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Message 822540 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 4:50:48 UTC - in response to Message 822536.  
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[quote]Nope---Radical Muslims NEVER go abroad to hurt people or hide...

The American Conservative-2003 (older but still relevant)



that writer mixed on purpose the fact that Islam is not fastest growing religion, in Europe, people move here to work and cause they mostly come
countries like turkey, or north Africa, they are "Muslims", that does not mean that people are converting Muslims, and Turkish people or north Africa people don´t follow muslim rules as a rule, some does most not, i don´t like how last days these pages have turn to be anti-muslim pages, we are still people in one globe which barely support all, so we are better start to act like humans should or if E.T comes here, he finds barren world, and no sign of intelligence,
and if i am speaking truth, would not find it even today

I believe Blurf is not talking about peaceful Muslims, Turks just want to live as other Europeans do, In peace, Those from North Africa have some among them Who take the Koran way too seriously and who want nothing to do with assimilation, Only conquest and a return to 7th Century Islam, And that ain't going to happen.



they could say you take your way of living too seriously

So what...

Byte My ass. :p
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Message 822592 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 7:20:10 UTC

these pages are occupied these days by war mongers. which is sad,
try to learn compassion, tolerance to accept different people and
not to put down other people who happen have different skin color, different
religion, or no religion at all.
( and no, "they started it", "they first", start from you)
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Message 822605 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 8:11:35 UTC - in response to Message 822592.  

these pages are occupied these days by war mongers. which is sad,
try to learn compassion, tolerance to accept different people and
not to put down other people who happen have different skin color, different
religion, or no religion at all.
(and no, "they started it", "they first", start from you)

Hopefully You don't mean Me as I'm not a "War monger", A good defense means being prepared as best as possible for any possible War, It doesn't mean one wants to fight one as the US Military isn't a bunch of "War mongers", Their loyalty is sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States, The US has never been a Colonial power, Colonies are something populated with Settlements from a Home country, We do have territories, But none have settlements in them, Can any US Citizen live in a Territory? Yep, No restrictions beyond getting a passport.
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Message 822753 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 16:19:08 UTC - in response to Message 822605.  

Hopefully You don't mean Me as I'm not a "War monger"

Warmonger...

Militarist...

Fanatic...

Well, that just about covers it... ;)
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Message 822766 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 16:27:17 UTC - in response to Message 822753.  


Well, that just about covers it... ;)



Except for this one...

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Message 822793 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 16:59:20 UTC - in response to Message 822766.  

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Beating your own citizens into submission is not patriotism... ;)

(And it has NOTHING to do with the topic of THIS thread!)
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Message 822797 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 17:10:51 UTC - in response to Message 822793.  

Good point. But from what I heard on Fox news if you have a flag on your shirt you are a patriot and if you do not you are evil.... scum....

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(And it has NOTHING to do with the topic of THIS thread!)


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Message 822811 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 17:41:38 UTC - in response to Message 822753.  
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Hopefully You don't mean Me as I'm not a "War monger"

Warmonger...

Militarist...

Fanatic...

Well, that just about covers it... ;)

Well excuse Me, For having been a volunteer member of the US Army at one time, Just like My Dad and My Uncle and another ancestor before them:p, It doesn't make Me any of what You quoted, It does make Me someone who supports the US Military and last I looked It's not a crime or a criminal offense. But of course Sedition is a crime/criminal offense, Of course I don't know of anybody that has been convicted with that crime as I'm not in the Legal Industry and so I can't comment on what I don't know.
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Message 822849 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 20:17:52 UTC - in response to Message 821123.  
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Jeffery--there's been Taliban videos specifically from Obama Bin Laden admitting directly that they did the 9/11 bombings---how can you not believe that??


If you refer to the "Jalalabad Tape", it has been identified as a fake on multiple accounts (no credibility as of its supposed point of origin, person shown is not Osama, person acting as Osama yields details that do not match known intelligence about him).

Months after the attacks, Osama Bin Laden made a clear statement that he - although welcoming the attack - had no involvement in it himself. Typically for these times, this statement did not make first page news.

It wasn't the only fake news story found within the last years, these heva been placed into the news media since a long time.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153541,00.html
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0217/p01s01-uspo.html
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What I tell anyone still believing it was 19 Terrorists guided and supported by Osama Bin Laden who hijacked full airliners to crash them :

Believe means nothing (not worth a penny in the truest sense possible) in these matters, knowledge is everything.

There are more details piecing together the puzzle than would possibly fit this Forum, but all Information is (as of now) still freely available. The only ressource one has to put in is time and the honest determination to go wherever the questions lead to (latter appears to be the most significant problem for many)

If I had to describe global politics of the last ~50 years in one sentence, here's how it would look like :
In this modern world, things usually are not as they seem, and specifically often not how we are told they are.

Solution :
Research like a scientist, free of dogma or ideology, just seek the truth to your best ability. Be prepared though : the deeper you dig, the more dirty it gets.
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Message 822851 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 20:28:43 UTC - in response to Message 822412.  

I'd be happy to leave the Muslims alone.

Here's an 'off the wall' thought: GET OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY... ;)

(But YOU can't do that because YOU are arrogant and YOU are needy of their OIL!)


I suspect we will get out of their country as soon as they are able to stand on thier own security wise.
As far as Oil goes ROFL we need Russian oil also hehe, Until the world finds a cleaner cheaper longer lasting source of energy we are always going to need their oil. I don't see the Saudis complaining while they rake in all the worlds cash, Speaking of which the Arab nations as a whole control most of the worlds oil base so why do they still live in mud houses? Maybe they never heard of taking care of their own with all that money. Am I'm not talking about the few who hoard all the oil revenues.
Most of their problems are caused by lack of basics we take for granted. Hopeless people have no problem flocking to religion and blowing themselves up in the name of God when they have nothing else to lose or look forward to. But thats further off topic.
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Message 822856 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 20:38:44 UTC - in response to Message 822851.  

Heres the real question for you that's not been answered. How does suicide bombing innocent women and children, fellow Muslims by the way doing Gods work? Sounds like some of those Muslim freedom fighters are SOL on the 72 virgins thing LOL.

Muslim fundamentalists believe that a "martyr" (shaheed) who dies while fighting in the holy war against the infidels (jihad) goes to paradise where he is given 72 beautiful virgins for wives plus a number of never aging boys for slaves (apparently, pedophilia is allowed in paradise as well as slavery and polygamy). This is the eternal bliss that the suicidal Islamic terrorists crave. In an interesting twist, if a woman dies as a martyr, she is rewarded with only one husband since women are supposed to stay monogamous even in heaven -- according to the same Islamic doctrine.
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Message 822861 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 21:03:43 UTC - in response to Message 822856.  
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Here's the real question for you that's not been answered. How does suicide bombing innocent women and children, fellow Muslims by the way doing Gods work? Sounds like some of those Muslim freedom fighters are SOL on the 72 virgins thing LOL.

Muslim fundamentalists believe that a "martyr" (shaheed) who dies while fighting in the holy war against the infidels (jihad) goes to paradise where he is given 72 beautiful virgins for wives plus a number of never aging boys for slaves (apparently, pedophilia is allowed in paradise as well as slavery and polygamy). This is the eternal bliss that the suicidal Islamic terrorists crave. In an interesting twist, if a woman dies as a martyr, she is rewarded with only one husband since women are supposed to stay monogamous even in heaven -- according to the same Islamic doctrine.

So much for being equal, Besides who'd want 72 women? Polygamy's illegal here and I'd think 1 Woman would be enough for any man. But as to suicide bombers, Well It seems to Me everytime they have a Woman blow themselves up instead of a stooge(sucker), They lose followers and they won't be having quite so many babies, As a suicide bomber is a one time thing, If It wasn't for Western Medicine the Islamic population would actually be declining faster than It is now as the women now just don't feel like having a population boom when their being held back, It's no wonder they blow themselves up. And as to Islamic clothing for people, Many places are not suitable for that as One would either be over dressed(Nudists, etc) or Under dressed(too dang cold, Like nearer to the Poles(North and South Poles)), But then Who ever heard of an openly Nude Muslim? (I don't think they want to come out of the woodwork, Fear of death seems to have something to do with that), Here We don't have a Religious police, In one country they do and they've even arrested non-Muslims I've read from time to time, You'd think they'd know a non-Muslim from a Muslim, Guess they can't easily do that all the time. Oh and Muslim Women at the Beach? They either look like their overdressed or in a wetsuit from head to ankles at the very least, They better not go in the water as Great White Sharks are looking for something that looks like a Seal to them to eat and that suit looks like It fits the bill, Almost to a T(Sharks aren't too bright so If It looks like something they're used to eating they may eat It and have done so and It ain't a pretty sight).
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Message 822870 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 21:33:21 UTC - in response to Message 822861.  

72 questions about the 72 Virgins LOL :)

1) What if the bomber wants girls with more experience?
2) What if one virgin is no good in bed? Does she get replaced or is he stuck with 71?
3) If he's gay, does he get male virgins?
4) What if he's celibate? What does he get?
5) What if he hasn't reached puberty yet? Does he get 72 Xboxes till he comes of age?
6) If he's bi, does he get 36 of each?
7) If he blows himself up while building the bomb, does he still get credit?
8) What do you call a relationship with 72 women, a menage-a-soixante-douze?
9) Are they like 72 wives or 1 wife and 71 concubines?
10) What if he's ugly or smells bad and the virgins don't want anything to do with him?
11) Is there viagra in paradise? Ya know, just in case?
12) Is there an age of consent?
13) When they're deflowered, do they get replaced by new virgins or are they "born again"?
14) Do they become his common-law wives eventually?
15) If he has a tryst with a 73rd virgin, do the others consider it cheating?
16) Do the virgins have a union? If so, can they strike if they're not satisfied?
17) Is there a temp agency that replaces virgins if they call in sick?
18) What if the bomber's into animals? Does he get accommodated?
19) Why 72? Is 71 too few? Is 73 too many?
20) If it was a female bomber, how do the male virgins prove their virginity?
21) What happens when paradise runs out of virgins?
22) Can a bomber make reservations on specific virgins before he blows himself up?
23) If there are no virgins available, is he put on a waiting list?
24) If he's a catholic priest, does he get 72 little boys?
25) Would you call a female bomber a bombshell?
26) Would you call a child bomber a bombino?
27) Is it not 73 out of respect for Barry Bond's home run record?
28) If the bomber previously dated one of the virgins, does it get awkward?
29) Do they have a bomb squad in paradise just in case one of the charges didn't go off?
30) Did they start using female bombers because they ran out of virgins for the guys?
31) If she's a lesbian, do they "convert" the virgins, or will straight girls suffice her?
32) Does a hermaphrodite bomber get hermaphrodite virgins?
33) If so, are there 72 available?
34) If they run out of virgins, do they get inflatable dolls till they find more?
35) If a bomber finds an infidel in paradise, can he blow him up and get 72 more virgins?
36) Could the Koran have had a typo and it actually provided just one 72 year old virgin?
37) Is Muslim hell being one of the 72 virgins?
38) Instead of 72 guys, would a female bomber settle for 1 man who does dishes and garbage?
39) Do the bombers go broke on Valentine's Day?
40) If he's monogamous, does he pick one of the 72 or does he get a supermodel?
41) What if he doesn't like either gender? Does he just klutz around in paradise?
42) Eternity is long, and eventually he'll grow bored of his 72 women. What happens then?
43) How does he pick the 72 to begin with? Lottery? Beauty pageant? Police lineup?
44) Is he allowed to covet his neighbor's virgins?
45) Do the virgins have agents and/or contracts?
46) If so, can a virgin request to be traded or put on waivers if she's unhappy?
47) What should he say if one of the virgins asks "Does this Burka make me look fat?"
48) If he gives the wrong answer, is he uh, screwed?
49) How is anyone expected to handle a catfight amongst 72 women?
50) Did the 9/11 hijackers who didn't know they were going to die get 72 virgins too?
51) Are scouts employed to find virgin talent?
52) Do the virgins ever retire, or do they remain virgins forever?
53) If they retire, what kind of pension plan do they get?
54) Wouldn't it be interesting if they're virgins because they're ugly?
55) So is it 72 Muslim girls or like 1 virgin from every culture?
56) Wouldn't it be sweet if Lorena Bobbit got hired as one of the virgins?
57) What does Gloria Steinem have to say about all this?
58) When he gets home, does he have to say "How was your day?" to all 72 virgins?
59) Do they have counseling for sexual addiction in paradise?
60) If the virgins start hogging the remote, is he in hell?
61) They must take up an entire theater when they go to the movies, huh?
62) Are there restaurants in paradise that can accommodate a reservation for 73?
63) If a virgin suffers from multiple personalities, is she considered two virgins?
64) Does he get all the virgins at once, or do they have an installment plan?
65) Is the bomber entitled to subsitutes, exchanges, or refunds?
66) What if all the king's horses and all the king's men can't put the bomber together again?
67) Is "not tonight, dear, I have a headache" a valid excuse in paradise?
68) Do the virgins come with a warranty?
69) If so, does paradise replace defective parts and provide on-site service?
70) What do you call a lifetime warranty if you're dead?
71) Do siamese twin bombers get 144 virgins?
72) Who gets to clean up all those nasty sheets?
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Message 822873 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 21:39:24 UTC - in response to Message 822861.  

Here's the real question for you that's not been answered. How does suicide bombing innocent women and children, fellow Muslims by the way doing Gods work? Sounds like some of those Muslim freedom fighters are SOL on the 72 virgins thing LOL.

Muslim fundamentalists believe that a "martyr" (shaheed) who dies while fighting in the holy war against the infidels (jihad) goes to paradise where he is given 72 beautiful virgins for wives plus a number of never aging boys for slaves (apparently, pedophilia is allowed in paradise as well as slavery and polygamy). This is the eternal bliss that the suicidal Islamic terrorists crave. In an interesting twist, if a woman dies as a martyr, she is rewarded with only one husband since women are supposed to stay monogamous even in heaven -- according to the same Islamic doctrine.

So much for being equal, Besides who'd want 72 women? Polygamy's illegal here and I'd think 1 Woman would be enough for any man. But as to suicide bombers, Well It seems to Me everytime they have a Woman blow themselves up instead of a stooge(sucker), They lose followers and they won't be having quite so many babies, As a suicide bomber is a one time thing, If It wasn't for Western Medicine the Islamic population would actually be declining faster than It is now as the women now just don't feel like having a population boom when their being held back, It's no wonder they blow themselves up. And as to Islamic clothing for people, Many places are not suitable for that as One would either be over dressed(Nudists, etc) or Under dressed(too dang cold, Like nearer to the Poles(North and South Poles)), But then Who ever heard of an openly Nude Muslim? (I don't think they want to come out of the woodwork, Fear of death seems to have something to do with that), Here We don't have a Religious police, In one country they do and they've even arrested non-Muslims I've read from time to time, You'd think they'd know a non-Muslim from a Muslim, Guess they can't easily do that all the time. Oh and Muslim Women at the Beach? They either look like their overdressed or in a wetsuit from head to ankles at the very least, They better not go in the water as Great White Sharks are looking for something that looks like a Seal to them to eat and that suit looks like It fits the bill, Almost to a T(Sharks aren't too bright so If It looks like something they're used to eating they may eat It and have done so and It ain't a pretty sight).


In most of the muslim middle east there is no word called equal when your referring to women there considered property.
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Message 822888 - Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 22:34:58 UTC - in response to Message 822870.  
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72 questions about the 72 Virgins LOL :)

1) What if the bomber wants girls with more experience?
2) What if one virgin is no good in bed? Does she get replaced or is he stuck with 71?
3) If he's gay, does he get male virgins?
4) What if he's celibate? What does he get?
5) What if he hasn't reached puberty yet? Does he get 72 Xboxes till he comes of age?
6) If he's bi, does he get 36 of each?
7) If he blows himself up while building the bomb, does he still get credit?
8) What do you call a relationship with 72 women, a menage-a-soixante-douze?
9) Are they like 72 wives or 1 wife and 71 concubines?
10) What if he's ugly or smells bad and the virgins don't want anything to do with him?
11) Is there viagra in paradise? Ya know, just in case?
12) Is there an age of consent?
13) When they're deflowered, do they get replaced by new virgins or are they "born again"?
14) Do they become his common-law wives eventually?
15) If he has a tryst with a 73rd virgin, do the others consider it cheating?
16) Do the virgins have a union? If so, can they strike if they're not satisfied?
17) Is there a temp agency that replaces virgins if they call in sick?
18) What if the bomber's into animals? Does he get accommodated?
19) Why 72? Is 71 too few? Is 73 too many?
20) If it was a female bomber, how do the male virgins prove their virginity?
21) What happens when paradise runs out of virgins?
22) Can a bomber make reservations on specific virgins before he blows himself up?
23) If there are no virgins available, is he put on a waiting list?
24) If he's a catholic priest, does he get 72 little boys?
25) Would you call a female bomber a bombshell?
26) Would you call a child bomber a bombino?
27) Is it not 73 out of respect for Barry Bond's home run record?
28) If the bomber previously dated one of the virgins, does it get awkward?
29) Do they have a bomb squad in paradise just in case one of the charges didn't go off?
30) Did they start using female bombers because they ran out of virgins for the guys?
31) If she's a lesbian, do they "convert" the virgins, or will straight girls suffice her?
32) Does a hermaphrodite bomber get hermaphrodite virgins?
33) If so, are there 72 available?
34) If they run out of virgins, do they get inflatable dolls till they find more?
35) If a bomber finds an infidel in paradise, can he blow him up and get 72 more virgins?
36) Could the Koran have had a typo and it actually provided just one 72 year old virgin?
37) Is Muslim hell being one of the 72 virgins?
38) Instead of 72 guys, would a female bomber settle for 1 man who does dishes and garbage?
39) Do the bombers go broke on Valentine's Day?
40) If he's monogamous, does he pick one of the 72 or does he get a supermodel?
41) What if he doesn't like either gender? Does he just klutz around in paradise?
42) Eternity is long, and eventually he'll grow bored of his 72 women. What happens then?
43) How does he pick the 72 to begin with? Lottery? Beauty pageant? Police lineup?
44) Is he allowed to covet his neighbor's virgins?
45) Do the virgins have agents and/or contracts?
46) If so, can a virgin request to be traded or put on waivers if she's unhappy?
47) What should he say if one of the virgins asks "Does this Burka make me look fat?"
48) If he gives the wrong answer, is he uh, screwed?
49) How is anyone expected to handle a catfight amongst 72 women?
50) Did the 9/11 hijackers who didn't know they were going to die get 72 virgins too?
51) Are scouts employed to find virgin talent?
52) Do the virgins ever retire, or do they remain virgins forever?
53) If they retire, what kind of pension plan do they get?
54) Wouldn't it be interesting if they're virgins because they're ugly?
55) So is it 72 Muslim girls or like 1 virgin from every culture?
56) Wouldn't it be sweet if Lorena Bobbit got hired as one of the virgins?
57) What does Gloria Steinem have to say about all this?
58) When he gets home, does he have to say "How was your day?" to all 72 virgins?
59) Do they have counseling for sexual addiction in paradise?
60) If the virgins start hogging the remote, is he in hell?
61) They must take up an entire theater when they go to the movies, huh?
62) Are there restaurants in paradise that can accommodate a reservation for 73?
63) If a virgin suffers from multiple personalities, is she considered two virgins?
64) Does he get all the virgins at once, or do they have an installment plan?
65) Is the bomber entitled to subsitutes, exchanges, or refunds?
66) What if all the king's horses and all the king's men can't put the bomber together again?
67) Is "not tonight, dear, I have a headache" a valid excuse in paradise?
68) Do the virgins come with a warranty?
69) If so, does paradise replace defective parts and provide on-site service?
70) What do you call a lifetime warranty if you're dead?
71) Do siamese twin bombers get 144 virgins?
72) Who gets to clean up all those nasty sheets?


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Message 822928 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 0:44:56 UTC

As my auntie used to say: " People have no couth "... ;)
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Message 822934 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 1:04:27 UTC - in response to Message 822928.  

As my auntie used to say: " People have no couth "... ;)


I prefer to be uncouth LOL as my handle implies :P Sophistication is overrated.

Na Fuzzy but somebody had to take his/her place on the boards :).
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Message 822947 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 1:46:16 UTC - in response to Message 822934.  

As my auntie used to say: " People have no couth "... ;)


I prefer to be uncouth LOL as my handle implies :P Sophistication is overrated.

Na Fuzzy but somebody had to take his/her place on the boards :).


LOL Parasite, you sure fill his shoes well. NA, I don't agree with you, your couth is showing well! LMAO


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Message 822991 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 4:07:47 UTC - in response to Message 822947.  

As my auntie used to say: " People have no couth "... ;)


I prefer to be uncouth LOL as my handle implies :P Sophistication is overrated.

Na Fuzzy but somebody had to take his/her place on the boards :).


LOL Parasite, you sure fill his shoes well. NA, I don't agree with you, your couth is showing well! LMAO


Parasites Vigin List was quite good, Real work of art too. :)
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Message 823159 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 14:42:03 UTC
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As I have stated numerous times, which I now again will reiterate, I don't mind Muslims as long as they don't mind me believing in what I believe in. What I do mind are Islamists who want to kill me for not being a Muslim!

As for our troops in Basra and Helmand, I also want them home as soon as possible. Why should more of my fine young fellow countrymen come home in body bags because the people, they have been placed there to protect, are killing them, because they don't want democracy in their countries?
"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

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