optimized applications.
The CPU would double the RAC.
Your RAC on GPUs would increase also because of not to calculate < 0.12x AR WUs.

Have a small look in my -> <- (quick instruction).

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Maybe additional..

I have there (0.19 CPUs + 1.00 NVIDIA GPUs)..
This mean on my QX6700 @ 4x 3.14 GHz with OCed GTX260-216 that the GPU get support from 19 % of one CPU-Core.

Open your Windows TaskManager [CTRL] + [ALT] + [DEL] and look to the cpu utilization. The task name is like MB_6.08_CUDA.exe or something similar.
[EDIT: now maybe MB_6.09_CUDA23.exe]
What you see then there is the CPU support of the whole CPU.
If a QUAD-CPU.. this value x4.

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Not sure what you mean by "with your own value", but I'm not writing anything to anything. I've installed BOINC, chosen my projects, it has downloaded what it needs and that's all there is to the story on my end. I have no idea if I'm optimized or not. Where possible, I told whatever was asking that I'm using a 64 bit OS, BOINC included, and let it do things from there. CUDA versions of SETI and Einstein work, although I disabled CUDA from Einstein due to inefficiencies in their GPU number crunching.

I guess it really doesn't matter. Work gets done when the SETI servers are up, and Einstein work gets done when SETI servers are down. Although I will have to admit that if the number keeps climbing, I will have to switch to something else as it won't make sense to use a whole CPU to drive one GPU, like Einstein did. If things get that out of whack, I'll just pull the plug on these last 15 yrs or so and save some money.

Thanks for trying to explain it to me.

The .23 CPUs is simply an estimate made by the servers based on the estimated speed of the GPU compared to your CPU Whetstone benchmark. The primary purpose of that estimate is to control how many tasks of each type your host will run at the same time. The .23 value means you could change preferences for your Q6600 host to only allow it to use one CPU, and it would run two CUDA tasks plus one CPU task.

                                                              Joe

When looking in Task Man, I typically see 4 programs running that each max out at 25 for the most part. That seems to be a misnomer to me though. The graph for each CPU is slammed at 100, although I would think that each WU being run would also max out at 100, but apparently THAT number is 1/4 of my system total, not the actual specific CPU total.

Nonetheless, I understand now about the numbers. They are not to be worried about and won't be causing me to pull the plug.

As for the optimized apps, wouldn't they be automatically downloaded at time of installation? Or are we talking an alpha or beta version of something? I'm not too concerned with RAC, as I am not in a race. It is only recently that I have boosted my system components far beyond what I actually need just so I could crunch more. I've always been happy to just let whatever current system I have run 24/7.

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When looking in Task Man, I typically see 4 programs running that each max out at 25 for the most part. That seems to be a misnomer to me though. The graph for each CPU is slammed at 100, although I would think that each WU being run would also max out at 100, but apparently THAT number is 1/4 of my system total, not the actual specific CPU total.

Nonetheless, I understand now about the numbers. They are not to be worried about and won't be causing me to pull the plug.

As for the optimized apps, wouldn't they be automatically downloaded at time of installation? Or are we talking an alpha or beta version of something? I'm not too concerned with RAC, as I am not in a race. It is only recently that I have boosted my system components far beyond what I actually need just so I could crunch more. I've always been happy to just let whatever current system I have run 24/7.

Search for Lunatics Seti and use the unified installer. http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9
If you are running Windows thats is otherwise it's a little bit more work.
For the cpu it should go twice as fast, at least.
I use it 24/7 no problems whatsoever.

As for the optimized apps, wouldn't they be automatically downloaded at time of installation?

That's the downside of using optimised apps: you have to do all the downloading (at least of the installer). Nothing is done automatically with respect to new application versions.

Gruß,
Gundolf

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SETI@home classic workunits 3,758
SETI@home classic CPU time 66,520 hours

As for the optimized apps, wouldn't they be automatically downloaded at time of installation?

That's the downside of using optimised apps: you have to do all the downloading (at least of the installer). Nothing is done automatically with respect to new application versions.

Gruß,
Gundolf

Why is that considered a downside? These awesome people all on their own put all this hard work into making an app that is faster and totally volentary to use and this is a downside? Guess having a video card is a downside to my computer since I have to download new drivers once in awhile? It isn't like they make new apps every other day.

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mdawson, maybe you mix the naming/meaning of CPU in BOINC and CPU in Windows.
In BOINC one CPU mean one CPU-Core.
In Windows CPU mean the whole CPU (all CPU-Cores).

In TaskManager you must calculate x4 if you have a QUAD-CPU.
If you would have a DUO-CPU, this value x2.

This what you see as 25 % tasks, is a whole CPU-Core with an project application. It should be named setiathome_enhanced_6.03.exe or something similar.
The GPU project application is/are named setiathome_enhanced_6.09_CUDA23.exe or something similar. In TaskManager I see there on my QX6700 + GTX260-216 0 - 4 % CPU usage. This mean 0 - 16 % CPU-Core usage.

Don't be afraid to install the opt. apps.
Very easy.
The project would be happy if you would install, because the science will be calculated faster..
The project can't send you opt. apps, because of some reasons.
For example, the stock app must calculate well on all CPUs out there.
The new CPUs have extensions (MMX, SSE, SSE2..) and the opt. apps use this extensions, because of this faster calculation. BOINC don't know which CPU you have, so it send out an suitable for all CPUs.

Opt. apps.. small look in my -> <- (quick instruction).

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Why is that considered a downside?

Downside as in no automatic downloads of new versions, as is done with stock apps. I didn't say one word about the quality of the opt apps.

Gruß,
Gundolf

Why is that considered a downside?

Downside as in no automatic downloads of new versions, as is done with stock apps. I didn't say one word about the quality of the opt apps.

Gruß,
Gundolf

Hi, wasn't meaning to be rude was just curious. Seems I have upgraded apps about 3 or 4 times in a couple years and even with 11 machines it is not much hassle compared to the amount of science that they do. I download the installer shut down Boinc and run installer not much to it. At first they seem complicated as this is new but then it all makes sense and gets easy. Stepping up to Cuda is another learning curve but learning is good. I am afraid you may steer some away that could benifit is all. Plus for me it is a lot of the fun.

Sorry if I didn't word this right.

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