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What Does Respect Mean TO You?

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1. Please post your answer to the question only.


2. Please discuss differences of opinion via Private Mail or one of the MANY Cafe Threads.


3. Please RESPECT the rules.

Thank You

It is my opinion that respect must be learned.

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So, want to solve the "problem" that bothers you so? Shut up. Keep yer pie hole closed. Wait 24 hours after something annoys you before you comment. Read it over 1000 times and ask yourself if it isn't just possible that the poster meant it differently than you took it (or that you missed something important like a colon)?


More accurately here: "We have met the enemy, and he is us." --Pogo, 1970

I'm speaking only to your "solution" quoted above, Rush.

What if nonetheless you are right in your interpretation? What if the further posts on the thread show that everyone else takes it that way too?

Wait 24 hours, read it 1,000 times and seek some element of doubt? And if any doubt exists, don't respond?

What about the masters of innuendo, who post offending material repeatedly with ambiguity built-in for plausible deniability? Ignore the innuendos cumulatively forever?

I can envision some posters running a truck through the holes in your solution.

I can see some posters manipulating for themselves a 24-hour flaming field-fest, if that were the general method of most posters.


Post 'rationally' ie entirely without emotion at all times? That is difficult for us humans to do. I sense emotion in your post, for example. ;)

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It ain't rocket science folks, it's just human interaction--and you won't ever change that by hiring the incompetent or the emotional. It's likely that those that care enough to commit the time for free, care too much to be in charge. There are any number of examples of that...

So, want to solve the "problem" that bothers you so? Shut up. Keep yer pie hole closed. Wait 24 hours after something annoys you before you comment. Read it over 1000 times and ask yourself if it isn't just possible that the poster meant it differently than you took it (or that you missed something important like a colon)?

I think you are right Rush.

I only hired myself when I responded to others. I am incompetent and emotional to try and deal with such a large community.

It's a wierd world now as none of us were really designed to have relationships outside of our immediate village.

The world just took a turn in the past 50 years. We can hear the global voice. In the last 25 or so years we as the individuals can now respond and have our own voice in a faceless world community.

The consummer, little person, poor, slave, woman, black, whatever has always been told off for speaking in a less than perfect and and a rather impoverished voice.

Even those who are educated make us feel small.

But I do think it is our voice and I for one want to share it.

Community sometimes means we talk small. The benefits are though that the majority of the time we can make it work for most of us.

We could shut up. We could say nothing.

We could not care enough for our own beliefs.

But then I would not be able to tell you I think, at least in part you are right...

.. and you would not have been able to express what you thought.

For me to respect is also when you say something you feel to be true to me.

It is my opinion that respect must be learned.

Honest question:

Who teaches us this?

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It is my opinion that respect must be learned.

Honest question:

Who teaches us this?

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I'm speaking only to your "solution" quoted above, Rush.

What if nonetheless you are right in your interpretation? What if the further posts on the thread show that everyone else takes it that way too?

They won't. That post alone will give some of them a case of the red ass, and some of them will likely red x it. Classic.

Wait 24 hours, read it 1,000 times and seek some element of doubt? And if any doubt exists, don't respond?

Nope. Don't respond. Ever. Maybe PM them if you must.

What about the masters of innuendo, who post offending material repeatedly with ambiguity built-in for plausible deniablitlity? Ignore the innuendos cumulatively forever?

Yep. Ignore it. Forever. Forever and a day. Eternity.

I can see some posters manipulating for themselves a 24-hour flaming field-fest, if that were the general method of most posters.

Hence the dilemma, why it won't/can't be changed, and is a waste of time.

Post 'rationally' ie entirely without emotion at all times? That's difficult for we humans to do. I sense emotion in your post, for example. ;)

The emotion you read in my posts isn't directed at getting the posts of other people removed or edited. That emotion isn't part of getting anyone to change their tone or their posting style. My emotion isn't an attempt to control what others post and it doesn't drive me to use the red x. In short, it isn't simple emotion that matters, but the inability to control them and the resulting drive to post an endless parade of hypocritical Barbra Streisand.

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Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Clarify the "hypocritical Barbara Streisand" reference, please.

I have to go out for a while. I'll read and respond later tonight...or wait 24 hours, as the case may be. LOL

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Clarify the "hypocritical Barbara Streisand" reference, please.

I have to go out for a while. I'll read and respond later tonight...or wait 24 hours, as the case may be. LOL

Heh heh. 8^]

Barbra Streisand = BS. Bull S**t = BS.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

It is my opinion that respect must be learned.

Honest question:

Who teaches us this?

I like the cycle but I just feel it lacks us as the individual at the centre. It sort of says we need to care for others first.

For me respect isn't exclusive. It's not about how we treat others. It's about how we treat 'us' including ourselves.

I just think the greatest disrespect we can give is to ourselves. To disrespect others is just another part of disrespecting ourselves.

I am sure we can all learn to behaive well and give respect by routine but I hoped we were talking about something deeper than that. A kind of way of being.

I suspect like 'charity' respect begins at home.



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1. Please post your answer to the question only.
2. Please discuss differences of opinion via Private Mail or one of the MANY Cafe Threads.

Sorry Pawly.

I just realised I messed up again.

If you are doing a survey about those who can't follow the rules please add me as a naughty boy.

Sorry.

I'll be quite now :o)~

Please don't delete me.

Teach yourself to have a thick skin. You can always find a reason to be offended by anyone, the trick is to teach yourself to listen to or read criticism of your pet idea without reacting (emotionally or verbally) as if they were calling your baby ugly. Look for and respond to the underlying message, not the meaningless fluff surrounding it, however offensive, abusive, etc., you find that fluff. Besides, people who regularly throw intentionally provoking verbage out are usually trying to gain an advantage therby and most times are nonplussed when you give their gambit no response.

This is really hard to do sometimes, but it is an important skill to learn.

That's what I said in my former posts.

You always get what you give. Never expect people to respect you just because of a "higher" position. Respect the people and you are respected by them. It's as easy as it sounds. Love them first and they'll love you back, respect them first and they'll respect you back.

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The PM system has resulted in successes where people go back and edit their posts.

This is certainly true.

A quiet request, possibly with a brief reason, is much more likely to draw a positive and supportive response than being heavy.

That is human nature!

I can confirm, that, fairly recently I was asked politely by a Moderator, via PM, to amend a post. This I did. It would not be appropriate in all cases, but where it is, it can work well.

It does not have to be a mod, either. Posters PMing posters about it has had success. Not that certain people would be willing to acknowledge such a thing.

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Some further thoughts about the red x, Beets.

What it boils down to is that people want to control what others post. All that matters to them is what they feel about what others post. The posts may not be something they would post, and no one's forcing them to post that way--but that isn't enough for them. They have to try to make sure that no one else can post that way either.

You know, because somehow what they feel about what others post is far, far more important than expressing humor, or opinion, or anything else.

That's why I said that so many of them just want to meddle in the affairs of others. They are too emotional and they simply can't handle the idea that other people post things that, although they don't address the person or their posts, makes them cry, or hurts their precious feelings or eyes, and it bothers them.

That crap causes most of the problems here.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Some further thoughts about the red x, Beets.

What it boils down to is that people want to control what others post. All that matters to them is what they feel about what others post. The posts may not be something they would post, and no one's forcing them to post that way--but that isn't enough for them. They have to try to make sure that no one else can post that way either.

You know, because somehow what they feel about what others post is far, far more important than expressing humor, or opinion, or anything else.

That's why I said that so many of them just want to meddle in the affairs of others. They are too emotional and they simply can't handle the idea that other people post things that, although they don't address the person or their posts, makes them cry, or hurts their precious feelings or eyes, and it bothers them.

That crap causes most of the problems here.

Crap indeed. Didn't red X ya, dude.

Some further thoughts about the red x, Beets.

What it boils down to is that people want to control what others post. All that matters to them is what they feel about what others post. The posts may not be something they would post, and no one's forcing them to post that way--but that isn't enough for them. They have to try to make sure that no one else can post that way either.

You know, because somehow what they feel about what others post is far, far more important than expressing humor, or opinion, or anything else.

That's why I said that so many of them just want to meddle in the affairs of others. They are too emotional and they simply can't handle the idea that other people post things that, although they don't address the person or their posts, makes them cry, or hurts their precious feelings or eyes, and it bothers them.

That crap causes most of the problems here.

Crap indeed. Didn't red X ya, dude.

No worries, Mac. 8^]

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Some further thoughts about the red x, Beets.

What it boils down to is that people want to control what others post. All that matters to them is what they feel about what others post. The posts may not be something they would post, and no one's forcing them to post that way--but that isn't enough for them. They have to try to make sure that no one else can post that way either.

You know, because somehow what they feel about what others post is far, far more important than expressing humor, or opinion, or anything else.

That's why I said that so many of them just want to meddle in the affairs of others. They are too emotional and they simply can't handle the idea that other people post things that, although they don't address the person or their posts, makes them cry, or hurts their precious feelings or eyes, and it bothers them.

That crap causes most of the problems here.

Crap indeed. Didn't red X ya, dude.

No worries, Mac. 8^]

Just me being my normal paranoid self. Carry on, guys!

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That crap causes most of the problems here.

Crap indeed. Didn't red X ya, dude.

Shh,

I'm supposed to be being quiet here now but I didn't X-Red you either.

I'm emotional and would have made it obvious before hand if I wanted to get the police to take you down.


A song for you - Police & Thieves :o)



Psst.. I was never here.

(I only red-x my own threads and madulator posts.. Heheehe... Oh No. Shoot me.)