"The rich" are "the rich" because they do not let a single penny out of their grasp that they are not forced to.

Which is EXACTLY why the rich don't need tax breaks...

It won't go towards creating jobs, it will only go towards a new summer home in the Bahamas...

Tax the rich and help the poor... THAT is the reason why the tax system was created... ;)

Have you ever been to school? That statement is so wrong I don't know where to start. Check out a High School US Government text and learn the basics so that we can have an actual discussion. At this point, you do not have enough knowledge to understand any comments I make on the subject.

"The rich" are "the rich" because they do not let a single penny out of their grasp that they are not forced to.

Which is EXACTLY why the rich don't need tax breaks...
It won't go towards creating jobs, it will only go towards a new summer home in the Bahamas...
Tax the rich and help the poor... THAT is the reason why the tax system was created... ;)

What is a Communist?
One who has yearnings
To share equal profits from unequal earnings
Be he idler or bungler, - or both
He is willing
To give you his sixpence and pocket your shilling.

Are you a communist, Jeffrey?

All about taxes:

- to redistribute resources between individuals or classes in the population. Historically, the nobility were supported by taxes on the poor; modern social security systems are intended to support the poor, the disabled or the retired by taxes on those who are still working,

So historically:

Taxes were established to support the rich...

Social security was established to support the poor...

Hmm... No wonder taxes keep going up and social security keeps going down... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

Karl Marx

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II Thessalonians 3:10

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

And for the record:

This verse is referring to the people who 'refuse' to work (the rich and the slothful), not the people who are not 'allowed' to work (the poor and the blacklisted)... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

wow things can get a bit deep around here! And quick!
I have lived a life where my needs far outstrip my means to earn, so, Hev, I think that going by your Karl Marx dictum, you should dig deep and help me make ends meet.
You have NO idea how much the price of Jet-A has increased over the last 2 years. I NEED that to get to Virgin Gorda.
[edit] ... and I have NO ability to 'give' ... so 'from' me equals zero!

And no one who volunteered to enlist or receive a commission since the first Gulf War, more than 15 years ago, has had any illusions about joining the armed services as a safe, cushy sinecure.

Sweeping generalization. Please direct us to the census (not survey) that indicates this. Proof, please! :)

Sarge, come on! Every sailor, soldier and marine in our armed services either volunteered to enlist or voluntarily received a commission. Every single one. No exceptions. There are no longer any serving that were drafted and decided to make a career out of the military.

The statement was not a sweeping generalization, it was the simple truth.

Even though you were kidding, there are enough people in our country and around the world who do not realize this that I answered as if you were asking seriously anyway.

No, it was meant honestly and I was not questioning you on it being voluntary, I was questioning you on whether every member of our U.S. military over the past 15-16 years truly, deeply understands what they're getting themselves into when the enlist.

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.

Why aren't YOU providing jobs for these people?

Because we are being screwed by the rich and can't afford to?

Thank you Es... I'm still confused as to why he's so persistent in asking such a silly question... ;)

I'm not asking a silly question. I'm persistent in order to highlight your evasiveness.

Let's see, I'll ask it another way, more specifically.

How has Oprah or Barbra Streisand or Noamy or Michael Moore skrewed you? How are they keepin' you down, under their thumb? I mean, they're all exceedingly rich people--how are they skrewing you?

And to be clear, Jeffrey, why wouldn't you pay someone $500 to mow the lawn? Or, how about this, GM CLOSED a plant, they want nothing more to do with it, or the employees that worked there. Why exactly is it that the autoworkers union doesn't take those very same workers (or, why don't those very same workers) just operate it themselves? It's a very simple question. How is Oprah keeping you from running that plant? How is GM doing so?

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

Karl Marx

Boy, that sure works out well everywhere it's been tried.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Because we are being screwed by the rich and can't afford to?

Say for the sake of argument that's true.

How exactly did they skrew you? Did you buy your computer because they forced you? Or because it was worth more to you than the money you spent on it? Does Oprah point a gun in your face to watch her show? Does Nigella Lawson send her thugs out to fix yer hash if you don't buy Nigella Bites? Alan Rickman trips you on your way to work and takes your wallet?

You see, the "rich" can't skrew you. Well, unless they have the force of gov't behind them.

Oh, here's an idea, maybe the rich begged the gov't to pass some laws to skrew you? You know, 'cause anyone can beg the gov't to use force against another, since gov't isn't guided by rational principle. Which again, illustrates my point.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

How exactly did they skrew you?

They created a capitalistic world, and then decided not to share their capital... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

How exactly did they skrew you?

They created a capitalistic world, and then decided not to share their capital... ;)

And where did that original capital come from? I mean, who "share[d]" capital with "them" when there was none? Hint: use the word "create."

However, as usual, you are just evading the question.

How did Oprah skrew you, Jeffrey? How is Michael Moore keeping you down?

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

Karl Marx

Boy, that sure works out well everywhere it's been tried.

Tell me where that has been tried Rush.
Oh and Alan Rickman can trip me up and take my wallet anytime.

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"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

Karl Marx

You do realize, don't you, that every time this philosophy has been tried as a system of governance, in all of recorded history, it has failed miserably?

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

Karl Marx

Boy, that sure works out well everywhere it's been tried.

Tell me where that has been tried Rush.
Oh and Alan Rickman can trip me up and take my wallet anytime.

Hev, let me give you the short list:
USSR, China, Albania, Cuba, oh hell, just include all former and existing communist polities.

And before you start, NO, China is not "communist" in the Karl Marx sense of the term, it (and for the record, every other surviving polity calling itself "communist") it is an oligarchy.

Tell me where that has been tried Rush.

Beyond the places that Bill mentioned, the DPRK comes to mind. You know, where everyone knows that the bit of dog meat here and there is actually human...

Oh and Alan Rickman can trip me up and take my wallet anytime.

I know what you mean. Nigella could just crush me and I wouldn't mind. She could have my wallet, keys, mobile, everything. I feel like Calvin and Hobbes. >pant< 8^]

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

They created a capitalistic world, and then decided not to share their capital... ;)

I am well and truly amazed buy this particular statement! ANYONE in this country who has any drive to make something of themselves, can succeed exceedingly well under our capitalistic society. There are NO boundaries made upon anyone who lives here. There is NO Caste system here, contrary to what many people would have you believe. If you WANT to be successful, it shall come to pass. More than 92% of the Millionaires alive in the US right now, are self made men and women! They DID NOT inherit their wealth, they EARNED it the hard way. WORK! And just so you are informed, 90% of the funds given to charities, benevolent work, schools, etc. are given by the RICH! I fail to see where your statement fits into that scenario?

I will say this; We DO have the poor with us in our country. The ones I do not admire nor give solice to, are the IDLE poor. Many of the poorest people in the US went on to become many of those Millionaires I was telling you about earlier!

I think the people I dislike the most, are those that whimper and carryon about how badly everyone else treats them. People cannot hurt you unless you let them.






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There are NO boundaries made upon anyone who lives here.

I wouldn't bet on that...

The fact is that 90 percent of the wealth in this country is held by 10 percent of the population... Without their 'approval', you don't advance... Very few have come up with ideas or inventions to defeat that system, and even fewer have 'worked' there way to the top... @ 5 bucks per hour, there just aren't enough hours in the day to make that amount to anything... Poor people don't ever get rich without the help of someone who is already rich... Crunch the numbers, you'll see, it doesn't add up... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

How exactly did they skrew you?

They created a capitalistic world, and then decided not to share their capital... ;)

And where did that original capital come from? I mean, who "share[d]" capital with "them" when there was none? Hint: use the word "create."

However, as usual, you are just evading the question.

How did Oprah skrew you, Jeffrey? How is Michael Moore keeping you down?

The original wealth was 'created' by paying people as little as they could for their labour and skill. In this the way the wealth gets funneled upwards.

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Reality Internet Personality

Poor people don't ever get rich without the help of someone who is already rich... Crunch the numbers, you'll see, it doesn't add up... ;)

You do seem to deal in general platitudes.
People DO get rich if they use their god-given brains.
It is only the idle who prefer to have someone else do it for them that complain like you do.

Just recently, AK Rowling became fabulously wealthy ... without ANY help from ANYONE.

I think you ought to stop posting here, get off your backside and do some work. Use your brain - there are thousands of ideas out there waiting to be discovered.

I am amazed that so many of you here spend so much time complaining and not DOING!