A show of hands, please, of all those who want to go to Cuba for their medical care. (LOL)

A show of hands, please, of all those who want to go to Cuba for their medical care. (LOL)

A show of hands, please, of all those who want to go to Cuba for their medical care. (LOL)

Couldn't be any worse, but it would be alot cheaper...

Michael Moore’s advice costly for taxpayers

By The Copenhagen Post
Published 20.08.07 14:00


Dozens of municipal politicians have used their city's funds to purchase tickets to a presentation by American documentary film director Michael Moore

It is doubtful that Michael Moore would approve of the way 70 Sønderborg city politicians and business people will use taxpayers’ kroner to attend his presentation next week at the Jutland city’s Alsion concert hall.

At DKK 1600 per person, the total for the big wigs’ night out comes to DKK 112,000. Sønderborg’s mayor, Jan Prokopek Jensen, said Moore’s presentation - which includes a viewing of his latest film about the American health care system, ‘Sicko’ - can be ‘inspirational’ for the city’s businesses and government.

The mayor’s take on the situation was supported by the public administration office of Region Southern Denmark, which supervises the region’s municipal governments.

‘We’ve looked at the purchase and cannot rule out that the arrangement may be relevant to Sønderborg municipality,’ office manager Nina Würtzen told public broadcaster DR.

Two years ago, the administrative office’s equivalent prior to the regional reorganisation decided that Sønderborg’s municipal employees and business persons could not use public funds to attend a Pavarotti concert.

The administration indicated that any arrangement where public funds are used must serve the needs of the community and not the individual, and it determined the concert - unlike a commentary about American health care - would be of no benefit to the city.

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My comment: The delusions continue. :-(

Canada's Expectant Moms Heading to U.S. to Deliver

Just more hypocrisy. As if they couldn't afford to pay these tickets themselves! ... And then excusing this robbery like "We are not guilty of spending tax money for private entertainment, it's Michael Moore who teaches us the way..."

I lot of health services are having trouble with Neo Natal care. I think it has more to do with the rise in premature births, multiple births (due to fertility treatments) and better treatments for premature babies that the way the Healthcare is funded.

Of course on the plus side those Canadians that were flown to US hosiptals actually had access to the healthcare however it was done. Whereas I understand that the main problem with US healthcare is that there would be babies that would simply not have access to the good quality healthcare at all if they were from poorer uninsured families. I believe the infant mortality rates bear this out.

I lot of health services are having trouble with Neo Natal care. I think it has more to do with the rise in premature births, multiple births (due to fertility treatments) and better treatments for premature babies that the way the Healthcare is funded.

But it all has to be funded. Thank GOD they have the U.S. system to bail them out. Oh, kinda like they have U.S. pharms to buy drugs, machines, and et cetera from. Whew.

Of course on the plus side those Canadians that were flown to US hosiptals actually had access to the healthcare however it was done. Whereas I understand that the main problem with US healthcare is that there would be babies that would simply not have access to the good quality healthcare at all if they were from poorer uninsured families. I believe the infant mortality rates bear this out.

Well let's see, the Wikster says the U.S. rate is 6.3 and the U.K. and America Jr. rates are 4.8 per 1000. 1.5 kids. So about one kid in 1000.

So given that the U.S. has 300 million people, which is 5 times the number that are in the U.K, and nearly 10 times the number that are in Canada, no, the numbers don't bear that out. Mostly because a country that dwarfs others by 5 times, 10 times, or in the case of Denmark (4.4/K) 60 TIMES, those differences aren't significant.

If these systems are soooooo wonderful and the U.S. system is soooooo crappy, you know, because "the main problem with US healthcare is that there would be babies that would simply not have access to the good quality healthcare at all if they were from poorer uninsured families," the numbers for a country that is 5, 10, or 60 times the size should not come anywhere close, but they do. The difference is negligible.

One could go a step farther and say that if the U.S. system is soooooo crappy because "babies...would simply not have access to the good quality healthcare at all if they were from poorer uninsured families," and since difference in the mortality rate in these other, substantially smaller, countries is negligible, then even with the massive burden of "free" health care, their care is no better than the U.S.

Yep, that's some awesome heath care you go there. Oh, and it's "free!" Heh.

I was talking about infant death rates among the poor.

Unlike you I measure cost in lives and suffering, not dollars.

Just more hypocrisy. As if they couldn't afford to pay these tickets themselves! ... And then excusing this robbery like "We are not guilty of spending tax money for private entertainment, it's Michael Moore who teaches us the way..."

One could argue that this is hypocrisy as well given that you regularly advocate taking more from individuals, leaving them with less, and giving these types of people more money and power.

Moore, of course, seems perfectly happy with his free market capitalism and the profits he's making off of globalization. Hmmmm. Anyone else see any irony there?

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

I was talking about infant death rates among the poor.

Maybe they should give up their cable and mobile phone service?

I was talking about infant death rates among the poor.

Maybe they should give up their cable and mobile phone service?

Cost of monthly cable TV service may be a little as about $40, cost of monthly cell phone service can be as little as about the same, so we may be dealing with oh, $100 a month (including taxes, etc). Cost of monthly health insurance premuim for a single person, anyone? For a family, anyone? I paid over $400/month for a single person 18 months ago (I was self employed at the time).

I was talking about infant death rates among the poor.

Maybe they should give up their cable and mobile phone service?

Cost of monthly cable TV service may be a little as about $40, cost of monthly cell phone service can be as little as about the same, so we may be dealing with oh, $100 a month (including taxes, etc). Cost of monthly health insurance premuim for a single person, anyone? For a family, anyone? I paid over $400/month for a single person 18 months ago (I was self employed at the time).

Hmmmm, interesting. How could that be? I mean the eeeevil multi-national corporations that think of nothing besides profit actually manage to provide extremely intricate electronic hard items to consumers at the price that they are willing to line up for? I wouldn't have thought it was possible. Especially since they give a LOT of it away for free for a contract plan...

I wonder what they could do with simple bulk items like pills and needles...

In actuality Bobby, I was just being sarcastic again. NHS has a budget of 80 billion or so, and there are 60 million or so of you. So that's 1350 pounds per month, or about 2700 dollars per month. Hardly a few pounds, even if the numbers are off by half, that's 675 pounds per month, or 1350 dollars per month.

The point being, that while you don't pay that directly, oh jeebus do you pay it indirectly in the price of everything else. Literally everything. Can you imagine what kind of insurance you could get in the U.S. for almost 3K per month?

There actually is nothing to really drive the costs down.

Especially since they give a LOT of it away for free for a contract plan...