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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Task ID 945888297 Hi, followed this thread and think, that this is probably also a way to 'see', how the AP units 'behave'and if there are errors, wich kind are they and differences in validating can also be ajusted, but 'they' need to have some valid results, with a credit claim[/] to get the [i]validators to work OK. I do hope, that they get validated, I do have completed 7 off them, considering 24 hours to complete, means, on a QUAD, 2 day's and 7 x 720= 5040 credits, 2520 a day. That is quite common, compaired by SETI MB without OptiApp. ![]() |
Dave ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Aug 08 Posts: 16 Credit: 622,564 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Looks like you got bitten by the same bug as me, I lost an AP unit as well when it was suspended. Update 3: 109:00 hours running 38.855% progress complete 118:26 left to completion |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 6 Apr 99 Posts: 921 Credit: 21,935,817 RAC: 3 ![]() |
Looks like you got bitten by the same bug as me, I lost an AP unit as well when it was suspended. Okay... I don't see how the numbers are changing... it's going to take you ~300 CPU hours to complete. About 6 more days... post every day if you wish, but this is the fact and we have already been there... Astropulse underclaims credits and does not estimate the correct CPU time. Welcome to the club! Good night, JDWhale |
Dave ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Aug 08 Posts: 16 Credit: 622,564 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Looks like you got bitten by the same bug as me, I lost an AP unit as well when it was suspended. Update 4: Halfway point? 112:43 hours running 41.730% progress complete 112:43 left to completion We don't need to be a math major to know 42% in not half. I will presume that the early crunching is more processor intensive. I have noticed that the completion time is finally starting to drop 1 second for every 1 CPU second. Early on, the completion time would not budge for 10 CPU seconds, and sometimes actually go backwards. Heck of a club we joined eh. Dave |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Aug 99 Posts: 962 Credit: 537,293 RAC: 9 ![]() |
... BoincLogX can give you a more accurate estimate. There has been much discussion of this issue on the "Message boards : AstroPulse" forum at SETI Beta ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Jan 06 Posts: 1145 Credit: 3,936,993 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Update 4: I've done a couple of AP now. running it along side other SETI and Einstein work units it took about 108 actual hours and a CPU time (sec) 236,455.40 throttled at 75% cpu time. The other one I ran buy itself and took about 60 actual hours and had a CPU time (sec) 209,267.00 100% cpu time. In both units the time was always running down, just slower at different times and they were both quoted in about the 37 hour range. I was told to expect double which I assumed meant the cpu time and not the actual time, so it ran about what was expected as far as I can see. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 27 Aug 06 Posts: 835 Credit: 2,129,006 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Okay, i've turned the over clock off and going to try astro at stock speed, have just got some so let see. ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 21 Mar 01 Posts: 63 Credit: 128,919,333 RAC: 82 ![]() ![]() |
The requirements for Astropulse are supposed to be a 1.6ghz cpu minimum. One was sent to my old Compaq Pentium III 1ghz laptop and several were sent to a dual Pentium III 1.1ghz machine. The laptop crunched about 60 hours and was 4 percent complete when I cancelled it. I just downloaded the latest BOINC to see if I can deselect Astro. Bob B. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 27 Aug 06 Posts: 835 Credit: 2,129,006 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Well the strangest thing just happened. Leaving them in memory doesn't stop the errors on Mac's. I had seven tasks Ap tasks running. I have had to restart the machine. Now six stopped with compute errors, yet the seventh is still going strong as I type this. Although dotsch has done a great job getting a Mac app that can work, I don't think those of us with macs should be running Ap until the project release an official app. ![]() |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19666 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
The requirements for Astropulse are supposed to be a 1.6ghz cpu minimum. One was sent to my old Compaq Pentium III 1ghz laptop and several were sent to a dual Pentium III 1.1ghz machine. The laptop crunched about 60 hours and was 4 percent complete when I cancelled it. I just downloaded the latest BOINC to see if I can deselect Astro. The option to deselect AP is on your Account page under Seti@Home preferences. There is no need to change/upgrade BOINC. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 27 Aug 06 Posts: 835 Credit: 2,129,006 RAC: 0 ![]() |
<core_client_version>6.2.18</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> process exited with code 193 (0xc1, -63) </message> <stderr_txt> In ap_gfx_main.cpp: in ap_graphics_init(): Starting client. In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 896 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1024 In ap_gfx_main.cpp: in ap_graphics_init(): Starting client. In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1024 In ap_gfx_main.cpp: in ap_graphics_init(): Starting client. In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1024 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1152 In ap_gfx_main.cpp: in ap_graphics_init(): Starting client. In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1152 In ap_gfx_main.cpp: in ap_graphics_init(): Starting client. In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1152 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1280 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1408 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1536 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1664 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1792 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1920 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 2048 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 2176 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 2304 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 2432 In ap_gfx_main.cpp: in ap_graphics_init(): Starting client. terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' what(): St9bad_alloc SIGABRT: abort called Crashed executable name: astropulse_4.35_i686-apple-darwin Machine type Intel 80486 (32-bit executable) System version: Macintosh OS 10.5.4 build 9E17 Mon Aug 25 22:50:02 2008 sh: /usr/bin/atos: No such file or directory 0 0x0004e931 1 0x00042f12 2 0x95a6a09b 3 0xffffffff 4 0x95ae2ec2 5 0x95af247f 6 0x92bc1005 7 0x92bbf10c 8 0x92bbf14b 9 0x92bbf261 10 0x92bbf5d8 11 0x00026fe3 12 0x00028837 13 0x0002bd55 14 0x0002cf49 15 0x000185bf 16 0x0003a9f4 17 0x00037e76 18 0x00031421 19 0x00034768 20 0x00002736 Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit): eax: 0xffffffe1 ebx: 0x95a31e62 ecx: 0xbfffd2ac edx: 0x959fd4a6 edi: 0x00000000 esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xbfffd2e8 esp: 0xbfffd2ac ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00000206 eip: 0x959fd4a6 cs: 0x00000007 ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037 Binary Images Description: 0x1000 - 0xeafff /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/slots/2/../../projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/astropulse_4.35_i686-apple-darwin 0x9126d000 - 0x91271fff /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib 0x92b79000 - 0x92bd6fff /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib 0x93b78000 - 0x93b7ffff /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib 0x959fc000 - 0x95b5cfff /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib Exiting... </stderr_txt> ]]> Just wasted another 6 hours of CPU time ![]() |
Dave ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Aug 08 Posts: 16 Credit: 622,564 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Looks like you got bitten by the same bug as me, I lost an AP unit as well when it was suspended. Update 5: Ok we are over halfway there! 126:12 hours running 50.470% progress complete 92.41 left to go Completion time is definitely speeding up, and I am still crunching on my other CPU. Interesting posts about the MACS. Sounds like I would wait it out too if I used one for crunching AP's. Then again, mine is not finished either. |
Dave ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Aug 08 Posts: 16 Credit: 622,564 RAC: 0 ![]() |
[quote]Looks like you got bitten by the same bug as me, I lost an AP unit as well when it was suspended. Update 5: Ok we are over halfway there! 126:12 hours running 50.470% progress complete 92.41 left to go Completion time is definitely speeding up, and I am still crunching on my other CPU. Interesting posts about the MACS. Sounds like I would wait it out too if I used one for crunching AP's. Then again, mine is not finished either. Last update: CRASH and BURN 8/26/2008 2:23:06 PM|SETI@home|Task ap_06fe08ac_B0_P1_00324_20080813_29361.wu_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file 8/26/2008 2:23:06 PM|SETI@home|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project. 8/26/2008 2:23:06 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task ap_06fe08ac_B0_P1_00324_20080813_29361.wu_0 using astropulse version 435 143:16 hours running 1.852% progress complete 244:38 left to go Not sure what happened guys, but I won't continue to use this PC for AP's at this rate. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I wondered, after the third ERROR MESSAGE FROM MICROSOFT, stating that the x86 APx86 xxxxx client, has to be shut down, why there' s a X64 version for LINUX, but NOT for Windows. Since a run WIN XP64 on that host. Win XP64, has a 32BIT subsystem, wich works OK. Maybe 1 x86 and 1 X64 app. is a bad combination for WIN XP64. I NEVER saw these error's, before. Since yesterday I lost a few AP WU's, after 1 till 28 hours, after erroring out, kind off a waist off time. AP WU ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0 ![]() |
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![]() Send message Joined: 24 Feb 00 Posts: 2 Credit: 50,152 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Any ideas as to why this AP unit died? 311871013 When it died my computer said it was low on virtual memory. Thanks ![]() |
Arm Send message Joined: 12 Sep 03 Posts: 308 Credit: 15,584,777 RAC: 0 |
<core_client_version>5.10.39</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> process exited with code 193 (0xc1, -63) </message> <stderr_txt> Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: fraction_done_update_period Skipping: 1.000000 Skipping: /fraction_done_update_period In ap_gfx_main.cpp: in ap_graphics_init(): Starting client. Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: fraction_done_update_period Skipping: 1.000000 Skipping: /fraction_done_update_period In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 896 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1024 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1152 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1280 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1408 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1536 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1664 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1792 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 1920 In ap_client_main.cpp: in mainloop(): at dm_chunk_large 2048 Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: fraction_done_update_period Skipping: 1.000000 Skipping: /fraction_done_update_period In ap_gfx_main.cpp: in ap_graphics_init(): Starting client. Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: fraction_done_update_period Skipping: 1.000000 Skipping: /fraction_done_update_period terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' what(): St9bad_alloc SIGABRT: abort called Crashed executable name: astropulse_4.35_i686-apple-darwin Machine type Intel 80486 (32-bit executable) System version: Macintosh OS 10.5.1 build 9B18 Wed Aug 27 02:48:41 2008 sh: /usr/bin/atos: No such file or directory 0 0x0004e931 1 0x00042f12 2 0x90fb697b 3 0xffffffff 4 0x9102f782 5 0x9103ed3f 6 0x9053b005 7 0x9053910c 8 0x9053914b 9 0x90539261 10 0x905395d8 11 0x00026fe3 12 0x00028837 13 0x0002bd55 14 0x0002cf49 15 0x000185bf 16 0x0003a9f4 17 0x00037e76 18 0x00031421 19 0x00034768 20 0x00002736 21 0x00000001 Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit): eax: 0xffffffe1 ebx: 0x90f7e7e2 ecx: 0xbfffcf1c edx: 0x90f4a8e6 edi: 0x00000000 esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xbfffcf58 esp: 0xbfffcf1c ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00000206 eip: 0x90f4a8e6 cs: 0x00000007 ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037 Binary Images Description: 0x1000 - 0xeafff /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/slots/1/../../projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/astropulse_4.35_i686-apple-darwin 0x904f3000 - 0x90550fff /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib 0x90f4a000 - 0x910a4fff /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib 0x9271f000 - 0x92726fff /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib 0x93a4e000 - 0x93a4ffff /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib Exiting... </stderr_txt> Another error on Mac Pro after processing a bunch of shorties and couple of restarts. Is that coincidense that no official Mac version of Astropulse is available? |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 27 Aug 06 Posts: 835 Credit: 2,129,006 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I wonder if we'll ever see an official release for the Mac. ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 104 Credit: 4,382,041 RAC: 2 ![]() |
ORPHANED AstroPulse Work Units I was just reviewing my current TASKS in my account and spotted two AstroPulse WUs assigned to me: Task ID WUnit ID Sent Deadline 944674187 311943043 6 Aug 2008 17:52:05 UTC 5 Sep 2008 17:52:05 UTC In progress --- New --- --- --- 940308992 309881827 3 Aug 2008 16:34:54 UTC 2 Sep 2008 16:34:54 UTC In progress --- New --- --- --- HOWEVER: (1) neither appears in BOINC Manager (v6.2.18) tasks; (2) I didn't download AP client (4.35) nor modify my app_info.xml file until ~26Aug08; (3) I didn't modify my S@H Computing Preferences prior to Ageless's AstroPulse FAQ posting http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=48489&nowrap=true#797712 on 14Aug. I did notice though at that time that both Seti MultiBeam and AstroPulse were enabled (by default, I guess) in my S@H Prefs; (4) I did see, but don't remember if might have occurred on 3Aug and/or 6Aug or both, that BOINC Manager Message log recorded that Seti did ask to send me 1 or 2 (?) AP workunits, but didn't because BOINC sensed I had no comaptible application installed. <b>Can I (or someone in Berkeley) "cancel" my assignment to those 2 AP units and instead send them to someone else now so as not to strand my wingmen??</b> BTW: I installed AP client v4.35 & modded the app_info.xml file, set S@H Prefs to AP only, and got 2 AP WUs on 27Aug. One AP WU completed this morning (66,585 CPU secs, 454 credits claimed+granted), the 2nd AP WU is still crunching (currently at 67.8% after 20h:45m with estimated 08h:35m to reach completion). Sabertooth Z77, i7-3770K@4.2GHz, GTX680, W8.1Pro x64 P5N32-E SLI, C2D E8400@3Ghz, GTX580, Win7SP1Pro x64 & PCLinuxOS2015 x64 ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 104 Credit: 4,382,041 RAC: 2 ![]() |
To make DCF work as well as it can, the project needs to get the raw estimates for all work in line. From reported data here it looks like the AP estimate needs to be scaled up, but the most that can be expected is scaling to approximately match stock setiathome_enhanced. Those running optimized s_e will continue to have a significant mismatch unless optimized versions of AstroPulse can be produced which achieve similar speed improvements. I got my first 2 AP WUs on 27Aug., I'm crunching them using the standard v4.35 AP client. Both AP WUs started with an estimated completion time of 13h:00m, and the est. completion time continued to increase (not decrease) during about the first 12 hours of computation, then levelled off and began to slowly decrease. One AP WU completed this morning (66,585 CPU secs, 454 credits claimed+granted), the 2nd AP WU is still crunching (currently at 70.0% after 21h:20m with estimated 08h:05m to reach completion). For non-AP WUs, I crunch using Alex Kan's v8 SSE4.1 optimized client. With my C2D E8400, I can crank out ~1 MB WU/core/hr, hence ~2 WUs/hour. Most recent typical MB WUs completed in average ~4200 CPU secs and yield average 52 credits. So it seems, at least for me + my wingman, the 454 credit granted for this first completed AP is quite LOW (this WU took 66,585 CPU secs on my E8400 under WinXP32SP3, less than my wingman's 69,814 CPU sec under VistaSP1). To be on rough parity w/ MB, the AP should have granted 66.6/4.2 * 52 = 817 credits -vs- the actual claimed+granted 454 credits. Maybe my math is invalid trying to compare time+credit of non-optimized AP client -vs- AKv8 optimized MB client. Granted that was my first completed AP WU, hopefully future AP WUs will yield more credit. I do S@H for the science, but it *is* nice to earn some credits whilst we're at it. Sabertooth Z77, i7-3770K@4.2GHz, GTX680, W8.1Pro x64 P5N32-E SLI, C2D E8400@3Ghz, GTX580, Win7SP1Pro x64 & PCLinuxOS2015 x64 ![]() ![]() |
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