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hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
Am thinking of getting Asus P7P55D Pro $169.99 Intel I7-860 $269.99 Supertalent DDR3-1600 4 gig kit CL8 $98.00 $7.00 UPS ground PNY GeForce 9800GT 512MB PCI Express 2.0 Video Card w Dual DVI SLI Ready $89.99 Any thoughts on this? I had never heard of the Socket 1156 but the MB's are a lot cheaper. How would this chip compare to a I7-920? Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
zpm Send message Joined: 25 Apr 08 Posts: 284 Credit: 1,659,024 RAC: 0 |
bad kit.. imo... 1156 can only use 2 channels of the 3 channels of ddr3 ram... if it were me, i would go with lga 1366. a kit like mine is better... http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=6506989 thats a full build from scratch machine list. i add, that if hex-core were out, i would build with the soon to be i9 core. I recommend Secunia PSI: http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/personal/ Go Georgia Tech. |
Jon Send message Joined: 12 Aug 09 Posts: 157 Credit: 139,063,241 RAC: 0 |
I just bought the i7-920 from Newegg for $289. |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
Nice Machine, I'm afraid Santa Will have to be really nice to me for that. I was building this one to replace my Mothers P4 3.06 that is dying a slow death, her machine crunches too. Asus says this about the memory... "Dual-Channel DDR3 2200(O.C.) / 1600 / 1333 / 1066 support The motherboard supports DDR3 memory that features data transfer rates of 2200(O.C.) / 1600 /1333 / 1066 MHz to meet the higher bandwidth requirements of the latest 3D graphics, multimedia, and Internet applications. The dual-channel DDR3 architecture enlarges the bandwidth of your system memory to boost system performance." Figured it would take a hit with the lower bus speed. Do you think it will take a real big hit? I am pushing her budget as is but figure this would be faster than getting her a Q9550 which is about my only other choice. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
I just bought the i7-920 from Newegg for $289. It's the Motherboard that is too expensive. I only use Asus and I want SLI... Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
zpm Send message Joined: 25 Apr 08 Posts: 284 Credit: 1,659,024 RAC: 0 |
I just bought the i7-920 from Newegg for $289. hold that thought. sli won't do much for crunching but works very well for graphics... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131405 |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65747 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I don't see why the OP's selection would be a bad cruncher, If cost were no object I'd buy a 1366 motherboard(Asrock X58 SuperComputer), Antec 902 case, i7 930 cpu(the 920 cpus replacement), cpu water cooler(Corsair H50, works for 775, 1156, 1366(It should do 1156) and AM2, AM2+ and AM3, Sorry no 939/940 support) and some 4-6GB ram(Corsair Dominator or Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600/PC3-12800), plus a video card(any of the Nvidia 200 series really: 260-295 or certain ATi 38xx, 48xx and newer cards) that can crunch and do Windows 7(DirectX 10/10.1/11). It really just depends on what one can spend, In any case I'd imagine anyone reading this will get an idea or two. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Luke Send message Joined: 31 Dec 06 Posts: 2546 Credit: 817,560 RAC: 0 |
I don't see why the OP's selection would be a bad cruncher, If cost were no object I'd buy a 1366 motherboard(Asrock X58 SuperComputer), Antec 902 case, i7 930 cpu(the 920 cpus replacement), cpu water cooler(Corsair H50, works for 775, 1156, 1366(It should do 1156) and AM2, AM2+ and AM3, Sorry no 939/940 support) and some 4-6GB ram(Corsair Dominator or Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600/PC3-12800), plus a video card(any of the Nvidia 200 series really: 260-295 or certain ATi 38xx, 48xx and newer cards) that can crunch and do Windows 7(DirectX 10/10.1/11). It really just depends on what one can spend, In any case I'd imagine anyone reading this will get an idea or two. Core i7 930? I'll hold off on my build until that is released then. Hopefully it will be the same price as the 920. - Luke. - Luke. |
hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 |
I just found an Asus P6TSE LGA1366/ Intel X58/ DDR3/ CrossFireX/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard for $179.99, So I don't need SLI for having 2 nvidia cards crunching? I figure as cards get cheaper I may add some 9600GSO's later to my machines. Glad I posted as I had the rest in the shopping cart but think I can change now. Is that a decent board? Seems it only adds around $13.00... Estimated Total(before Tax & Shipping)$565.98 Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65747 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I don't see why the OP's selection would be a bad cruncher, If cost were no object I'd buy a 1366 motherboard(Asrock X58 SuperComputer), Antec 902 case, i7 930 cpu(the 920 cpus replacement), cpu water cooler(Corsair H50, works for 775, 1156, 1366(It should do 1156) and AM2, AM2+ and AM3, Sorry no 939/940 support) and some 4-6GB ram(Corsair Dominator or Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600/PC3-12800), plus a video card(any of the Nvidia 200 series really: 260-295 or certain ATi 38xx, 48xx and newer cards) that can crunch and do Windows 7(DirectX 10/10.1/11). It really just depends on what one can spend, In any case I'd imagine anyone reading this will get an idea or two. It's not like It's one of My priorities Luke, That PC build is more wishlist than anything else for Me, As I have the Cars A/C to fix, property taxes, etc, So I'll be sticking with My current 3 PCs as the money only goes so far. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Luke Send message Joined: 31 Dec 06 Posts: 2546 Credit: 817,560 RAC: 0 |
I don't see why the OP's selection would be a bad cruncher, If cost were no object I'd buy a 1366 motherboard(Asrock X58 SuperComputer), Antec 902 case, i7 930 cpu(the 920 cpus replacement), cpu water cooler(Corsair H50, works for 775, 1156, 1366(It should do 1156) and AM2, AM2+ and AM3, Sorry no 939/940 support) and some 4-6GB ram(Corsair Dominator or Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600/PC3-12800), plus a video card(any of the Nvidia 200 series really: 260-295 or certain ATi 38xx, 48xx and newer cards) that can crunch and do Windows 7(DirectX 10/10.1/11). It really just depends on what one can spend, In any case I'd imagine anyone reading this will get an idea or two. You've misunderstood. I'm holding off on my build, because you have inadvertently told me that a Core i7 930 is on the horizon, because I was planning on using the Core i7 920. :-) - Luke. - Luke. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65747 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I don't see why the OP's selection would be a bad cruncher, If cost were no object I'd buy a 1366 motherboard(Asrock X58 SuperComputer), Antec 902 case, i7 930 cpu(the 920 cpus replacement), cpu water cooler(Corsair H50, works for 775, 1156, 1366(It should do 1156) and AM2, AM2+ and AM3, Sorry no 939/940 support) and some 4-6GB ram(Corsair Dominator or Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600/PC3-12800), plus a video card(any of the Nvidia 200 series really: 260-295 or certain ATi 38xx, 48xx and newer cards) that can crunch and do Windows 7(DirectX 10/10.1/11). It really just depends on what one can spend, In any case I'd imagine anyone reading this will get an idea or two. You must have missed the memo. ;) http://www.techpowerup.com/107136/Intel_Core_i7_930_Slated_for_Q1_2010.html Google Search - Core i7 930 The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Luke Send message Joined: 31 Dec 06 Posts: 2546 Credit: 817,560 RAC: 0 |
I don't see why the OP's selection would be a bad cruncher, If cost were no object I'd buy a 1366 motherboard(Asrock X58 SuperComputer), Antec 902 case, i7 930 cpu(the 920 cpus replacement), cpu water cooler(Corsair H50, works for 775, 1156, 1366(It should do 1156) and AM2, AM2+ and AM3, Sorry no 939/940 support) and some 4-6GB ram(Corsair Dominator or Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600/PC3-12800), plus a video card(any of the Nvidia 200 series really: 260-295 or certain ATi 38xx, 48xx and newer cards) that can crunch and do Windows 7(DirectX 10/10.1/11). It really just depends on what one can spend, In any case I'd imagine anyone reading this will get an idea or two. Ooh, Thanks for the links. Not too far away from release then... - Luke. - Luke. |
Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0 |
Someone missed the operative words Budget and for Mother... Mother does not know SLI, nor will she use it. The 9800GT is fine and with the right mix of WU's "could" produce close to 6000 RAC/day (this was done using NQueens on the CPU's [Integer based Application] and Cuda for Seti Beta 6.09). For Cuda with AP or MB you really want the largest L2 or L2 and L3 Cache combination (CPU speed is not as important). A Cuda VLAR and AP with an L2 of 1 meg or less is going to lose both will suffer. This comes from discussion during testing of various apps that are now included in the Unified Installer. The machine used that brought up these questions is Seti Beta hostid=42608. So there was a discussion of Memory Latency with L2 Cache size and its affects which is not public. For the most part (simple) bus speed only affects when it has to write to disk (and that is cached). The first thing is Mother wants a machine that will work for the next three years (you do not need to be running to fix it once a month). So in that respect: I would say First and Most Important Point is Power Consumption; You are putting a Quad Core with a Cuda Card you want the "most effecient" you can get Gigaherts is not important. I would look (Within Budget for a 250 GT or look at the 220 GT's) Next Case Cooling, how many favorite cats or dogs live in the house. You will have the machine crunching 24/7 and no one to clean the dust and cr@p other then when you get there. So a bit extra cooling for the machine would be nice as it could reduce headaches other than in the summer when she shuts off the computer as it is too warm around it. Probably the best deal I ever did was last summer needed to get into a upgradable AMD Quad. Circuit City (now defunct) had a sale on an HP Machine with an AMD 9550 (low power as I use a lot) with Vista 64 bit (another necessary item that you have not talked about) for under $500 complete. That machine before the various Seti server issues was holding a RAC of 2800+ without Cuda. It has a 3 year in home warrenty. I did not build it and do not have to run to fix it. Seti Main hostid=4876058. Right now it is running BOINC SIMAP as it is that time of the month. What this states is if you are building a Super Cruncher for "youself" and you have time to babysit it that is fine (its your time). Of the hunderds of computers that I have built for someone else (since the mid 1980's). I have always used the most solid components that would last the longest (I am standing the warranty) life expectency. Somewhere around my garage I have a brand new 286-12 Motherboard that has never had power applied. It was my ready spare which cost me $250 back then. Regards Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
The 920 is a fine chip........ My #2 rig is a 920 with a GTX295, if you don't believe me..... Meow 30k RAC? Meow.......I would say that is a fine chippy. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Heck.......anybody can build a 30K/day cruncher these days. Take a 920, add a 295.....lesse, that makes 1215........ Guess you have to add in the the kitty factor to make up the difference........ Just screw with the clocks on both. Add a bit of kitty fur........and there you have it. LOL. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
gizbar Send message Joined: 7 Jan 01 Posts: 586 Credit: 21,087,774 RAC: 0 |
The 920 is a fine chip........ Ahh, yes, but your reputation precedes you. Everyone knows that you have overclocked 7 bells of s*** out of it, and taken it to within an inch of it's life! ;-) Welcome back, Mark. But I agree. Even though I don't have one myself, it is a great CPU. regards, Gizbar. A proud GPU User Server Donor! |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
The 920 is a fine chip........ ROFLMAO........ Yes, I have a knack for kicking the s**t outta Intel's finest.......... Wrecked a few mobos along the way that could not handle it. But never wrecked a CPU. Intel rocks.......... Been that way since my 233MMX....... And I did OC a bunch of AMD toasters too......................... Sempron Baby, won't you rock with me....LOL. (That's a CCR reference, if some of you missed it...LOL) Now, if my income would just keep pace with Moore's Law...... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
gizbar Send message Joined: 7 Jan 01 Posts: 586 Credit: 21,087,774 RAC: 0 |
Sorry, back on topic. I would go for the best parts that I could afford within my budget. For instance, the ones with the longest warranties for starters, and knowing the backup is there should something fail. This includes case, power supply, and any other parts that you're purchasing. Then I'd put a minimalist system on there, with only the essentials that are required for use. I've done this with my kids' pc, and I find it works really well. It makes maintenance really easy. I won't advise you on parts, as my last couple of systems have been AMD based, which work well, but everyone knows that they are lagging behind Intels current offerings... and I'm not too up to date on them. It seems like your budget is around $600, and you can always re-install the old OS if you're putting the old machine out to pasture. It takes a little mucking about to re-register the OS, but not too much hassle. For the GFX card, I would look at the GTS250, it's basically a rebadged 9800GTX+, and should come in at around the same price as a 9800GT, but is a bit faster, due to a few more stream processors, and is still on sale, whereas the 9800GT is getting a bit harder to find. regards, Gizbar. A proud GPU User Server Donor! |
gizbar Send message Joined: 7 Jan 01 Posts: 586 Credit: 21,087,774 RAC: 0 |
Yes, I have to thank you for that too. I toasted a motherboard and wasn't sure if I'd killed the CPU as well, as it kept rebooting on me. I couldn't run Seti, although it was stable enough to surf the web and email, but nothing more. When a new motherboard turned up, I simply transplanted the CPU and memory, and it fired straight up. regards, Gizbar. A proud GPU User Server Donor! |
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