It would not be responsibility for me to not provide others with some of the things I have learned...even if it does make me sound crazy...it's worth it if I can keep just one person from harm ways. My intention is not to scare people, but only to inform.

For many years I have heard stories of people who have been abducted...and had strange things done to them. Are they telling the truth...are they having nightmares....or is this really happening to them?

This is going to get a bit deep, so please bear with me. There is an ethnic group on Earth who are not what they appear to be, but to explain who they are I'm going have to reveal some stuff that sounds pretty much out this world!

Before this Universe there was another Universe and believe it or not...we looked very much like we do today! However, that Universe was not as dense as this Universe, which means that we had to start from scratch to create this Universe...which is where the story of Evolution comes from.

In the beginning there was a group who decided that they would take the easy way up the ladder...which means they steal everything they have! However, they have never evolved, which means they have to steal our children in order to experience this reality...which means bondage for our poor children!

Since the ones who are stealing our children never actually evolved in this Universe...they exist on another plane or dimension...which some would call spirits. The babies they steal they drive like cars and treat terribly! Which means they are tortured internally!

These children who are in bondage by the ones who don't want to climb the ladder correctly were forced to look and go into the future and steal their secrets, which is how they learned how to build the UFO's we see today.

There is a war going on with our descendants who climbed the ladder correctly and the ones who steal our children and forced them into bondage.

The ones who exist in our reality are being forced to try to take over the world, however their land does not exist in the future because in the near future that land is going to fall into the ocean...by the judgement of God! They are known by some as Atlantians and by others the Egyptians. We will call them Atlantians. The place we call Egypt today was misnamed.

Alexander the Great tried to reach the Atlantians but only made it half-way before he was stopped by India. If he had made it he would have had to climb the largest mountains on Earth, which probably would have killed him, or sail to the Atlantians Islands. It was not until we found America that we were able to reach the Atlantians, but not until we conquered the Pacific.

The ones who steal their way up the ladder put evil thoughts in the minds of men and are responsible for most if not ALL the wars on Earth in both past and present.

I told you this was going to get a little deep!
Science_Jane

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I told you this was going to get a little deep!
Science_Jane

Hmmm, I found that interesting. Can you go a little deeper?

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There is an ethnic group on Earth who are not what they appear to be, but to explain who they are I'm going have to reveal some stuff that sounds pretty much out this world!

An ETHNIC GROUP on Earth who are not what they appear to be??

Uhh....Jane....I don't want to sound insulting or anything......but that sounds a bit like the most extreme kind of paranoid racism to me......

Before this Universe there was another Universe and believe it or not...we looked very much like we do today! However, that Universe was not as dense as this Universe, which means that we had to start from scratch to create this Universe...which is where the story of Evolution comes from.

And you know all this how exactly?

Since the ones who are stealing our children never actually evolved in this Universe...they exist on another plane or dimension...which some would call spirits. The babies they steal they drive like cars and treat terribly! Which means they are tortured internally!

These children who are in bondage by the ones who don't want to climb the ladder correctly were forced to look and go into the future and steal their secrets, which is how they learned how to build the UFO's we see today.

If these people have the technology to build UFOs, why do they have to kidnap children? Why can't they just clone as many children as they want from a single strand of hair or some other ubiquitous source of DNA?

They are known by some as Atlantians and by others the Egyptians. We will call them Atlantians. The place we call Egypt today was misnamed.

Alexander the Great tried to reach the Atlantians but only made it half-way before he was stopped by India. If he had made it he would have had to climb the largest mountains on Earth, which probably would have killed him, or sail to the Atlantians Islands. It was not until we found America that we were able to reach the Atlantians, but not until we conquered the Pacific.

Alexander the Great conquered Egypt fairly early in his campaigns; Atlantis was alleged by myths to have existed in the Atlantic Ocean....that's why it's called the the Atlantic Ocean. You do know where that is, right? If Alexander was trying to "reach the Atlantians" then why was he going towards India? Wouldn't that be the wrong way?

And do you have any historical accounts from credible contemporary sources that Alexander was trying to reach "Atlantians" in India?

Jane, I strongly recommend this book; it might genuinely be of some help to you.

http://www.amazon.com/Demon-Haunted-World-Science-Candle-Dark/dp/0345409469/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208356925&sr=8-1

How Queer.

I told you this was going to get a little deep!

I could give you an even deeper biblical explanation of what you've just described... But two 'crazy people' in the same thread might be a little too overwhelming for those who don't see it...

To quote a college girl I had as a neighbor a few years back: "I see something going on but I don't understand it, I really wish I could understand it, but I don't"... She said it with tears in her eyes...

This is very real, but not everyone can see it, and even fewer can understand it... ;)

(The 'ethnic group' you refer to is actually 'evil spirits' that are possessing people of weak spiritual character.)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

How Queer.

Maybe, but I have a theory with similarities that I put on a web page some years ago. You might not understand it and what Science_Jane says, but I doubt if the universe is a cosy as most might suggest.

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(The 'ethnic group' you refer to is actually 'evil spirits' or 'fallen angels' that are possessing people of weak spiritual character.)

That's wrong. We are all "possessed". We all have a soul.

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oh my.

Question is Es, what made you possess your body :)

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oh my.

Question is Es, what made you possess your body :)

lol..no one possesses my body but me..and hopefully at some later date Johnny Depp.

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oh my.

Question is Es, what made you possess your body :)

lol..no one possesses my body but me..and hopefully at some later date Johnny Depp.

ha ha. But that's my point "no one possesses my body but me". No 'fallen angel' or nuthin' ;)

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We are all "possessed". We all have a soul.

That is true, but some are possessed by good spirits and others are possessed by evil spirits... Hence, the battle between good and evil... We might have all been born with a soul, but we won't all die with a soul... Hence the phrase 'you have sold your soul', most commonly used in reference to someone who has done something evil in exchange for some sort of personal gain... ;)

My source is biblical, and last time I checked, science has yet to find a spirit or a soul... But if you have a better source, then please, let me know... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Question is Es, what made you possess your body :)

By being born!

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science has yet to find a spirit or a soul... But if you have a better source, then please, let me know... ;)

*Exactly!* ;)

Here's another book I'll recommend-
http://www.amazon.com/God-Delusion-Richard-Dawkins/dp/0618918248/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208364237&sr=8-1

How Queer.

Maybe, but I have a theory with similarities that I put on a web page some years ago. You might not understand it and what Science_Jane says, but I doubt if the universe is a cosy as most might suggest.

I found my web page, which I wrote many yeas ago and put it here;

of god and angels

A long, long time ago there was a fantastic being, call it God if you like, impossible to describe or define, impossible to identify as one or made up of many.

It sat there being all-powerful.

For a long time.

Got bored.

Decided to create the universe for something to do.

To pass the time.

Looked at it - very pretty and soon got bored again.

I know, it thought, I shall create life.

God created life in different forms, trying out new ideas all the time.

Created chickens and thought – nice.

Soon got bored again.

God looked at the chicken and thought "what would it be like to BE a chicken"?

So he jumped right in and lost all his godly powers to be a chicken for a while. Jumped right out again.

Thought about this experience.

Thought about sitting around all powerful and feeling utterly bored - for eons and eons.

I know it thought, if I make "Man" and put myself in him/her; I could taste, touch, hear, laugh, debate, enjoy myself for the heck of it, laze around in bed with a good book all day....

I could do tons of stuff and never be bored!

So that's what he did, he made the Earth to be the best place for humans.

But part of God, call it devils if you like, started treating mankind like chickens on a chicken farm - for nothing but their own needs and pleasure.

This part of God decided to be murderer, a child molester, a child dying of starvation, a man having his head chopped off - just for his own entertainment.

Well, the other part of God was 'out there' also. Let us call this part angels.

They also agreed with God's original plan, originally agreeing the human race would be a really nice way to exist in a physical plane.

Unfortunately the devil part of God is going a bit too far with his 'experiments' and the angel parts have been fighting for a long time to turn things the way they should.

But God cannot fight itself.

The angels have other ways of 'persuading' the devil part of God to play ball, to stop being so utterly selfish.

So the angels decided that, although they could not fight with the rest of God, they would do what they could to make the world the place it should be - free from wars, famine, pain, deceit, lies, selfishness…

So they are going about their business right now, often cursing the devils who are having fun at the chickens’ expense....

Are you an angel or a devil?

and who is God?

do we all not come from God?

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So he jumped right in and lost all his godly powers to be a chicken for a while. Jumped right out again.

I really don't think that Jesus would appreciate being referred to as 'a chicken'... ;)

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I bet a lot of the stories in the Bible can be explained by nature...Like some poor guy freezing in the night and all he can find to burn is Juniper...

JUNIPER -- _Juniperas macropoda._ Family Cupressaceae (Cypress
family).
Materials: Leaves and branches of bush or tree found in
northwestern Himalayan area. Berries of some juniper species are used
in gin.
Usage: Leaves and branches are spread upon embers of fire.
Person places blanket over head while inhaling smoke.
Active Constituents: Psychotropic agent uncertain.
Nonacosanol,beta-D-glucoside of beta-sitosterol, sugiol (a diterpene
ketone), and several glycosides and aglycones have been isolated.
Effects: Intoxicant, hallucinogen, and deliriant. Causes user to
move about in agitated, dizzy manner for several minutes, then
collapse into hypnotic trance. Experience lasts about 30 minutes
during which user may experience visions of communication with
supernatural entities.
Contraindication: Not specifically known, but obviously not for
frequent use. Probably hepatotoxic.
Supplier: Berries, MGH; plants (some species), RCS, nurseries.

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And no good credit hound!

So he jumped right in and lost all his godly powers to be a chicken for a while. Jumped right out again.

I really don't think that Jesus would appreciate being referred to as 'a chicken'... ;)

I thought god was everywhere. In chickens even.

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god has been consumed,all is over

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I thought god was everywhere.

I was jesting... But yes, God is everywhere... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .