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Matt Lebofsky Send message Joined: 1 Mar 99 Posts: 1444 Credit: 957,058 RAC: 0 |
Today started messing with one of the new Intel servers. We're still waiting on drives to ship before doing much with it, but at least it boots off of DVD. There are some other kinks to work out as well. I think we're going to call it "mork." We hope to at least replace sidious with this machine, and if we get the other servers working, than replace others. In general we always wish to reduce the hardware we need to maintain - i.e. have less machines doing more stuff. However, we'd like to do so without increasing our single points of failure (redundancy is nice). And given we never buy anything we have to generally stick to a "work with what you got" philosophy. A small note about the front page "weekly outage" status - that's a line at the top of our project_news data file which is commented out. Every Tuesday morning I uncomment it (if I remember to) so people can see it, and hopefully later that day (if I remember to) I comment it back into oblivion. Sometimes I forget, or recovery is slow enough that I keep that warning there so people can get some idea why they're having trouble connecting. In any case, it's human controlled and therefore prone to error. - Matt -- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person -- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude |
PhonAcq Send message Joined: 14 Apr 01 Posts: 1656 Credit: 30,658,217 RAC: 1 |
thanks, Matt, that answers my question on the other thread; moving to fewer/better/but_redundant sounds good. |
Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3184 Credit: 446,358 RAC: 0 |
...I think we're going to call it "mork"... That Mork from Ork? (I think the original title was "Mork and Mindy" :-) |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
...I think we're going to call it "mork"... I was going to suggest that the obvious next name is Mindy. BOINC WIKI |
Pooh Bear 27 Send message Joined: 14 Jul 03 Posts: 3224 Credit: 4,603,826 RAC: 0 |
...I think we're going to call it "mork"... Mork was on Happy Days ways before Mork & Mindy was created. He also showed up on Lavern & Shirley. Yes, it was Robin Williams each time. My movie https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/502242 |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
...I think we're going to call it "mork"... I was thinking "Orson." |
Labbie Send message Joined: 19 Jun 06 Posts: 4083 Credit: 5,930,102 RAC: 0 |
...I think we're going to call it "mork"... Me too. Calm Chaos Forum...Join Calm Chaos Now |
Aurora Borealis Send message Joined: 14 Jan 01 Posts: 3075 Credit: 5,631,463 RAC: 0 |
Matt, would it not be better to make the maintenance notice permanent. It may even be a good idea to expand it a bit to warn of communication problems after the servers are back on. It could serve as an advisory to new users of what to expect every week and might reduce the number of posts inquiring why they have problem contacting the project. Boinc V7.2.42 Win7 i5 3.33G 4GB, GTX470 |
Zydor Send message Joined: 4 Oct 03 Posts: 172 Credit: 491,111 RAC: 0 |
Matt, would it not be better to make the maintenance notice permanent. It may even be a good idea to expand it a bit to warn of communication problems after the servers are back on. It could serve as an advisory to new users of what to expect every week and might reduce the number of posts inquiring why they have problem contacting the project. Thats a good thought - I'll second that :) Regards Zy |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13855 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Matt, would it not be better to make the maintenance notice permanent. Then you'll have people that are confused as the outage occurs on Wednesday for many of us, not Tuesday as advertised. Grant Darwin NT |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
Matt, would it not be better to make the maintenance notice permanent. But the message does say Tuesday PST/PDT. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13855 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Matt, would it not be better to make the maintenance notice permanent. But the outage occurs on Wednesday CST, EST & WST. Grant Darwin NT |
Ingleside Send message Joined: 4 Feb 03 Posts: 1546 Credit: 15,832,022 RAC: 13 |
But the message does say Tuesday PST/PDT. It still says Tuesday PST/PDT, and the outage does happen on Tuesday PST/PDT... They can just link to this page as they've atleast ocassionally done before... Hmm, CST = -6, EST = -5, WST = ??? None seems to be in line with having anything to do with time-zones in Australia... "I make so many mistakes. But then just think of all the mistakes I don't make, although I might." |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
They can just link to this page as they've atleast ocassionally done before... Seeing how it doesn't even show e.g. CEST (Central European Summer Time), it may be better to link to something like Time&Date Worldclock. Of course, then you need to know where approximately you are according to those cities and that Berkeley lies in San Francisco to compare against. ;) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13855 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Hmm, CST = -6, EST = -5, WST = ??? CST Central Standard Time = UTC +09:30. EST, WST/ Eastern, Western. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13855 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
They can just link to this page as they've atleast ocassionally done before... Yep. Which is why i reckon what's done now is as good a method of informing people as any. Grant Darwin NT |
Zydor Send message Joined: 4 Oct 03 Posts: 172 Credit: 491,111 RAC: 0 |
Lets not over complicate the issue searching for perfection, no matter what is done there will always be some who get it wrong - nature of life. Most people on the internet are comfortable with Time Zones, its not any real issue. Just adopt the standard protocol and express it as GMT or UTC. Most know their time zone relative to GMT/UTC, and if they dont they soon get it, its not rocket science. One in a hundred will never get it no matter what system is adopted, its life, meanwhile the other 99 get information better and quicker than before, which can only be a good thing. Regards Zy |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
Hmm, CST = -6, EST = -5, WST = ??? The U.S. also has "Central Standard Time" with the same abbreviation. It's GMT -0600. |
AlphaLaser Send message Joined: 6 Jul 03 Posts: 262 Credit: 4,430,487 RAC: 0 |
It would also be possible to generate a local timezone date using JavaScript...and of course use some standard like GMT time as a fallback when JavaScript is not available. |
KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 3187 Credit: 57,163,290 RAC: 0 |
Hmm, CST = -6, EST = -5, WST = ??? EST & CST generally, particularly if the writer is American, refer to North American Time Zones... and are UTC -4 & -5, respectively. I believe that the Aussie Time zones are usually abbreviated "CAST", "EAST" and "WAST" to prevent this confusion. (for ___ Australian Standard Time, the ___ being Central, Eastern, and Western...) . Hello, from Albany, CA!... |
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