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Message 869308 - Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 13:05:35 UTC

Wow! The cricket graph isn't maxed out anymore! I just checked at 1300utc and it was down to 87mbit. Still pretty high up there, but not maxed out, which means any connections should go through the first try. Pretty impressive.. the recovery happened a little faster than Matt expected. He was thinking it would begin to settle down toward the end of the day PST, but the sun hasn't even risen there yet.
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Message 869316 - Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 14:12:28 UTC - in response to Message 869308.  
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LOL...

Yep, and they just set a new record for the longest period of sustained max bandwidth since the switch to Hurricane! :-)

Of course, it's a much better user experience with things working more or less correctly again. My hosts didn't seem to care too much either way though. ;-)

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Message 869328 - Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 14:45:23 UTC

Does anyone know why the neither AP_validate is running? They both say "Not Running" Expanation is "Program failed or ran out of work". I don't think they ran out of work.

Also do they pertain to both AP 5.00 and 5.03?

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Message 869386 - Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 17:50:07 UTC
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Don't know why but it seems that Berkeley takes down the AP validators at the first sign of problems.

And since I prefere to crunch AP it really hurts.
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Message 869387 - Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 17:58:26 UTC

looks like the credits aren't getting moved along. I see that I have 26000 more credits on my page yet the stats are still sitting back from a couple days ago.


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Message 869406 - Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 19:29:26 UTC

Had about 6-10 wu's to report, waited for 4 complete days, it reported succesfully. Now my reports are going perfect, up- and downloads are going well now...Good job to the SETI team...bravo!

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Message 869413 - Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 19:49:01 UTC - in response to Message 869328.  

Does anyone know why the neither AP_validate is running? They both say "Not Running" Expanation is "Program failed or ran out of work". I don't think they ran out of work.

They're both back online now ;-)
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Message 869462 - Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 22:23:20 UTC

After nine hours of almost steady decline from peak on the network graph, it pegged somewhat over an hour ago, and has stayed there.

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Message 869478 - Posted: 25 Feb 2009, 23:19:33 UTC


I don't think that everything is working well again..

After every work request I get only 1 new WU..

I hope before the next weekend the WU cache is full again.. ;-)

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Message 869513 - Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 0:47:09 UTC - in response to Message 869413.  

Does anyone know why the neither AP_validate is running? They both say "Not Running" Expanation is "Program failed or ran out of work". I don't think they ran out of work.

They're both back online now ;-)



Have a look at what Matt says here.

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Message 869524 - Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 1:25:50 UTC - in response to Message 869513.  

Does anyone know why the neither AP_validate is running? They both say "Not Running" Explanation is "Program failed or ran out of work". I don't think they ran out of work.

They're both back online now ;-)



Have a look at what Matt says here.

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Message 869968 - Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 7:48:26 UTC - in response to Message 869513.  


Calm before the storm?
Work in progress is pretty much back to normal, however AP Turn Around time is still about 50hrs less than it was at the begining of the month. MB results received in the Last Hour are down, and the Turn Around time is about 20hours higher than it was at the begining of the month.
And the network traffic is now down to 40Mb/s, where as it was generally around 60Mb/s before the Great Storm.

Problems ahead or has the recent spell of longer work settled things down?
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Message 869971 - Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 8:00:06 UTC - in response to Message 869968.  

I can only speculate but,

After the storm, people got their cues filled up, the turnaround time started counting then, so on average the first results should be coming back after that time.

People with other projects as fall back got more WU's for them and are crunching those other projects for now but will get back to S@H when those are done.

My bet is that in a few days time things will get back a "normal" level.
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Message 870203 - Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 23:46:15 UTC - in response to Message 869971.  
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I can only speculate but,

After the storm, people got their cues filled up, the turnaround time started counting then, so on average the first results should be coming back after that time.

People with other projects as fall back got more WU's for them and are crunching those other projects for now but will get back to S@H when those are done.

My bet is that in a few days time things will get back a "normal" level.


Perhaps, the computers that were switched to other stuff,
or turned off, will not be back full duty, to crunching for Seti. ;)
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Message 871431 - Posted: 2 Mar 2009, 20:31:22 UTC

2/28/2009 2:50:36 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 53139 seconds of work, reporting 3 completed tasks
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: No work can be sent for the applications you have selected
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: No work is available for SETI@home Enhanced
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: No work is available for Astropulse

So it sent me a WU and in the same second said it didn't have work? Maybe.
Then it says all in the same second:

2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: You have selected to receive work from other applications if no work is available for the applications you selected
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: Sending work from other applications

Maybe the messages should be made a bit more human readable.

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Message 871437 - Posted: 2 Mar 2009, 20:49:48 UTC - in response to Message 871431.  

2/28/2009 2:50:36 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 53139 seconds of work, reporting 3 completed tasks
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: No work can be sent for the applications you have selected
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: No work is available for SETI@home Enhanced
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: No work is available for Astropulse

So it sent me a WU and in the same second said it didn't have work? Maybe.
Then it says all in the same second:

2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: You have selected to receive work from other applications if no work is available for the applications you selected
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: Sending work from other applications

Maybe the messages should be made a bit more human readable.

How? It told you that it had no work for the two applications you have said on the preferences that you prefer, and it tells you it has sent new work, which was from a third application.

The point of confusion, I think, is that folks don't recognize that Astropulse and Astropulse v5 are two separate applications. But that is not a question of the human readability of the messages.

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Message 871461 - Posted: 2 Mar 2009, 22:04:13 UTC - in response to Message 871437.  

2/28/2009 2:50:36 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 53139 seconds of work, reporting 3 completed tasks
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: No work can be sent for the applications you have selected
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: No work is available for SETI@home Enhanced
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: No work is available for Astropulse

So it sent me a WU and in the same second said it didn't have work? Maybe.
Then it says all in the same second:

2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: You have selected to receive work from other applications if no work is available for the applications you selected
2/28/2009 2:50:41 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: Sending work from other applications

Maybe the messages should be made a bit more human readable.

How? It told you that it had no work for the two applications you have said on the preferences that you prefer, and it tells you it has sent new work, which was from a third application.

The point of confusion, I think, is that folks don't recognize that Astropulse and Astropulse v5 are two separate applications. But that is not a question of the human readability of the messages.

Well, if folks read it and folks don't understand it, that meets my definition of human readability (failed). The onus is on the communicator to transfer the information to the communicatee.

@ Gary,

Have a revisit with your SETI@home preferences page. You may not be aware that there's a third 'opt-in' option for the new "Astropulse v5" application that archae86 mentions, and it may not be set the way you want.
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Message 872606 - Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 20:01:09 UTC

The "ap_validate2" indicates "Not Running". AP "waiting for validation" is growing.
Seems to be cropping up occasionally lately. Has been this way for a while.
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Message 872615 - Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 20:31:05 UTC - in response to Message 872606.  

The "ap_validate2" indicates "Not Running". AP "waiting for validation" is growing.
Seems to be cropping up occasionally lately. Has been this way for a while.

Yes - Matt wrote about it in Mono (Feb 25 2009).
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Message 872620 - Posted: 5 Mar 2009, 21:03:21 UTC - in response to Message 872615.  

Yes he wrote about it, but if it was working correctly the waiting for validation shouldn't be increasing.
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