Kinda like most of this thread

No offence Rush, but if you feel this way - Tell me why do you bother posting?

I do just as everyone here does, post as I see fit.

But that doesn't mean that there isn't an unending supply of empty rhetoric spewed around this BBS.

"I hate that (insert yer bestest pal you've never met here) got banned, but I just have to use that red x from time to time" is pure hypocrisy.

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Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
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I do just as everyone here does, post as I see fit.

But that doesn't mean that there isn't an unending supply of empty rhetoric spewed around this BBS.

"I hate that (insert yer bestest pal you've never met here) got banned, but I just have to use that red x from time to time" is pure hypocrisy.

Sorry Rush, I have come across threads where I liked what the posters were saying & politely joined in. So far, many of the posters have welcomed me with open arms.

However, saying that, I have also come across numerous threads that were very thought provoking, but did not join in due to the unnecssary flaming which I thought was getting well out of hand.

My action was to simply ignore those threads & join in the ones that I felt were acceptable. For example, there were several threads where Ice & Crunchy
made several replies to a topic which were very well said, only for them to get flamed.

So your answer of as everyone else does is BS. If I find a topic personally unacceptable, I do not post a reply & look for a thread that I can participate in.

Also, I do not post just for the hell of it!!!

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"I hate that (insert yer bestest pal you've never met here) got banned, but I just have to use that red x from time to time" is pure hypocrisy.

I'm trying to understand what you are saying.

Are you saying that KenzieB (or anyone) was banned because she was Red X'ed by some of those who now offer her their best wishes?

That would be hypocrisy if it were true.

Did I misunderstand you?

Sorry Rush, I have come across threads where I liked what the posters were saying & politely joined in. So far, many of the posters have welcomed me with open arms.

Good. More power to you. Welcome.

However, saying that, I have also come across numerous threads that were very thought provoking, but did not join in due to the unnecssary flaming which I thought was getting well out of hand.

True, a lot of people here let their emotions run away with them, whether it's a Don Quixote-like quest (a regular occurrence), or they don't like how something is phrased, or they don't agree with what was posted, or, when they actually are attacked.

My action was to simply ignore those threads & join in the ones that I felt were acceptable. For example, there were several threads where Ice & Crunchy made several replies to a topic which were very well said, only for them to get flamed.

Ah, so you posted as you saw fit. You took the reasons that were sufficient for you and you used them in deciding to post.

"Flaming" really is in the eye of the beholder. Disagreement doesn't necessarily mean flames.

So your answer of as everyone else does is BS. If I find a topic personally unacceptable, I do not post a reply & look for a thread that I can participate in.

It's not a collective, I didn't mean it that way. I don't post because "of as everyone else does," I post as I see fit. Not as you see fit. Not as everyone else sees fit. I didn't find the topic personally unacceptable. I posted as I saw fit, which is the not the same as posting as a collective sees fit. Your reasoning behind a specific post may differ from mine, but you are still using your reasoning to do so--which is exactly what I do. In other words, I do just what everyone else does, post as I see fit.

Also, I do not post just for the hell of it!!!

Well, you had better get used to posters doing that. It's endless here.

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Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
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"I hate that (insert yer bestest pal you've never met here) got banned, but I just have to use that red x from time to time" is pure hypocrisy.

I'm trying to understand what you are saying.

Are you saying that KenzieB (or anyone) was banned because she was Red X'ed by some of those who now offer her their best wishes?

That would be hypocrisy if it were true.

Did I misunderstand you?

You did not misunderstand him.
Rush, when did people ask for the red-X option? It has been present for as long as I can remember during my time posting. I take issue with calling the red-X a way for posters to control other posters. Do you include in this something such as "Look, if my very similar post got moderated, then this one should not remain, either"? That "similar post" could be from anybody: friend, foe or stranger.
What about red-X'ing your own post? Or the fact that kenzieB asked for her posts to be red-X'd? This does not fall under one poster exercising control over another. If anything, it might indicate one poster failing, temporarily, to exercise self-control.

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Now that was well said.

I understand & you made valid points.

I can also understand the differnece between disagreements & flaming.

That's what life is all about - agreeing to disagree. Without this fact we would never be able to accomplish anything.

Regardless on whether or not we agree/disagree with another person, surely we are human enough to realise when a reply is well said, to be able to acknowledge that even though one may disagree.

Take yourself for example, there have been several posts by you which I have read which I totally disagreed with, but your reply with regards to the topic was very well said.

I did not see any reply that acknowledged that fact.

you will see this from me.

So again, very well said.

I'm trying to understand what you are saying.

Are you saying that KenzieB (or anyone) was banned because she was Red X'ed by some of those who now offer her their best wishes?

That would be hypocrisy if it were true.

Did I misunderstand you?

cRunch, yes. There are people here (plenty) that use the red x and then complain when people are banned, or their personal posts are cut, et cetera. That's pure hypocrisy.

First it was the negative ratings and the big ole' marys couldn't handle that. Oh jeebus did they whine about that, "I got -1'ed! I got -1'ed!" Then they (hilariously) formed little battle groups of Don Quixotes to -1 the hell out of posts of people whom they perceived had wronged them. To keep track, I would give each lil' battleball the most accurate and descriptive name that I could, except that I had to give that up because every single time the name was always "The Don Quixotes."

So then the -1 was removed, and instead, they all started e-mailing, writing, and calling the scientists who work for the project, whining about all the minutia (utterly unrelated to the project) that deeply bothered them.

It seems they wanted their thin skins to be supplicated at every turn, never quite understanding that this is the natural result. Their friends get banned, their enemies get banned. Their enemies get the posts deleted, their own personal posts get deleted.

Then they start the empty rhetoric threads, where they public and loudly prostrate themselves in front of the Altar of Scientists and Those Who Proclaimed That This Time They are Leaving For GOOD. "Oh dear Jeebus, please don't go, because I'll never be able to hand virtual coffee to anyone else!!! Well, virtually anyone else. Until at least 5 minutes from now."

All this stuff is the direct result of their begging of the Scientists to appoint "moderators" and their use of the red x.

Yes, that's pure hypocrisy.

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Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
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Rush, when did people ask for the red-X option? It has been present for as long as I can remember during my time posting.

If they use it, it's the same thing. I'm sure it was here when whathisname designed the code for the forum.

When the ratings buttons were removed I said they should remove the red x and then utterly ignore nearly every single e-mail concerning the boards.

I take issue with calling the red-X a way for posters to control other posters. Do you include in this something such as "Look, if my very similar post got moderated, then this one should not remain, either"? That "similar post" could be from anybody: friend, foe or stranger.

Sarge, complaining that your post was moderated is a perfectly valid complaint. Red x'ing to get someone else's post nailed because yours was is wrong.

What about red-X'ing your own post? Or the fact that kenzieB asked for her posts to be red-X'd? This does not fall under one poster exercising control over another. If anything, it might indicate one poster failing, temporarily, to exercise self-control.

Sure, you can red x your own post, just like you can e-mail the admins asking to be banned, just like you can sign yourself into a mental clinic. It's only a problem when you use it to try and control what other people post because you don't like them, or what they posted, or their sense of humor, or you are sensitive to a particular topic.

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Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
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Regardless on whether or not we agree/disagree with another person, surely we are human enough to realise when a reply is well said, to be able to acknowledge that even though one may disagree.

Take yourself for example, there have been several posts by you which I have read which I totally disagreed with, but your reply with regards to the topic was very well said.

Thank you Patrick, but don't worry about it. We don't ever have to agree, you have to live your life reasoning as you see fit, just as we all do.

Enjoy your time here. And try to leave the "eff" word out. 8^]

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Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
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[quote Enjoy your time here. And try to leave the "eff" word out. 8^]
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No problems - By the way, point taken.

PJ

[quote Enjoy your time here. And try to leave the "eff" word out. 8^]

No problems - By the way, point taken.

PJ[/quote]


Patrick

This is Rush all over. Just ignore him, but he won't go away.

If you cannot ignore him then place him on filter.

You will need his user ID number to achieve the latter.

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This is Rush all over. Just ignore him, but he won't go away.

If you cannot ignore hin then place him on filter.

You will need his user ID number to achieve the latter.

Or choose the more intellectually honest route and keep your mind open to other points of view that you don't agree with.

Which seems to be the route you have chosen. Well done.

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Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
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Patrick,

I'll have a fiver bet with you that you will think differently in 3 months time.

I would agree with Chris

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ok throw them in the pit

bets r open

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Patrick,

I'll have a fiver bet with you that you will think differently in 3 months time.

I would agree with Chris

Ah, two more bits of wisdom and brilliance! It's almost like they're saying nothing whatsoever at all, except that, well, ummmm, except that... except that, uh, well, sorry. Except that nothing. They are saying nothing at all.

Maybe here is where I should start whining about how my thread wasn't what I intended and then I should start red x'ing posts?

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Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Patrick,

I'll have a fiver bet with you that you will think differently in 3 months time.

I would agree with Chris

Ah, two more bits of wisdom and brilliance! It's almost like they're saying nothing whatsoever at all, except that, well, ummmm, except that... except that, uh, well, sorry. Except that nothing. They are saying nothing at all.

Maybe here is where I should start whining about how my thread wasn't what I intended and then I should start red x'ing posts?

Or walk away, leaving people to reflect on your words?

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Or walk away, leaving people to reflect on your words?

Now now sarge, don't confuse the poor boy!

I doubt I have ever confused Rush, just agreed or disagreed with him.

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If we all had the same point of view, thoughts, lifestyles, work, what a sad boring world this would be.

Whether we like it or not, people are people & whether they are intelligent or dumb, remember this: -

A broken clock is right twice per day.

My motto is "give all the benefit of the doubt" & if they are stupid enough, they will eventually hang themselves.

As i've already said to KenzieB, my middle name is" Serenity"

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A broken clock is right twice per day. ...

I like this more :o)


My grandfather was a clock

maker


That's a cool saying Patrick.

by HH the Dalai Lama ©2003 . . .

The Eight Verses on Transforming the Mind

With a determination to achieve the highest aim
For the benefit of all sentient beings,
Which surpasses even the wish -fulfilling gem,
May I hold them dear at all times.

Whenever I interact with someone,
May I view myself as the lowest amongst all,
And, from the very depths of my heart,
Respectfully hold others as superior.

In all my deeds may I probe into my mind,
And as soon as mental and emotional afflictions arise
As they endanger myself and others,
May I strongly confront them and avert them.

When I see beings of unpleasant character
Oppressed by strong negativity and suffering,
May I hold them dear-for they are rare to find
As if I have discovered a jewel treasure!

When others, out of jealousy,
Treat me wrongly with abuse, slander, and scorn,
May I take upon myself the defeat
And offer to others the victory.


When someone I have helped,
Or in whom I have placed great hopes,
Mistreats me in extremely hurtful ways,
May I regard him still as my precious teacher.

In brief, may I offer benefit and joy To all beings,
both directly and indirectly,
May I quietly take upon myself
The hurts and pains of all beings.

May all this remain undefiled
By the stains of the eight mundane concerns (gain and loss; pleasure and pain; praise and blame; fame and obscurity)
And may I, recognizing all things as illusion,
Devoid of clinging, be released from the bondage of attachment.

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