I second that.

There is plenty of reason. The gov't has no right, nor any philosophical reason, to determine for individuals what they will choose to put into their body or not.

The law doesn't prevent people from smoking pot. They smoke it anyway. A tiny tiny tiny tiny fraction of people, once in a blue moon, get punished for it.

if you live in society, you obey the rules which are put together by coverment which is normally elected by people, if you don´t obey, move to remote island.

if you live in society, you obey the rules which are put together by coverment which is normally elected by people, if you don´t obey, move to remote island.

My island remote

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if you live in society, you obey the rules which are put together by coverment which is normally elected by people, if you don´t obey, move to remote island.

My island remote

i want that too

if you live in society, you obey the rules which are put together by coverment which is normally elected by people, if you don´t obey, move to remote island.

I always have a problem with that argument because not very long ago the law stated that women, blacks, indians and those who were not landowners could not vote.
If everyone who disagreed with the laws of the land went to this remote island instead of speaking against unjust laws, nothing would have changed...except the population.

if you live in society, you obey the rules which are put together by coverment which is normally elected by people, if you don´t obey, move to remote island.

I always have a problem with that argument because not very long ago the law stated that women, blacks, indians and those who were not landowners could not vote.
If everyone who disagreed with the laws of the land went to this remote island instead of speaking against unjust laws, nothing would have changed...except the population.

Thank you Robert for the best explanation, and I agree with you.

As times change, so should the laws.
When the cars were first indroduced on public roads, I bet that people opposed them. "That autonomous machine has no eyes and no mind. It will drive over people, it will kill us!!"
Sometimes change is good. Isn't that what Obama promised? "Change"? Apparently, a lot of people want that.

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if you live in society, you obey the rules which are put together by coverment which is normally elected by people, if you don´t obey, move to remote island.

I always have a problem with that argument because not very long ago the law stated that women, blacks, indians and those who were not landowners could not vote.
If everyone who disagreed with the laws of the land went to this remote island instead of speaking against unjust laws, nothing would have changed...except the population.

we live in democratic society, so if we want, we can change any law, so that is not excuse to break them.

In theory because we live in a democracy we provide the power base for our government; so if we don't like our government it is our fault. Sadly, we have very little control of our government because we slowly gave them more and more power, and because of citizen apathy. We've given the government more and more authority so we can have a more equal and secure country, and now we can't get any freedom back.
“A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.”--Gerald R. Ford

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“I do not agree with a word that you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”

I also haven't seen a response from Agent420 about my brother's situation where EVERY single physician/therapist has been quoted in the record as saying use of Marijuana has contributed to his difficulties. Even when he doesn't drink, his behavior is erratic based on Marijuana use alone.

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i live quite happily in finland, except the climate.
check again the health problems that you get from cannabis.

tobacco and alcohol cause more health problems then cannabis and they are legal.
but we are not talking about the risk, we are talking about rescheduling and decriminalization. what someone does or put's in to their own body should not be controlled by the government.

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“I do not agree with a word that you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”

tobacco and alcohol cause more health problems then cannabis and they are legal.
but we are not talking about the risk, we are talking about rescheduling and decriminalization. what someone does or put's in to their own body should not be controlled by the government.

I know people who smoke their wacky tobaccy all the time and they are very functional...I also know a few who are screw-ups.
I don't blame the wacky for their screwing up. That's just the way they have always been.

I've known men who have killed themselves by drinking too much. They couldn't stop themselves and none of us could convince them to stop either.

Myself, I'm a tobacco addict. I've been chewing spit tobacco for almost 30 years and have tried to quit a hundred times. I guess I must enjoy spitting.
Good thing I work outdoors year round.
My point is, we all know someone who has died due to tobacco use.

I agree with Agent420 when he/or/she says alcohol and tobacco cause more health problems.
As far as human vices go, cannabis is not one of the worst.

i live quite happily in finland, except the climate.
check again the health problems that you get from cannabis.

Better yet why don't You check on "the health problems" one gets from cannabis use, and report back to us. You might be surprised!

On a second note, if you're happy, then stop whining about people not
obeying the rules. You sound like a broken record.

it is simple, either we obey the rules, or there are no rules, and don´t whine afterwards that you did not meant that. no rules would be perfect to me
your knowledge about cannabis and health happen to be outdated, cannabis causes
20 times the risk to get cancer, read more recent researches

I also haven't seen a response from Agent420 about my brother's situation where EVERY single physician/therapist has been quoted in the record as saying use of Marijuana has contributed to his difficulties. Even when he doesn't drink, his behavior is erratic based on Marijuana use alone.

the problem is that some people and it sounds like your brother is among them have an addictive personality. it's not that they crave any one thing in particular it's that they crave anything that will give them that feeling. it could be booze, heroin, mj or even just the adrenalin rush of "extreme" sports but whatever it is they fix on they have to have more of it.

in the grand scheme of things while there are no shortage of drugs out there mj is fairly mild and from what i've read is considerably less damaging to its users than booze is over time. it's certainly less damaging to society than booze is yet booze is almost as freely available as soda pop. our ideas of what is reasonable need to be taken out, dusted off and seriously re-examined.

I do not smoke or drink. I saw the problems caused by additive drugs while I volunteered at a local drug re-hab. Alcohol was the number one drug. I see the problems caused by the drug laws. I belive these problems out weigh the problems caused by the drugs. The violence is unacceptable. Taxing and regulating will best serve the Country. I know this is unpopular, but terrorist are now using drug money to finance their evil.

fine, but why people want to mess their brain in first place

fine, but why people want to mess their brain in first place

I do not believe it is the job of the government to protect us from ourselves. If someone wants to smoke that s their personal choice. For instance, some people choose to drink while others do not. Legalizing would also cut off drug money that would have gone into the pockets of dangerous gangs. This happened before when prohibition was repealed. Crime went way down.

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I don't think the gov't is protecting me from myself but It is protecting me from you. The idea that pot restrictions are a "hit" on personal liberties is really "whackie".

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

Newt Gingrich was on the ABC Sunday show and he said that Mexico is in a true war with the drug cartels. He said it is a real dangerous situation that could spill into our country. As long as drugs are illegal, loads of money will flow directly to ruthless people. Also, we will have to pay for police forces to fight illegal activity. To me it makes more sense economically to just legalize the stuff. Make it into a legitimate death industry just like alcohol and tobacco. In bad economic times like these the drug industry would thrive and be a great place for legitimate investors to make a killing.

Maybe Obama will do as FDR did with alcohol and legalize pot. We all complain about the war in Iraq, but the war on drugs is truely in our back yards.