this is a bit off/on topic but here go`s anyway ;)
Had an idea a few months ago,
Here we all are trying to find alien radio signals/aliens.
at least one ET has already been here,
I think its in Genesis.
If God was here before any of us, then God is an alien life form,
and if the bible is at least mostly true (the creation bit)
then to an extent all christians worship an ET.

Having typed this out is dosent look quite as good as it sounded back then.
we went on about it a lot longer.......
but I decided now is as good a time as any to inflict my idea
on an unsuspecting world.

If this sounds a load of !!*******? have a few pints,
and venture it to your freinds
but not if they run/work at a sanitorium........ :)


my 2p worth, now Ile shut up and let you all get on with the job.

Having first used an "Elliot 803" in 1976 if anyone evan bumped the ram cabinet (all 4kb of it -ferite matrix) or the temperature changed too quickly
it crashed.Hard drives weighed tons, literaly. gui was a telyprinter, programms on 5 track punched paper tape (and i`ve still got several yards of the stuf)
ahh memories......... #?&^%$"@#......

oops it!s 04:47 iv!e got to be up for work at 08:45 goodnight all
and best hope for a good day, for Mat and all.

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...the Devil made me do it!

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...the Devil made me do it!

Well... After all... He is your boss...

My boss grants me freewill... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

And Noodly too....

When you die, do you believe that you'll meet up with the rest of the noodles on the big meatball in the sky ? ;)

...that's as good as any other godhead...be sure to make offerings of burnt Alfredo sauce.

This is an artist's rendering. (no alfredo sauce though)

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...the Devil made me do it!

Well... After all... He is your boss...

My boss grants me freewill... ;)

True, anyone can make a fool of themselves...

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Dalai Lama - The Four Noble Truths:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXmdKWVirUA

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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

[b]The Fifth Noble Truth...banana splits are divine.

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:D

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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Appeals court OKs jury's use of Bible in death sentence

“He that smiteth a man, so that he dies, shall surely be put to death.”

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'Profound regret' expressed over Utah massacre
Mormon church leader stops short of apology

By Paul Foy
ASSOCIATED PRESS

September 12, 2007

SALT LAKE CITY – A ranking Mormon church official voiced regret yesterday for the massacre of 120 California-bound pioneers moving through Utah by wagon train, marking the 150th anniversary of the ambush.

Church Elder Henry B. Eyring of the Quorum of the Twelve, the second tier of leadership in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, addressed a memorial service attended by hundreds at Mountain Meadows, the massacre site, 35 miles northwest of St. George, Utah.

“We express profound regret for the massacre carried out in this valley 150 years ago today, and for the undue and untold suffering experienced by the victims then and by their relatives to the present time,” Eyring said.

On Sept. 11, 1857, the Arkansas emigrants were tricked into laying down their arms with a promise of safe passage and then killed for reasons not fully understood. The massacre occurred in a climate of war hysteria as Utah Mormons prepared for an invasion by federal troops sent to deal with a defiant Mormon theocracy under church president Brigham Young. Seventeen children, all 6 or younger, were spared.

Eyring's statement stopped short of making an apology – a word he didn't use, a church spokesman said. Nor did Eyring take responsibility on behalf of the church for the massacre. Instead, he blamed “local leaders” of the church in Cedar City, Utah, for taking matters into their own hands.

Eyring cited research by church historians that put the responsibility on the local leaders and others acting under their direction. He said Young tried to convey an order of protection for the wagon train by horseback, but the message didn't arrive in time.

Some characterized the statement as an apology or close to it.

“We don't use the word 'apology.' We used 'profound regret,' ” church spokesman Mark Tuttle told The Associated Press.

Eyring also expressed regret to Paiute Indians, “who have unjustly borne for too long the principal blame for what occurred during the massacre,” he said. “Although the extent of their involvement is disputed, it is believed they would not have participated without the direction and stimulus provided by local church leaders and members.”

Local Mormon leaders managed to enlist only a few Paiutes for the massacre, said Forest Cuch, executive director of the Utah Division of Indian Affairs.

“The LDS church has got to stop making that association. They're constantly associating the Mormon militia with the Indians. Instead, say there were 60 members of the Mormon militia and two Paiute Indians,” he told the Deseret Morning News.

The only person ever held accountable for the massacre was Mormon convert John D. Lee, a major in the Iron County Militia who was tried, convicted and executed at Mountain Meadows 20 years after the slaughter.

A bitter Lee considered himself a scapegoat for the church.

Descendants of the pioneers said Eyring's remarks came close to being an apology.

“He seemed to genuinely regret what happened – and that's more than we have gotten in the past,” Patty Norris, president of the group Mountain Meadows Massacre Descendants, said yesterday.

“He did point out church leaders were involved in the massacre – certainly people involved in the church. That's probably as far as he could go with it, and it's the first time the church admitted that,” said Norris, from rural Carroll County, Ark., where the wagon train originated.

“This is as close as we've ever gotten to an apology, so for the time being, we'll take it,” she said.

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That was alot quicker than it took the Catholic Church to denounce and apologize for antisemitism...centuries of pogroms...burning alive, etc. etc.

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God has been used in mysterious ways.

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The Bible PDF:

http://www.davince.com/download/kjvbible.pdf



Egyptian Book of the Dead 240 BC - PDF:

http://www.africawithin.com/kemit/Egyptian%20Book%20of%20the%20Dead.pdf



The Mathematical Miracle of the Quran:

http://www.exoticworldart.com/ufodbase/index.php?topic=110.0



The Book of Enoch - PDF:

http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/enoch.pdf



Mayan Book, Popol Vuh PDF:

http://www.freeserbia.net/Editorial/PopolVuh.pdf


Bhagavad-Geeta - PDF:

http://www.abuddhistlibrary.com/Buddhism/H%20-%20World%20Religions%20and%20Poetry/World%20Religions/From%20the%20Indian%20Tradition/Classic%20Texts/The%20Bhagavad%20Geeta/The%20Bhagavad-Geeta.pdf


Ramayana - PDF:

http://www.abuddhistlibrary.com/Buddhism/H%20-%20World%20Religions%20and%20Poetry/World%20Religions/From%20the%20Indian%20Tradition/Classic%20Texts/The%20Ramayana/The%20Ramayana.pdf


The Upanishad - PDF:

http://www.abuddhistlibrary.com/Buddhism/H%20-%20World%20Religions%20and%20Poetry/World%20Religions/From%20the%20Indian%20Tradition/Classic%20Texts/The%20Upanishads/The%20Upanishads.pdf


more soon...


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I'm really shocked! A Catholic bishop calls the Mormon Church President Hinckley a holy prophet of God!
:-D

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I'm really shocked! A Catholic bishop calls the Mormon Church President Hinckley a holy prophet of God!
:-D

That would make Pope John XXIII quite happy...some of his works are now bearing fruit.

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I'm really shocked! A Catholic bishop calls the Mormon Church President Hinckley a holy prophet of God!
:-D

That would make Pope John XXIII quite happy...some of his works are now bearing fruit.

Well, even Chrustchow stated about Pope John XXIII: "This Pope is a saint!"

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My Mom is Mormon so I got the chance to see what the church was all about.

Their history and creation are dubious to most but there support systems for members, and non members in need, far exceeds any other.

Great youth programs, senior programs, food programs, money giving, etc.

I met a lady once who asked me if the food growing and storing there of, for members and non members, could be considered hoarding.

I told her Vatican City was hoarding and the Mormon food program was giving.


She got so mad she couldn't see the difference, and walked away from me.


Going from cocky to angry took only a nanosecond.


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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

I just want to now how to get my hands on some of those sacred underpants.

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I did NOT authorize this belly writing!

I just want to now how to get my hands on some of those sacred underpants.

The Cloth of Turin?

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The Pope, Freud and SETI

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