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Mahoujin Tsukai Send message Joined: 21 Jul 07 Posts: 147 Credit: 2,204,402 RAC: 0 |
There have been price cuts for Intel CPUs recently, and the Q6700 became USD250 cheaper overnight. Is anyone going down to the PC store to get a new Intel CPU soon? ------------------- BTW, I wonder whats going to happen to AMD. Their new Phenom CPUs seem less than satisfactory. I hope that AMD doesn't go bust or else Intel will... |
Voyager Send message Joined: 2 Nov 99 Posts: 602 Credit: 3,264,813 RAC: 0 |
What is the differance from q6600 and q6700? besides 2.6 vs 2.4, is their a different multiplyer? does it oc better? I'm pretty pleased with my 6600. |
Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 19 Jul 00 Posts: 3898 Credit: 1,158,042 RAC: 0 |
There have been price cuts for Intel CPUs recently, and the Q6700 became USD250 cheaper overnight. Not sure ... thinking about it ... Would like a dual 4-core system which would allow me to "retire" a couple of my older systems ... Oh, and maybe lower the heat too ... :) |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
What is the differance from q6600 and q6700? besides 2.6 vs 2.4, is their a different multiplyer? does it oc better? I'm pretty pleased with my 6600. Other than the stock clock being 2.40GHz on the 6600 and 2.66GHz on the 6700 I don't think there's any difference. The 6700 uses slightly less power and can run slightly hotter but no other performance changes. Edit: scratch that... the multiplier is one higher. 9 on the 6600 and 10 on the 6700. I should have waited to buy. :^) Specs for comparison: Q6600 and Q6700 |
Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 19 Jul 00 Posts: 3898 Credit: 1,158,042 RAC: 0 |
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dcappello Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 261 Credit: 170,969,320 RAC: 0 |
Core 2 Quad is the only way to run: Microcenter has them for 199.00usd: |
JDWhale Send message Joined: 6 Apr 99 Posts: 921 Credit: 21,935,817 RAC: 3 |
Like dcappello points out... If you live near a "MicroCenter", the Q6600 deal for $199(US) is a great price and has been available "instore" for the past 2 months, I bought one in early March. For those of us who are budget minded, like ME, a "no frills" system can be built by combining this chip with the GigaByte GA-P35-DS3L mobo ($100) and 2GB cheap DDR2-800 memory kit($50) and cheap graphics card for ~$550 total. Full time crunching on 4 cores at stock 2400MHz draws < 170 Watts. Same power consumption as my 3200Mhz Prescott, but easily 500% the performance. In my opinion, it's cost effective to retire the power hungry computers of yesteryear and replace up to 4 individual system with a single newer generation computer. In addition to less heat, lower power, simpler to manage, this solution is also quieter. Donate the old systems to your church or childrens day care for possible tax deduction. Regards, JDWhale |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65832 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Core 2 Quad is the only way to run: Microcenter has them for 199.00usd: I'd rather have a Q6700, Why? Simple My motherboards chipset is an i975X and is old too, As the i975X was around when the Pentium D was around way before the core 2 duos and replacing them would be extremely difficult for a while, So I'll use what I have. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
So, you got the Q6600? Aye. But no matter when you buy there's always something better in the works. Such as this... a prototype 80-core that uses less power than a 6700. Let the drooling commence! |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65832 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
So, you got the Q6600? Last I heard It wasn't x86 compatible, So Why drool yet? Call Me when It's x86 compatible, later. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
David Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 411 Credit: 1,426,457 RAC: 0 |
Last I heard It wasn't x86 compatible, So Why drool yet? Call Me when It's x86 compatible, later. Correct, it's more a testbed on how to get the cores communicating fast enough to justify the huge number of cores. Plus the cores are pretty simple compared to modern ones, so they are slower, cooler and probably smarter when it comes to power and heat |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65832 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Last I heard It wasn't x86 compatible, So Why drool yet? Call Me when It's x86 compatible, later. Ah yes, The mad scientists experiment. ;) The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
David Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 411 Credit: 1,426,457 RAC: 0 |
Ah yes, The mad scientists experiment. ;) Last time they experimented JDWhale was the result ;) |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
Correct, it's more a testbed on how to get the cores communicating fast enough to justify the huge number of cores. Plus the cores are pretty simple compared to modern ones, so they are slower, cooler and probably smarter when it comes to power and heat Yup, it's experimental, but it's an indication of what's coming down the, er... "pipes" in a few years. Quads are selling like hotcakes, so there's an demonstrated market for processors as powerful as can be made. Also each core may be slower than a production unit, but it still does a teraflop. Can't complain about that. |
Clyde C. Phillips, III Send message Joined: 2 Aug 00 Posts: 1851 Credit: 5,955,047 RAC: 0 |
It's nice that faster processors are getting cheaper. The bad thing is, that almost always, one has to buy a new motherboard and new memory to take advantage of (or even fit) the faster processors. |
JDWhale Send message Joined: 6 Apr 99 Posts: 921 Credit: 21,935,817 RAC: 3 |
It's nice that faster processors are getting cheaper. The bad thing is, that almost always, one has to buy a new motherboard and new memory to take advantage of (or even fit) the faster processors. True. But didn't Intel introduce the "Slot 1" to get away from the need for new Mobo to take advantage of newer processors ? Or was there another reason ? Granted that was a few generations ago, but seems the technology still only lasted for one generation... Just another marketing gimmick to get you to buy another motherboard. IMO. [edit] @David - I've worked with a few "Mad Scientists" over the years... Always a fun bunch when it comes time for a p!$$ up. [/edit] |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
True. But didn't Intel introduce the "Slot 1" to get away from the need for new Mobo to take advantage of newer processors ? Or was there another reason ? Yes, the Slot 1 was being touted as the last CPU connector ever needed. I think the ulterior motive was that AMD and other x86 processor manufacturers had a right to use Intel's Socket 7, and Intel didn't like that. Unfortunately, the CPU single edge PCBs added more expense to the overall design of the CPU, thus making less attractive. Slot 1 technically lasted two "generations" as it was for the Pentium II (starting at 233MHz) and went all the way up to the Pentium III (ending at approx. 1.13GHz). Pretty big range there. Intel soon realized that Slot 1 also could not provide the proper voltage required for newer processors coming out, not to mention the motherboard manufacturers were upset over not moving as much stock as they previously did, so Intel had to abandon the Slot 1/Slot 2 designs. Sometimes I swear they come out with a new socket purposely these days just to keep money flowing into the manufacturer's hands. At least Socket 775 lasted a while. The decision was probably made just to keep Intel customers happy because the next CPU generation will require new motherboards with the new QuickPath Interconnect technology. |
David Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 411 Credit: 1,426,457 RAC: 0 |
775 has lasted longer than I expected. I honestly thought that after dual cores were announced, the upcoming Quads would have used a different connector, even though they said they would be the same. I can accept needing to upgrade the boards for voltage changes, power requirements, connection paths, and the physical chip size, so hopefully the next one will last more than a year or two as well. |
Fred J. Verster Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0 |
It's nice that faster processors are getting cheaper. The bad thing is, that almost always, one has to buy a new motherboard and new memory to take advantage of (or even fit) the faster processors. NOT only the ' slot' , but most off all, to FEED all the cores, a better NORTH & SOUTH-BRIDGE, will be necessary .(ICH9{R} & P35/G31&33/X38/X48 chipset's. With heatpipe cooling (or water/other liquid-cooling). ;) And ofcoarse better memory throughput, so it has to be @ least Dual-Channel, but with even more core's, Quad-Channel. |
David Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 411 Credit: 1,426,457 RAC: 0 |
With heatpipe cooling (or water/other liquid-cooling). ;) I would say that heatpipes are almost a necessary thing nowdays - all the better boards have them, and the cheaper ones just chuck a huge bit of colored copper or aluminium (Yes thats spelt right lol) on it and hope that the case airflow keeps it cool enough. And ofcoarse better memory throughput, so it has to be @ least Dual-Channel, but with even more core's, Quad-Channel. I would say that the faster the processors get, then the memory speed will also have to increase, and one easy way is to go to quad channel memory, or change the DDR chip design to have more independent channels per stick of memory as well as multiple sticks able to be written to at the same time. That way the speed of the memory can increase, but the actual speed of writing to the chips can increase initially in a huge way with more parallel data paths. Give it time and memory might look like the current CPU's - many hundreds of pins with a clip onto the motherboard & ability to throw a nice little heatsink on it to keep it cool as well. |
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