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Message 571493 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 18:29:49 UTC - in response to Message 571456.  
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I leave Cafe moderation to those mods who hang around here.


Which must surely beg the question, why do you still be a mod if you have no real interest?


Chris, you might not know Pam, because she's not a Cafe regular, but she is very active on the NC board. And I think Pam is doing a great job there.



Thanks, Fuzzy. Yeah, I would say that's it, I'm at NC all the time and Questions and Answers some. But that would be a valid point, if one is a mod, should they patrol all the forums, or is it ok to just go to the ones they like and mod the problems they see?


That's what I did when I was a mod. I just stuck around here and took care of things as best I could.

I don't read the NC forums, so I didn't really feel " qualified " ( for lack of a better word ) to try to moderate there. I knew that there were mods who didn't bother themselves with the Cafe, but were quite active on the other forums. I just let them deal with things there.

As a matter of record, when I first became a mod, I was just about the only one who was willing to try to settle things here in the Cafe. I appreciate all who think I did a good job of it, and I respect those who think I was a bumbling fool.
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Message 571494 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 18:30:20 UTC - in response to Message 571482.  

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Just one small thing about us regular members. Are we not erreing if we do not tell a friend to cool it when he has a bad day and starts ranting against someone?

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OK... It was actually my last post so you caught me at the exact moment.

Cheers.



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Message 571502 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 18:35:58 UTC

In respect to the question of wether moderators can be members...

Yes, they can. All they really need to do is remember that they have to hold themselves to a higher standard as far as what they post.

A moderator must follow the rules more closely. They must never allow personal feelings to interfere with the repsonsibilities of the position. Some are better at it than others.

That does not mean that they cannot ( or shouldn't be allowed to ) contribute to the forums.
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Message 571510 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 18:37:45 UTC - in response to Message 571358.  

Can I ask all my fellow team members (TFFE) to vacate this thread.. I do so value your kinship but I chose my path regardless of the team..

You mean I have to quit TFFE in order to participate?

I suppose it would be easier to join BOINC Synergy. Then I wouldn't have to put up with as much nonsense.


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Message 571511 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 18:39:03 UTC - in response to Message 571494.  

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Just one small thing about us regular members. Are we not erreing if we do not tell a friend to cool it when he has a bad day and starts ranting against someone?

Another penny falling from the bald tree
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OK... It was actually my last post so you caught me at the exact moment.

Cheers.


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Message 571517 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 18:42:29 UTC - in response to Message 571513.  

In respect to the question of wether moderators can be members...

Yes, they can. All they really need to do is remember that they have to hold themselves to a higher standard as far as what they post.

A moderator must follow the rules more closely. They must never allow personal feelings to interfere with the repsonsibilities of the position. Some are better at it than others.

That does not mean that they cannot ( or shouldn't be allowed to ) contribute to the forums.


When this latest spat quietens down, as of course it will, I hope you'll consider thinking about coming back.


I seriously hope so, cRunchy-less days lack in shine.
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Message 571521 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 18:44:13 UTC

Being a moderator in another forum myself, and having been a chat-moderator in a forum where the users had several problems (while I had nothing but the title of a mod!), I think that it's quite easy to make mistakes in judging which intervention is needed, whether or not it's enough just to warn or calm down users, or if it's appropriate to remove posts - or the poster. It takes a lot of common sense, and a bit of empathy to see whether the post in question is just a slip because of a bad day, or usual behavior.
It is really easy to misjudge and there is a big responsility, and some mods may also take their powers too easy - though here I've had no reason to complain yet. Mods really have to balance it - on the one part also those who are mod want to have their fun, and some peaceful hours here, posting like everyone else; on the other side they have to react if there is something against the rules, immediately at best.
And then the discussions with the other mods and the users whether or not a reaction was appropriate - I rather do not want to be mod in such a huge forum like this one.
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Message 571522 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 18:44:15 UTC - in response to Message 571513.  

In respect to the question of wether moderators can be members...

Yes, they can. All they really need to do is remember that they have to hold themselves to a higher standard as far as what they post.

A moderator must follow the rules more closely. They must never allow personal feelings to interfere with the repsonsibilities of the position. Some are better at it than others.

That does not mean that they cannot ( or shouldn't be allowed to ) contribute to the forums.


When this latest spat quietens down, as of course it will, I hope you'll consider thinking about coming back.


I have been considering it, Chris.

I am just too busy with team and personal things to do it right now.

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Message 571527 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 18:46:27 UTC - in response to Message 571522.  

In respect to the question of wether moderators can be members...

Yes, they can. All they really need to do is remember that they have to hold themselves to a higher standard as far as what they post.

A moderator must follow the rules more closely. They must never allow personal feelings to interfere with the repsonsibilities of the position. Some are better at it than others.

That does not mean that they cannot ( or shouldn't be allowed to ) contribute to the forums.


When this latest spat quietens down, as of course it will, I hope you'll consider thinking about coming back.


I have been considering it, Chris.

I am just too busy with team and personal things to do it right now.


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I thought you where talking about cRunchys leaving.

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Message 571553 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 19:10:24 UTC
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cr.. & Demiurg.,

It is so nice to be amongst those who want you to be amongst them...

I'll see you both elsewhere on the forum as this thread was serious for me and I don't have anything more to add except to say I need our SETI mods'.

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Message 571554 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 19:11:44 UTC - in response to Message 571553.  


Chris S & Demiurg.,

It is so nice to be amongst those who want you to be amongst them...

I'll see you both elsewhere on the forum as this thread was serious for me and I don't have anything more to add except to say I need our SETI mods'.



See you witticisming in a thread near me:-)
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Message 571574 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 19:26:14 UTC - in response to Message 571502.  

In respect to the question of wether moderators can be members...

Yes, they can. All they really need to do is remember that they have to hold themselves to a higher standard as far as what they post.

A moderator must follow the rules more closely. They must never allow personal feelings to interfere with the repsonsibilities of the position. Some are better at it than others.

That does not mean that they cannot ( or shouldn't be allowed to ) contribute to the forums.

You are quite correct...
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Message 571578 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 19:30:07 UTC - in response to Message 571493.  

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As a matter of record, when I first became a mod, I was just about the only one who was willing to try to settle things here in the Cafe. I appreciate all who think I did a good job of it, and I respect those who think I was a bumbling fool.

I for one felt you did a good and fair job of moderating. But, that is just my opinion, for what it is worth.

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Message 571604 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 20:07:17 UTC

The current moderators were chosen at least in part because they were active participants in the boards. Therefore, it appears that the policy of the administration is that the moderators be active participants in the boards as well as being moderators.


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Message 571611 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 20:13:52 UTC - in response to Message 571604.  

The current moderators were chosen at least in part because they were active participants in the boards. Therefore, it appears that the policy of the administration is that the moderators be active participants in the boards as well as being moderators.

Thats True John, But some have a pattern of just posting
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Message 571625 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 20:26:06 UTC - in response to Message 571620.  

The current moderators were chosen at least in part because they were active participants in the boards. Therefore, it appears that the policy of the administration is that the moderators be active participants in the boards as well as being moderators.

Thats True John, But some have a pattern of just posting
to make their presence known....Feels like Mommy is
watching us all the time...


Yes, just as last year about this time, doesn't it?



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Message 571641 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 20:35:12 UTC - in response to Message 571629.  

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... yet now as a mod I must censor myself on a daily basis from what I desire to say. Many members think it's easy to be a moderator, that they could do it better and make things more fun for everyone. What they fail to realize is as a moderator things will be less fun for themselves.

I second that :|
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Message 571680 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 21:01:51 UTC

I think that any posts deleted should be ratified and agreed by another moderator, and that other moderators agreement be issued to the offender, to stop deleting of posts based on moderator's personal (wrong) opinion rather than the breaking of published rules.


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Message 571852 - Posted: 19 May 2007, 23:57:06 UTC

A few valid points were made in this thread. However, it devolved into flames. This thread is closed. Any follow on threads will be deleted.


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