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Eric Korpela Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1382 Credit: 54,506,847 RAC: 60 |
As some people noted in other parts of the forums, there was an article in the Washington Post this weekend about the crisis in NSF funding for the Arecibo Observatory (and, perhaps, radio astronomy in general.) I just want to let everyone know that we are aware of the situation and are planning to fight for Arecibo's future. Dan and some others that I work with were in Washington this week attending a meeting to discuss the scientific future of Arecibo. The observatory does have unique capabilities, primarily because of its size. The Allen Telescope Array (ATA) currently has 42 dishes (not all have yet been operational), but the combined collecting area of those dishes is about 1.5% of the area of the Arecibo telescope. If ATA is able to get funding for an additional 40 dishes that will be 3% of the Arecibo collecting area. Even at the initially proposed 300 dishes (which won't happen any time soon) it is a small fraction of the collecting area of Arecibo. ATA's power comes from being able to focus in on smaller areas of the sky, which makes it an excellent instrument for looking for signals from specific stars, but inappropriate for surveys of large sky areas like SETI@home. Only when the Square Kilometer Array is fully operational (scheduled for 2020, but who knows) will Arecibo's capability be surpassed. What led us to this funding problem? Primarily a combination of flat budgets for astronomy research and expensive new instruments. The National Science Foundation budget for Astronomy is about $200 million dollars per year, and prior to this year, the budget for Arecibo was about $10 million. Neither of those numbers are chump change, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise. If the NSF doesn't get a budget increase for Astronomy and doesn't close some facilities, there will be a $30 million dollar shortfall, so Arecibo isn't the only facility in trouble. What does make Arecibo different is that most of those other facilities are in states, whereas Arecibo is in a U.S. protectorate. Puerto Rico doesn't have Senators to help protect budget appropriations. It does have Representatives, but the last time I checked, their representatives are not voting members of the Congress. On the other hand, there is the National Radio Astronomy Observatories (NRAO) which has facilities in West Virginia (home of Senator Byrd) and New Mexico (home of Senator Domenici). Arecibo is NOT part of NRAO. A couple years ago the director of NRAO called his senators and said NRAO needed $2 million more than NSF was going to give it. So Byrd and Domenici earmarked $4 million (yes $4 million) in additional funds for NRAO. Of course that money had to come from somewhere else in the NSF astronomy budget. That was when Arecibo's budget was reduced by $2 million. I don't know where the other $2 million came from. The directory of the Planetary Society said, in the Post article, that an earmark might be a good option for keeping Arecibo open. I'm not so sure, given that any money earmarked for Arecibo will come from some other Astronomy program. A better option is a 15% (constant dollars) increase in the NSF Astronomy budget over the next 5 years. I'll talk to the people who attended the meeting next week. I've written my Senators and Congressmen already and used some back channels to make the chair of the House Appropriations Committee aware of the situation. It would probably help if you wrote yours as well. We may organize a full letter writing campaign in the near future to help get our point across to Congress, but there's no need to wait for that. Letters work better than emails, and personal visits work best of all, if you happen to be traveling to Washington DC. For those of you outside of the U.S., should all of our efforts fail, there may be a place for international cooperation in funding Arecibo. If the U.S. government doesn't want it, maybe the E.U. does. We'll let you know how it goes. @SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon) |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
Thank You Eric - Interesting Post - It is Much Appreciated Sir! |
Rndmacts Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 4 Credit: 122,806 RAC: 0 |
Maybe if all your efforts fail, then all the Canadian users on SETI@Home could write to the Canadian Space Agency to pick up the budget of Arecebo. I am sure that this would fit in with its mandate of space exporation. Just a thought. Can a whisper be heard across the universe? |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
eh Eric - Is there a 'Portion' of your Letter or a Draft that You may have for others that they can use - as a basis for theirs? Might make it easier and/or more appropriate to send something that more or less is placed in Context with the situation - rather than something that may not be appropriately written - don't you think? Thank You for Your Time and Consideration snip I'll talk to the people who attended the meeting next week. I've written my Senators and Congressmen already and used some back channels to make the chair of the House Appropriations Committee aware of the situation. It would probably help if you wrote yours as well. |
Eric Korpela Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1382 Credit: 54,506,847 RAC: 60 |
I will post an "open" version (i.e. with some personal or private details redacted) of the letter in the next couple of days for others to use as a starting point. Thanks for the idea. Eric
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gomeyer Send message Joined: 21 May 99 Posts: 488 Credit: 50,370,425 RAC: 0 |
Good idea, thanks for that. |
Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0 |
Good. go get money that is deserving. Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
I would like to hear some rationale as to why there are two SETI thrusts at Berkley--may well relate to funding from any source. |
Pawly Send message Joined: 13 Jan 07 Posts: 2694 Credit: 1,049,945 RAC: 0 |
Maybe if all your efforts fail, then all the Canadian users on SETI@Home could write to the Canadian Space Agency to pick up the budget of Arecebo. I am sure that this would fit in with its mandate of space exporation. Just a thought. Tap me on the shoulder or something next time. lol I'll get the boys involved and see what we can brainstorm. But don't expect miracles from a minority conservative government. PS Thanks for the shirt, Eric. DONATE TO SETI |
Keith Jones Send message Joined: 25 Oct 00 Posts: 17 Credit: 5,266,279 RAC: 0 |
As some people noted in other parts of the forums, there was an article in the Washington Post this weekend about the crisis in NSF funding for the Arecibo Observatory (and, perhaps, radio astronomy in general.) I just want to let everyone know that we are aware of the situation and are planning to fight for Arecibo's future. Hi Eric, I know this is tenuous but I thought it might be useful for 'Spin Doctoring'. The BBC website just announced that Folding@Home has entered the Guiness book of Records for their PS3 code giving them Petabyte processing power. Article Here. What caught my eye was the phrase, "One of the most high profile projects is seti@home, which uses computer cycles to search through thousands of hours of radio telescope signals for signs of extra-terrestrial intelligence." Perhaps the notoriety can be emphasized? or with a little user support on the coding side Seti could challenge the record with it's own potential PS3 code and huge user base? That's gotta be worth a few bob of sponsership? Just a thought... no strings attached etc :-) Good luck and thank you for all your efforts. Regards, Keith PS: Posting the link on the "Number Crunching" forums in the hope a PS3 coder is around :-) |
Eric Korpela Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1382 Credit: 54,506,847 RAC: 60 |
We've been looking for a PS3/Core porter for some time. We talked to Sony about doing it, but their lawyers had problems with the licensing terms. By they time those were resolved, the personnel at Sony who were planning to do the port had moved on to other projects. If anyone knows a PS3 guru, let me know. Eric @SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon) |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
What about installing linux onto the PS3 and using SETI's linux client? me@rescam.org |
RandyC Send message Joined: 20 Oct 99 Posts: 714 Credit: 1,704,345 RAC: 0 |
What about installing linux onto the PS3 and using SETI's linux client? You wind up wasting all those 'co-processors'. If it's not written specifically for the PS3 it only uses the primary processor and ignores the others. |
HTH Send message Joined: 8 Jul 00 Posts: 691 Credit: 909,237 RAC: 0 |
We've been looking for a PS3/Core porter for some time. How about the GPU client? Manned mission to Mars in 2019 Petition <-- Sign this, please. |
Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
@ Eric - did you get any of the 'form letters' ready? (for Funding & Publicity) gmail 2 mi . . . Thanks Sir . . . BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . |
Blurf Send message Joined: 2 Sep 06 Posts: 8962 Credit: 12,678,685 RAC: 0 |
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Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0 |
DrCeti- you may wish to check the Technical News forum post from Matt Pete - that's NOT what i was referrin' to - Eric knows what i mean Sir . . . ps - note Matt's Post - i Posted back to 'im as usual too awhile ago . . . but, Thank You for bringin' THAT up (Donations?) i did another $ - but it hasn't updated for some reason BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . |
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