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Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
By EILEEN SULLIVAN Associated Press WASHINGTON - A large U.S. spy satellite has lost power and could hit the Earth in late February or early March, government officials said Saturday. The satellite, which no longer can be controlled, could contain hazardous materials, and it is unknown where on the planet it might come down, they said. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the information is classified as secret. It was not clear how long ago the satellite lost power, or under what circumstances. "Appropriate government agencies are monitoring the situation," said Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the National Security Council, when asked about the situation after it was disclosed by other officials. "Numerous satellites over the years have come out of orbit and fallen harmlessly. We are looking at potential options to mitigate any possible damage this satellite may cause." He would not comment on whether it is possible for the satellite to perhaps be shot down by a missile. He said it would be inappropriate to discuss any specifics at this time. A senior government official said that lawmakers and other nations are being kept apprised of the situation. The spacecraft contains hydrazine - which is rocket fuel - according to a government official who was not authorized to speak publicly but spoke on condition of anonymity. Hydrazine, a colorless liquid with an ammonia-like odor, is a toxic chemical and can cause harm to anyone who contacts it. Such an uncontrolled re-entry could risk exposure of U.S. secrets, said John Pike, a defense and intelligence expert. Spy satellites typically are disposed of through a controlled re-entry into the ocean so that no one else can access the spacecraft, he said. Pike also said it's not likely the threat from the satellite could be eliminated by shooting it down with a missile, because that would create debris that would then re-enter the atmosphere and burn up or hit the ground. Pike, director of the defense research group GlobalSecurity.org, estimated that the spacecraft weighs about 20,000 pounds and is the size of a small bus. He said the satellite would create 10 times less debris than the Columbia space shuttle crash in 2003. Satellites have natural decay periods, and it's possible this one died as long as a year ago and is just now getting ready to re-enter the atmosphere, he said. Jeffrey Richelson, a senior fellow with the National Security Archive, said the spacecraft likely is a photo reconnaissance satellite. Such eyes in the sky are used to gather visual information from space about adversarial governments and terror groups, including construction at suspected nuclear sites or militant training camps. The satellites also can be used to survey damage from hurricanes, fires and other natural disasters. The largest uncontrolled re-entry by a NASA spacecraft was Skylab, the 78-ton abandoned space station that fell from orbit in 1979. Its debris dropped harmlessly into the Indian Ocean and across a remote section of western Australia. In 2000, NASA engineers successfully directed a safe de-orbit of the 17-ton Compton Gamma Ray Observatory, using rockets aboard the satellite to bring it down in a remote part of the Pacific Ocean. In 2002, officials believe debris from a 7,000-pound science satellite smacked into the Earth's atmosphere and rained down over the Persian Gulf, a few thousand miles from where they first predicted it would plummet. me@rescam.org |
KD [SETI.USA] Send message Joined: 24 Oct 99 Posts: 459 Credit: 2,513,131 RAC: 0 |
Forgot all about this bird until seeing the joint Pentagon/NASA briefing a few minutes ago. Looks like they are going to shoot it down. Anyone else catch this contradiction: in the beginning of the briefing they said that their main concern was the hydrazine tanks making it through entry, but later said that there was no concern about the "secret" components making it through entry. Hmm. Tanks of gas can survive entry, while hardened (and redundant) components can't? LOL. I'd say that another (probably the main) component to the decision to blow it up is to demonstrate that we have the capability of shooting down satellites -- especially to China. The Pentagon is probably pissed at NASA for the failure of this bird, but is looking forward to blowing it up. The Navy is probably really looking forward to trying out one of their toys as well. Nothing wrong with any of it, of course... |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
Anyone else catch this contradiction: That's what I was thinking. Oh it was so wrong for China to do it... but hypocrisy and government, etc. me@rescam.org |
AndyW Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 5862 Credit: 10,957,677 RAC: 18 |
All Governments are the same then! I must admit though that when I first heard about the Satellite falling to Earth, whilst there is a huge chance it would land in one of the seas I would have been amazed if they had just left things to chance. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
All the Progress cargo ships are loaded with trash and burn up in the atmosphere after leaving the International Space Station. What's the difference? Tullio |
RandyC Send message Joined: 20 Oct 99 Posts: 714 Credit: 1,704,345 RAC: 0 |
All the Progress cargo ships are loaded with trash and burn up in the atmosphere after leaving the International Space Station. What's the difference? It's a deliberate and planned reentry into uninhabited areas (ocean). The Spy satellite is unpowered and out of control and there is no way to direct it to a safe reentry point. |
kwf Send message Joined: 19 Jan 08 Posts: 1 Credit: 78,259 RAC: 0 |
Not to say that they aren't trying to send a message, but there is a big difference between hitting something at 140nm (the US 173) and the Chinese strike at 500nm. All of the US 173 debris will be down in a month, the Chinese debris will be there for several lifetimes. |
Clyde C. Phillips, III Send message Joined: 2 Aug 00 Posts: 1851 Credit: 5,955,047 RAC: 0 |
It seems hard to try to aim at something going almost eight km/sec and destroy it by impact. That's worse than disintegrating a bullet with another bullet. Maybe the destructive missile could carry a bomb and video cameras, approach the satellite, get alongside it (maybe touching it) and then explode. But that would require small rockets for steering and synchronizing velocities. |
stranded Send message Joined: 2 May 04 Posts: 3 Credit: 10,091 RAC: 0 |
I saw this on the news few minutes ago, it's gonna (well if it's gonna) to drop somewhere near my area which is Poland (central Europe) aliens ain't farmers |
RandyC Send message Joined: 20 Oct 99 Posts: 714 Credit: 1,704,345 RAC: 0 |
I saw this on the news few minutes ago, it's gonna (well if it's gonna) to drop somewhere near my area which is Poland (central Europe) You're probably safe. They don't even have a probable date for re-entry, much less a target zone. Some of the variables involved: o Current height of the atmosphere (varies based on warming/cooling from sun) o Satellite orientation (tumbling/broadside to atmosphere) o Drag co-effecient |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
Navy to try to take out errant U.S. spy satellite me@rescam.org |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
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Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
International agreement <quotes:> Ambassador Christina Rocca announced today that should debris from the satellite fall on foreign territory, the U.S. government will compensate the countries in question. The move is consistent with America's ratification of a 1972 treaty that requires states to assume responsibility for damages caused by space objects BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . |
KD [SETI.USA] Send message Joined: 24 Oct 99 Posts: 459 Credit: 2,513,131 RAC: 0 |
<CONSPIRACY_THEORY> It wasn't really a spy satellite to begin with. It was put up there as a target from day one. They just wanted to shoot at something. The whole "spy satellite" and "dangerous hydrazine" is just a cover story. </CONSPIRACY_THEORY> |
AndyW Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 5862 Credit: 10,957,677 RAC: 18 |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7254540.stm BBC NEWS |
Clyde C. Phillips, III Send message Joined: 2 Aug 00 Posts: 1851 Credit: 5,955,047 RAC: 0 |
I heard, on a local radio station, while in the basement walking and eating lunch, that the satellite was blown such that no piece was bigger than a football. That was at about 10:02 AM EST. |
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