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Message 757573 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 0:59:38 UTC

178 and I hope the pup won't try and eat them in one sitting.
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Message 757601 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 2:10:51 UTC
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Because there was a (fair) question as to whether someone could hack the RAR file that holds the answer to the quiz I have doubled the encryption.

Please re-download the .RAR file here.
(I won't be changing the RAR again.)


The number of biccies remains the same...

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How many biccies are in my bowl?


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Message 757605 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 2:25:51 UTC

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Message 757643 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 4:46:27 UTC

My guess is 145.
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Message 757647 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 4:50:14 UTC - in response to Message 757601.  

I have doubled the encryption.

Too late, I'm already working on it...

But for now, my guess is 101... ;)
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Message 757671 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 5:48:23 UTC

My guess would be 218.




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Message 757683 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 6:49:35 UTC

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Message 757684 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 6:56:32 UTC

154
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Message 757715 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 9:05:48 UTC

My guess is 164
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Message 757725 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 9:34:02 UTC

My guess is approx.230
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Message 757736 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 10:31:06 UTC

nice one putting in 125

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Message 757745 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 11:27:37 UTC - in response to Message 757736.  

nice one putting in 125

Good one for a newbie poster.

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Message 757747 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 11:41:08 UTC
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I enlarged the picture of the bowl for a better look! - Hope this is OK for the rules!...LOL. Its the same picture!



So using some maths and physics!:

There appears to be approximately 53 visible biccies. And the Biccies vary in size.

The bone shaped biscuits will be economical in the way they fit, but will need a larger space due to the fact that they are the largest biccies!;

On the other hand, the heart shaped biscuits should take less space and the biscuits will compact around there curvy shape;

Now the square shaped biccies will not fit very well unless the dog handler actually gave the bowl an extensive "Shake" to compact the biscuits. Here is a sample square one; . I apologise for the poor quality of the square biscuit image! - It was a side shot!

Now these oval shaped biccies will be the real clincher in this competition. There shape is ultra economical as the biccies actually fall into the bowl!; . This will be down to the "Rate of Deceleration" as the oval biscuits hit the sides of the bowl and the ability of the shape to quickly find their final position as the biccies settle!

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Now lets not forget that the size of that bowl is very deceptive to the human eye. In your calculation, you must take into account the inner curvature of the bowl. Here is a shot of a bowl that might be manufactured in a similar plastic injection moulding machine;

The inner surface area of the bowl might well be 2.5 times the visible biscuit surface area we see in the original image! (Approximately 53 biscuits). But the inner bowl is in-fact much smaller than what you see on the exterior! Difficult to estimate the actual volume!

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We have also not been told if these two lads where allowed to ravage the biccies before the image was taken!
Suspect No.1;

Suspect No.2;

Both animals appear quite hungary and may have eaten or "Nosed" the biscuits before the image was taken!!!

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So we must allow for the inner area of the plastic bowl, friction against the sides of the bowl when filling and for the 53 approximate visible biscuits. And also allowing for varying size, mass, density and rate of acceleration while filling the bowl. But also for the two hungry animals which might well have nuzzled or eaten some of the biscuits. And also the unknown factor of "Did the dog handler shake the bowl to achieve a compacting effect". Plus the outer circumference of the visible biscuits in relation to the space actually taken by them!!!(Total volume of biscuits, visible or not!)

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My Guess is; 207

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Message 757750 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 11:53:01 UTC - in response to Message 757647.  

I have doubled the encryption.

Too late, I'm already working on it...

But for now, my guess is 101... ;)


I thought of that Jeffrey, but the dogs shown aren't dalmations. ;)


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Message 757752 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 12:01:29 UTC - in response to Message 757749.  

I've just looked carefully at our cats bowls. Hmmm, the underneath of the bottom of the bowl is an inch higher off the floor than the rim. i.e it doesn't hold as much as it looks it might.

My guess is 237.

This is a major factor Chris!!. I had no bowl to test this - Well done on getting us an estimate!

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Message 757755 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 12:22:17 UTC

Oh cut out the scientific crap & give the wrong answer so I can win.
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Message 757758 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 12:26:11 UTC
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Chris S,
We could test this further with that cat bowl you have!

I have reason to believe the brand of dog biscuit is "Pepeto - Dog Biscuit, assortment"

Here is a pic;



Just examine the biccies closely on the packet, they are almost the same!

If someone buys a packet and guesstimates the approximate height and circumference of the visible biscuits, then you could simulate the scientific circumstances that occurred when this image was taken. Therefore being able to get a closer estimate of the total number of biccies in the bowl!.....LOL

You might have to carry out experimental tests on several different bowls to get a closer estimate!

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Message 757759 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 12:26:27 UTC - in response to Message 757756.  

Oh cut out the scientific crap & give the wrong answer so I can win.


Jeepers, you want a Dogbytes USB Doggie that badly?

Yes!
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Message 757768 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 12:47:18 UTC - in response to Message 757759.  

Oh cut out the scientific crap & give the wrong answer so I can win.


Jeepers, you want a Dogbytes USB Doggie that badly?

Yes!




my guess is 107 i win whoo hoo
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Message 757769 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 12:48:13 UTC

Welcome to the boards grainne west.
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