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Aristoteles Doukas Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 1091 Credit: 2,140,913 RAC: 0 |
pity? |
Dagar Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 22 Credit: 704,294 RAC: 0 |
I don't see how bragging about how another platform "doesn't suffer from viruses" is intended to help the OP. Of course, the idea is to entice them to switch, but alas, the question wasn't "How do I get rid of Windows?", so I would think that it may not be an option. this is what i used for a longtime.. eset/nod32 is not the best.. but good enough and as u get it with firewall now, it does a darn good work stopping attacks. and does not bother you to much. It has saved me at least 3 times.. and yes in combo with ad-aware you will be protected.. only problem is protection from root kits. well that was a problem when i used it.. it has prolly changed in latest version. Low footprint as mentioned above + a long history of making a-virus program (the original creators, as i remember, was active way back when amiga was active :) ) overall high score by me :) Brgds Dagar |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
This morning my online bank did not allow me to make a payment. I telephoned them to ask why and they told me there had been a phishing attack. I had warned them of this attack and immediately changed my password. This morning they told me to change again the password via telephone and not via Internet because they were afraid I might have a virus on my PC. I told them I was using Linux but had to obey and change again the password via telephone. Then I phoned again the bank and they unblocked my account,so I made the payment. But a Linux user is a kind of white elephant for most banking accounts. Tullio |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
I'm willing to be that the folks you talked to at the bank didnt understand what a linux OS is let alone that it can't be infected by a windows virus. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I'm willing to be that the folks you talked to at the bank didnt understand what a linux OS is let alone that it can't be infected by a windows virus. Yes, sure. They insisted that I made a virus scan and I had to explain them that I had no antivirus on my system. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
Let me guess. they then explained that your system was not secure and blah blah blah you aren't going to get to connect to their site. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Let me guess. they then explained that your system was not secure and blah blah blah you aren't going to get to connect to their site. Yes. And I had to explain them that I am 74 years old and live 15 km away from their office, so they let me in. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20397 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... I had to explain them that I had no antivirus on my system. I bet they were utterly horrified at that in their utter obliviousness :-) A some good Doctor is sure to have said: 'Tis better to cure the disease rather than treat the symptoms. My best advice for remote banking is to use "telephone banking" if you can put up with the robot voice and "press option 1...". That method of access is far far too slow and expensive for the external spammers to hack. (Avoid the human operator call-centre banking also. Error prone, frustrating, and you can get your id details copied...) Good luck, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
I'm willing to be that the folks you talked to at the bank didnt understand what a linux OS is let alone that it can't be infected by a windows virus. The agent at the bank is likely very little more than a phone jockey, working off of a script. They would not know the difference between a phishing attack and a virus, nor do they care, they read the script. Script says "tell the customer to do a virus scan" when a phishing attempt is not a virus. So, you need your own counter-script. When they say "run a virus scan" you say "of course" or "I'm already doing that." These people are not allowed to think. They are required to mindlessly follow the script, even if they know better. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I had to recur to telephone banking to change my password. But my voice was not recognized, so I had to recur to pushing the asterisk symbol and digit my new password on the phone. How much secure this is I do not know but they asked me to do it. I have the habit of telling the truth and this has already cost me a good deal in my life. But my parents taught me so. Sorry and thanks. Tullio |
Josh C78 Send message Joined: 29 May 09 Posts: 14 Credit: 626 RAC: 0 |
In any event, my personal favorite right at the moment is Avast!. It generally gets good reviews for detection performance, and is one of the few remaining that you can use on older systems without bringing them to their knees with a lot of unneeded background overhead and a sluggish UI. I have had just over 16 years experience in both hardware and software tech fields. I have dealt with small to big worms/trojans/malware/spyware/virii, in removal and testing with applications and manually. As far as *my opinions of McAfee and Norton.. They are like a wad of bubblegum in your OS. I have used various antivirus, anti- trojan/spyware/malware/etc applications. My most recent switch was from Comodo to Avast. I have used Avast in the past too. Currently it seems to be working flawlessly on my 64bit OS. Avast seems to accel in preventing website based infections. While using Avast, I have found sites (gray area/hat here :) that i was visiting that were running infectious methods through gif/scripts/etc (many more methods than I thought). Those sites were never detected/prevented while using comodo or avg. Avast prompts immediately to terminate connection to the site, (I am guessing also has a log of harmful sites too, that supercede the browser securities of I.E./Firefox), preventing the site from even displaying if it is unsafe or is a reported attack site. On a fresh install of xp pro x64 avast runs smoothly and seems to be very lightweight. Avast is also catching/preventing a lot of web based infections that others are not, currently. So it's my current choice and reccomendation. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
In any event, my personal favorite right at the moment is Avast!. It generally gets good reviews for detection performance, and is one of the few remaining that you can use on older systems without bringing them to their knees with a lot of unneeded background overhead and a sluggish UI. running spybot with immunization and teatimer on do about the same thing In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20397 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Get yer ANTIVIRUS fix here: Securing the Desktop: Eight Internet Security Suites I run none of that rubbish! No need to and a silly waste to do so. Happy (fast clean) crunchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Aristoteles Doukas Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 1091 Credit: 2,140,913 RAC: 0 |
except that most of viruses etc now, cones through javascript in normal web pages, so it is not related to windows but all computers which allow to use javascript, so beware linux users, there is a new kid an a block.(and it will bully you) |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Use Firefox and add NoScript. Tullio |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65793 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Use Firefox and add NoScript. NoScript will only help one after the fact, Not before You go to a website, Unless You want to stop all scripts from a website before You get there and then You'd be throwing the Baby out with the bath water. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
NoScript blocks all scripts except those coming from sites in your whitelist. So if you go to an unknown site it will ask you for a permission to execute its scripts, one by one. Sometimes it takes ten minutes if you do. Tullio |
Aristoteles Doukas Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 1091 Credit: 2,140,913 RAC: 0 |
yes, but new attacks comes through links, which happen to be whiter than white, they can put their code to innocent web page, and it starts when you just open attacked page. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
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Aristoteles Doukas Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 1091 Credit: 2,140,913 RAC: 0 |
hard to tell what was on those links, i read that on paper, but i suggest that was same kind of thing, fortunately for me i visit only here and then my two accounts of mail and facebook and myspace account, so i really don+´t surf anywhere, so i am quite safe here, and don´t like cold water either, so surfing is out of question, succestion: do not surf, live a life instead. |
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