It's shorthand for God (Father), Jesus (Son) and Holy Spirit.

Matthew 28:19

Romans 16:26
to the only wise God be glory for evermore through Jesus Christ! Amen.

Oops... Did someone forget to mention the third part of the 'trinity' here? ;)

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You're taking a long time page flipping. Might I suggest biblegateway.com

I have much better tools at my disposal... ;)

You mean like Logos or Bibleworks?
I have the magic 8-ball at my disposal.

Personally, I prefer "The Magic Conch".

I've never heard a Catholic pray: "Our Jesus, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name..."

Catholic basher.

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Genesis chapter 1 verse 26

Then God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, in OUR likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Now unless he was talking about his lodge brothers at the Loyal Order of Waterbuffaloes....

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Genesis chapter 1 verse 26

Then God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, in OUR likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Now unless he was talking about his lodge brothers at the Loyal Order of Waterbuffaloes....

So sayeth the Lord(s)!

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Genesis chapter 1 verse 26

Then God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, in OUR likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Now unless he was talking about his lodge brothers at the Loyal Order of Waterbuffaloes....

So sayeth the Lord(s)!

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You're taking a long time page flipping. Might I suggest biblegateway.com

I have much better tools at my disposal... ;)

You mean like Logos or Bibleworks?
I have the magic 8-ball at my disposal.

Personally, I prefer "The Magic Conch".

No matter where you are you can always hear the holy ocean.

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Genesis chapter 1 verse 26
Then God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, in OUR likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Qur'an 50:38
WE created the heavens and the earth and all between them in Six Days, nor did any sense of weariness touch US.

Qur'an 20:55
From the (earth) did WE create you, and into it shall WE return you, and from it shall WE bring you out once again.

Qur'an 2:35
WE said: "O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as (where and when) ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression."


God always refers to Himself in the plural. It does not indicate plural of number but plural of respect... ;)

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Genesis chapter 1 verse 26
Then God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, in OUR likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Qur'an 50:38
WE created the heavens and the earth and all between them in Six Days, nor did any sense of weariness touch US.

Qur'an 20:55
From the (earth) did WE create you, and into it shall WE return you, and from it shall WE bring you out once again.

Qur'an 2:35
WE said: "O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as (where and when) ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression."


God always refers to Himself in the plural. It does not indicate plural of number but plural of respect... ;)

How do you know? Did he tell you? Or are you assuming? Seems to me that NO ONE knows for sure and the only way to find out is to die and HOPEFULLY ascend.

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How do you know? Did he tell you? Or are you assuming?

Basic Hebrew and Arabic grammar... I never assume anything... ;)

('pluralis majestatis', 'majestic plural', also known as the 'royal we')

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How do you know? Did he tell you? Or are you assuming? Seems to me that NO ONE knows for sure and the only way to find out is to die and HOPEFULLY ascend.

Interesting there wasn't any christian biblical quoting there.

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I never assume anything... ;)

Yet you assumed this. Nay you expected it.

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How do you know? Did he tell you? Or are you assuming?

Basic Hebrew and Arabic grammar... I never assume anything... ;)

('pluralis majestatis', 'majestic plural', also known as the 'royal we')

I'm afraid sir that you ARE assuming, as that is not proof of intent. If you don't like the word assume you may supplement "interpreting". In other words, you may be right or you may be wrong.

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Jeffery, reading your style of writing and examples you like to use I must ask you, are you a Mormon?

If he is Mormon, he is most incredibly ignorant on the subject of the tenets of his own faith.

When one goes back to the original Hebrew and Arabic scripture, the words are clearly plural... This is never disputed... However, coupled with the fact that all of the messengers and prophets of the Torah the Gospel and the Qur'an were teaching the same monotheistic religion, It befuddles me as to how anyone could possibly believe that the oneness of God is polytheistic...

Not to mention, the trinity concept came about long after Jesus delivered the Gospels, making it nothing more than a product of mans interpretation...

From Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary:

Trinity:
A word not found in Scripture, but used to express the doctrine of the unity of God as subsisting in three distinct Persons. This word is derived from the Gr. trias, first used by Theophilus (A.D. 168-183), or from the Lat. trinitas, first used by Tertullian (A.D. 220), to express this doctrine. The propositions involved in the doctrine are these: 1. That God is one, and that there is but one God (Deut. 6:4; 1 Kings 8:60; Isa. 44:6; Mark 12:29, 32; John 10:30). 2. That the Father is a distinct divine Person (hypostasis, subsistentia, persona, suppositum intellectuale), distinct from the Son and the Holy Spirit. 3. That Jesus Christ was truly God, and yet was a Person distinct from the Father and the Holy Spirit. 4. That the Holy Spirit is also a distinct divine Person.

1. That God is one, and that there is but one God. (ok)
2. That the Father is a distinct divine Person, distinct from the Son and the Holy Spirit. (ok)
3. That Jesus Christ was truly God, and yet was a Person distinct from the Father and the Holy Spirit. (*)
4. That the Holy Spirit is also a distinct divine Person. (ok)

* If this isn't 'WordWeaving', I don't know what is... Anyone care to explain this complex equation using sound scripture? ;)

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God, Jesus and Holy Spirit
..........or...........
Mind, Body and Soul

They are one and the same. A single God. I honestly don't expect to change your mind and I don't have the inclination to search the bible for proofs. I do however find it quite sad that you look for proof to justify faith.

You participate in this project and therefore show faith in the existance of alien intelligence, yet there is NO PROOF of that. So why is it that you need proof of the Holy Trinity and cannot simply have faith that it exists? Seems like a double standard. Also, why is it that you didn't answer Misfit's question about the doctorine that you subscribe too? It would be easier to understand where you are coming from with your arguments. As it stands you come off (to me atleast) as an atheist. I hope that this isn't true because then I would truly feel I have wasted my time.

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Catechism of the Catholic Church

PART ONE: THE PROFESSION OF FAITH
SECTION TWO I. THE CREEDS
CHAPTER TWO I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY SON OF GOD
Article 3 "HE WAS CONCEIVED BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND WAS BORN OF THE VIRGIN MARY"
Paragraph 1. THE SON OF GOD BECAME MAN
III. TRUE GOD AND TRUE MAN

464 The unique and altogether singular event of the Incarnation of the Son of God does not mean that Jesus Christ is part God and part man, nor does it imply that he is the result of a confused mixture of the divine and the human. He became truly man while remaining truly God. Jesus Christ is true God and true man.

During the first centuries, the Church had to defend and clarify this truth of faith against the heresies that falsified it.

IN BRIEF

480 Jesus Christ is true God and true man, in the unity of his divine person; for this reason he is the one and only mediator between God and men.

481 Jesus Christ possesses two natures, one divine and the other human, not confused, but united in the one person of God's Son.

482 Christ, being true God and true man, has a human intellect and will, perfectly attuned and subject to his divine intellect and divine will, which he has in common with the Father and the Holy Spirit.

483 The Incarnation is therefore the mystery of the wonderful union of the divine and human natures in the one person of the Word.

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