I currently use a 2 gig processor server for Seti@Home, but I would like to add a desktop, a SLOW desktop, to Seti@Home. It is a 667MHz processor running XP/home. I use to rum it, but that was years ago. Is there any apps that are designed to get the most out of these slow machines. On the machine specs required, the state that a 2 gig processor is the "typical" processor setup. This old machine is many, many years old and I would like to get more life out of it instead of a backup web page browser.

Any help?

by the by
I run the 2 gig Win2000/pro server 24/7/365, now that I am in a new handicapped accessible apartment. No need to have it in my bedroom any more. The fans are "loud" enough to keep anyone awake.

yes you can run BOINC on windows 2k with SP4 installed. The problem you'll have is the speed of work being completed. You'll only want to run seti_enhanced multibeam WU's I would definitely check your seti preferences and unclick any astropulse and run other project tabs. Don't expect miracles

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Diogenes Of Sinope

It's AMD or Intel?
MMX or SSE extension?

My AMD Athlon 600 make around one MB WU [AR 0.4x] per day.
With MMX opt. app.

This mean around 40 RAC if would running 24/7.


Download the installer from here:
http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

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the 667 should handle SSE if its Intel And if I read correctly mmx for amd

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Diogenes Of Sinope

Hi,
I am giving Dotsch/UX a try on a COMPAQ DeskPro EN, P3, 733 with 384MB of RAM.

The OS runs the FireFox Browser much faster, and Internet Access is also much faster. This is in comparison to a fresh install of Win98 or W2K.

Once things start working again at SETI headquarters, I'll be able to see just how fast the WU's are processed.

Visit http://www.dotsch.de/boinc/Dotsch_UX.html for more about Dotsch/UX.

Joe

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BTW.

Ohh.. don't know.. I never used the installer.. I'm an old member and done it manually.. ;-)

The installer have also the MMX opt. app 'on board'?

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BTW.

AFAIK, only for Intel SSE AK v8.0 is available.
This app is in the installer?

The AMD SSE_FFTW opt. app is also available in the installer?
(AFAIK, which is available only on Crunch3r's site, but not publically)


http://lunatics.kwsn.net/discussion-forum/2-4vssefftw-on-this-side-not-available.0.html

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I think the unified installer only goes back to SSE.

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

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BTW.

AFAIK, only for Intel SSE AK v8.0 is available.
This app is in the installer?

Yes.

The AMD SSE_FFTW opt. app is also available in the installer?
(AFAIK, which is available only on Crunch3r's site, but not publically)

No.

Hi Sutaru,
I have been carefully considering options for future installer improvement, including the possibility of widening the variety of applications available, by inclusion of some older & alternative builds (within reason). On the one hand it would be nice to cover all bases, on the other I am resistant to inclusion of builds where we don't have access to the sources (i.e. not built/hosted by Lunatics directly.), Or represent a very small proportion of active crunchers that apply optimised builds, where they haven't applied their installation already. (That this would impose unnecessary extra download bandwidth for everyone else not needing those builds, is another consideration. )

The installer was never intended to entirely replace manual methods, but complement them, mostly aimed at those who don't want to know or don't like error prone fiddling with xml (that includes myself ;D). The other main goal was to reduce some of occurrences of people copying/pasting app_info files from the web pages, which seems to cause lots of problems under certain circumstances.

In all, having started as an experiment, I think that the installer has succeeded in its restricted goals beyond expectations, and it might be a mistake to attempt to be 'all things to everyone'.

Jason

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

it would be nice if the Unified installer had the opt app for sse on AMD

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

I'd still like to see optimized apps with screen saver functionality. I know this is a "minority" thing, but I want to keep running the screen saver on my 52" LCD TV because it looks really nice and I'd prefer to be doing more science per clock cycle.

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it would be nice if the Unified installer had the opt app for sse on AMD

You would need to approach the author of such an app, to make the request to us to include it. (Can't just go grabbing other people's binaries.)

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

I'd still like to see optimized apps with screen saver functionality. I know this is a "minority" thing, but I want to keep running the screen saver on my 52" LCD TV because it looks really nice and I'd prefer to be doing more science per clock cycle.

Oh me too...though it'll likely remain low priority for a while yet with us (with the whole paradigm shift in progress). I'm told it has great uses as a conversation starter, and to impress 'the right kind' of ladies at parties/barbecues and such...

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

I'd still like to see optimized apps with screen saver functionality. I know this is a "minority" thing, but I want to keep running the screen saver on my 52" LCD TV because it looks really nice and I'd prefer to be doing more science per clock cycle.

Oh me too...though it'll likely remain low priority for a while yet with us (with the whole paradigm shift in progress). I'm told it has great uses as a conversation starter, and to impress 'the right kind' of ladies at parties/barbecues and such...

The screensaver on the optimized applications would be nice, but I can't see the point in it. Surely, the point you are using the optimized applications is to make the tasks run faster and to do as much work as possible, increasing your credit. The screensaver only wastes CPU cycles.

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The screensaver on the optimized applications would be nice, but I can't see the point in it. Surely, the point you are using the optimized applications is to make the tasks run faster and to do as much work as possible, increasing your credit. The screensaver only wastes CPU cycles.

That's [one of] the basic premise[s] we work with for the most part, 'chopping out' as much unneeded stuff as possible to help speed up the core computation. There is overhead in producing & transferring the data arrays displayed, for information that isn't a lot of direct use to the computation.

There are foreseeable situations on the horizon, where at least some sort of visual feedback would be helpful, not necessarily in the current stock style or purpose. These include the potential for hybrid applications that form multiprocessing pipelines and the like. Certain kinds of scheduling and performance tuning techniques are difficult to interpret in text/log form.

I'd envisage that something with more useful data to display like that, only appropriate when certain parallelism related design & development paths are introduced, might look like some kind of defragmenter on steroids... with minimal gratuitous rotating green alien heads holding magnifying glasses.

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

I'd still like to see optimized apps with screen saver functionality. I know this is a "minority" thing, but I want to keep running the screen saver on my 52" LCD TV because it looks really nice and I'd prefer to be doing more science per clock cycle.

Oh me too...though it'll likely remain low priority for a while yet with us (with the whole paradigm shift in progress). I'm told it has great uses as a conversation starter, and to impress 'the right kind' of ladies at parties/barbecues and such...

The screensaver on the optimized applications would be nice, but I can't see the point in it. Surely, the point you are using the optimized applications is to make the tasks run faster and to do as much work as possible, increasing your credit. The screensaver only wastes CPU cycles.

I don't run the optimized apps to increase my credit. I run the optimized apps to have my CPUs work more efficiently, but I don't believe that efficiency has to negate eye-candy for the rest of us who still enjoy using the screen saver. In fact, I believe somewhere around here I read that the screen saver, when used with a decent graphics card or modern onboard graphics that the performance loss is negligible. Thus, if performance isn't impacted too much, the point then becomes, as Jason stated earlier, that the graphics is a great conversation starter, or simply something really nice to look at on a big screen TV. In fact I had some movers in my house a short while back that noticed the screen saver running on my TV and he mentioned that he was a user about 10 years ago and simply forgot about it. Unfortunately, the screen saver running on my TV means that I was not getting the most efficiency out of my E8500 (I have since had to remove BOINC from the machine because the summertime heat has hit and I can't afford the electricity, and I don't think I'll be having it return in the winter because things are getting really tight around here).

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Hi, is it a CELERON or PIII ,(the 667MHz) and I would try to use optimized application, as they come in different [i]flavors

Your RAC, a measure of computating, shows you can gain some with an opti-app!
And/or CUDA enabled GPU cards (8800/9800GT{X} etc. Probably 1 667 is enough to drive a 295/280/etc. GPU?!

My QX9650@3.7GHz. takes 0.11CPU to drive a 9800GTX

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Hi, is it a CELERON or PIII ,(the 667MHz) and I would try to use optimized application, as they come in different [i]flavors

Your RAC, a measure of computating, shows you can gain some with an opti-app!
And/or CUDA enabled GPU cards (8800/9800GT{X} etc. Probably 1 667 is enough to drive a 295/280/etc. GPU?!

My QX9650@3.7GHz. takes 0.11CPU to drive a 9800GTX

You'd be unlikely to even find a card for that PC. If I recall very few PIII level Mobo's came with AGP 4X slot. forget PCIe. Do they make a PCI CUDA? Heck the Video card would use more power than the rest of the computer. I'd avoid the though besides he said he's got the PC and just wants to run it for seti. It be like putting pearls on a pig.

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Diogenes Of Sinope

It be like putting pearls on a pig.

Don't you mean lipstick on a pig? ;-)

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nah lipstick on a pig would be putting that rig in a Alienware case. This is definitely is a pearl on a pig. THe funny thing is the GPU throughput would most likely get hindered due to the lack of speed on the Mobo

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope