Well, I had a big long argument with myself about whether or not I should start this discussion. There are those here who smoke it. There are those here who think it's evil. There are those here that think it's all right for people to use. There are people here who base their opinions on the laughable US War on Drugs...... Here's my short-version take:

Anything addictive is bad for you, since addiction is always bad, regardless of the subject of addiction. Tobacco is addictive. Alcohol can be addictive. Therefore, tobacco is "bad", and alcohol can be "bad". Marijuana is not addictive, therefore, for the purposes of this argument, it is not "bad".

The more harmful a substance is for you, the "more bad" it is. Tobacco smoke is full of carcinogens and chemicals such as tar that pollute the lungs. It is also addictive, leading the user to continue to ingest more and more of these chemicals. Therefore, tobacco is "very bad" for you. Alcohol is literally a poison to your body. This toxin can easily be overdosed on, does a real number on your liver with overuse, and is responsible for millions of deaths every year worldwide. Therefore, alcohol is "very bad" for you. Marijuana smoke contains far less carcinogens than tobacco smoke. All byproducts of combustion are ingested in common with cigarettes. However, using a bong can reduce the levels of water-soluble substances in the smoke. Ingesting marijuana within food or using a vaporizer to ingest the THC pretty much eliminates ingestion of any harmful carcinogens. You can also not overdose on marijuana. Therefore, I say marijuana is "less bad than tobacco", and "less bad than alcohol".

The more reasonable of us (and that's of course my opinion) realize that the fact Cannabis is illegal when alcohol and tobacco are not is laughable. I'd like to hear people's opinions of course, but one question I'm really curious to hear answers to is this: If forced to choose, would you choose to legalize Cannabis, or de-legalize tobacco and alcohol.

Looking forward to some discussion on this.....

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Looking forward to some discussion on this.....

As you know, Jeff, we're moving in Canada towards "decriminalizing" marihuana. Most of us who were young in the '60s always thought it was a shame that some people had criminal records for simple possession of marihuna.

I'd rather see small monetary fines for simple possession. I don't think I want to see it fully legalized. If it's legalized, big tobacco-style companies will load all the legal marihuana with carcinogens and poisons, just to boost the THC delivery systems to make people addicted to it. That's what they did with your plain old tobacco leaf.

But I don't want to see people going to jail for possession, and I'd like to see the police stop making an industry out of boosting their statistics with their War on Drugs against ordinary citizens.

So, I have mixed feelings about this topic. I'd like us to change the laws steadily but carefully, and not rush through huge changes before we've had a chance to see what loosening the laws gradually will do for and against us.

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Looking forward to some discussion on this.....

As you know, Jeff, we're moving in Canada towards "decriminalizing" marihuana. Most of us who were young in the '60s always thought it was a shame that some people had criminal records for simple possession of marihuna.

I'd rather see small monetary fines for simple possession. I don't think I want to see it fully legalized. If it's legalized, big tobacco-style companies will load all the legal marihuana with carcinogens and poisons, just to boost the THC delivery systems to make people addicted to it. That's what they did with your plain old tobacco leaf.

But I don't want to see people going to jail for possession, and I'd like to see the police stop making an industry out of boosting their statistics with their War on Drugs against ordinary citizens.

So, I have mixed feelings about this topic. I'd like us to change the laws steadily but carefully, and not rush through huge changes before we've had a chance to see what loosening the laws gradually will do for and against us.

Well, legalizing mary jane is probably safer than legalizing alcohol (another drug).

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Sorrry I just couldn't help myself.

I have no problem with Cannabis, I do however have a problem with our youth who start on it and then they are exposed to harder drugs... I think thats the real
problem. I if was legal the the exposure to the criminal element would be reduced
to a minimim...

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I have no problem with Cannabis, I do however have a problem with our youth who start on it and then they are exposed to harder drugs... I think thats the real
problem. I if was legal the the exposure to the criminal element would be reduced
to a minimim...

When it comes to people being sick and addicted, ruining their health and burdening the costs of public healthcare, lost productivity, transportation accidents...it really doesn't help to legalize it.

We have legalized gambling now in Canada and the United States, and it's cut a wide swath of personal and family tragedy affecting millions of homes.

If you legalize it, you have to spend a large percentage of the tax proceeds on education and rehabillitation. These are potentially addictive vices...we're not talking ice cream here.

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Well, I had a big long argument with myself about whether or not I should start this discussion. There are those here who smoke it. There are those here who think it's evil. There are those here that think it's all right for people to use. There are people here who base their opinions on the laughable US War on Drugs...... Here's my short-version take:

Anything addictive is bad for you, since addiction is always bad, regardless of the subject of addiction. Tobacco is addictive. Alcohol can be addictive. Therefore, tobacco is "bad", and alcohol can be "bad". Marijuana is not addictive, therefore, for the purposes of this argument, it is not "bad".

The more harmful a substance is for you, the "more bad" it is. Tobacco smoke is full of carcinogens and chemicals such as tar that pollute the lungs. It is also addictive, leading the user to continue to ingest more and more of these chemicals. Therefore, tobacco is "very bad" for you. Alcohol is literally a poison to your body. This toxin can easily be overdosed on, does a real number on your liver with overuse, and is responsible for millions of deaths every year worldwide. Therefore, alcohol is "very bad" for you. Marijuana smoke contains far less carcinogens than tobacco smoke. All byproducts of combustion are ingested in common with cigarettes. However, using a bong can reduce the levels of water-soluble substances in the smoke. Ingesting marijuana within food or using a vaporizer to ingest the THC pretty much eliminates ingestion of any harmful carcinogens. You can also not overdose on marijuana. Therefore, I say marijuana is "less bad than tobacco", and "less bad than alcohol".

The more reasonable of us (and that's of course my opinion) realize that the fact Cannabis is illegal when alcohol and tobacco are not is laughable. I'd like to hear people's opinions of course, but one question I'm really curious to hear answers to is this: If forced to choose, would you choose to legalize Cannabis, or de-legalize tobacco and alcohol.

Looking forward to some discussion on this.....

Hydroponic ganja, if not flushed with water four weeks before harvesting, is addictive and probably causes schizophrenia.

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Sorrry I just couldn't help myself.

I have no problem with Cannabis, I do however have a problem with our youth who start on it and then they are exposed to harder drugs... I think thats the real
problem. I if was legal the the exposure to the criminal element would be reduced
to a minimim...

Kinda like Alcohol...

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And by the by, in my experience, as well as my friends, pot is psychologically addictive.

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And by the by, in my experience, as well as my friends, pot is psychologically addictive.

is it similar to alcohols physical addiction?

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You want to see paranoia, then talk to someone who has smoked maj for many years.

And by the by, in my experience, as well as my friends, pot is psychologically addictive.

is it similar to alcohols physical addiction?

I'm not really sure, try Wikipedia. I only smoke on the weekends now, but I am planning to quit since it also makes me smoke ciggies.

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And by the by, in my experience, as well as my friends, pot is psychologically addictive.

is it similar to alcohols physical addiction?

I'm not really sure, try Wikipedia. I only smoke on the weekends now, but I am planning to quit since it also makes me smoke ciggies.

before weed, what did you do?

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And by the by, in my experience, as well as my friends, pot is psychologically addictive.

is it similar to alcohols physical addiction?

I'm not really sure, try Wikipedia. I only smoke on the weekends now, but I am planning to quit since it also makes me smoke ciggies.

before weed, what did you do?

(Michael Buckingham)

I started getting into pubs at 15. But what made me really consider trying weed when was when my brother told me he was stoned. Since he wasn't stark raving mad as a result, but simply very relaxed, I decided I would try it when the opportunity arose. Which was in my third year at Uni.

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And by the by, in my experience, as well as my friends, pot is psychologically addictive.

is it similar to alcohols physical addiction?

I'm not really sure, try Wikipedia. I only smoke on the weekends now, but I am planning to quit since it also makes me smoke ciggies.

before weed, what did you do?

(Michael Buckingham)

I started getting into pubs at 15. But what made me really consider trying weed when was when my brother told me he was stoned. Since he wasn't stark raving mad as a result, but simply very relaxed, I decided I would try it when the opportunity arose. Which was in my third year at Uni.

So you actually started on Alcohol then moved to weed...(what everyone else does actually).

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And by the by, in my experience, as well as my friends, pot is psychologically addictive.

is it similar to alcohols physical addiction?

I'm not really sure, try Wikipedia. I only smoke on the weekends now, but I am planning to quit since it also makes me smoke ciggies.

before weed, what did you do?

(Michael Buckingham)

I started getting into pubs at 15. But what made me really consider trying weed when was when my brother told me he was stoned. Since he wasn't stark raving mad as a result, but simply very relaxed, I decided I would try it when the opportunity arose. Which was in my third year at Uni.

So you actually started on Alcohol then moved to weed...(what everyone else does actually).

Not really. I clearly remember when a child being scared of going mad if I were to try any illicit drugs, but when my brother seemed fine after some maj I instantly realised the Government had been lying to me. Still, I don't think Australia will ever legalise it, and I am still on track to behave more legally co-operative re the law here.

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And by the by, in my experience, as well as my friends, pot is psychologically addictive.

is it similar to alcohols physical addiction?

I'm not really sure, try Wikipedia. I only smoke on the weekends now, but I am planning to quit since it also makes me smoke ciggies.

before weed, what did you do?

(Michael Buckingham)

I started getting into pubs at 15. But what made me really consider trying weed when was when my brother told me he was stoned. Since he wasn't stark raving mad as a result, but simply very relaxed, I decided I would try it when the opportunity arose. Which was in my third year at Uni.

So you actually started on Alcohol then moved to weed...(what everyone else does actually).

Not really. I clearly remember when a child being scared of going mad if I were to try any illicit drugs, but when my brother seemed fine after some maj I instantly realised the Government had been lying to me. Still, I don't think Australia will ever legalise it, and I am still on track to behave more legally co-operative re the law here.

When was your first drink?

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And by the by, in my experience, as well as my friends, pot is psychologically addictive.

is it similar to alcohols physical addiction?

I'm not really sure, try Wikipedia. I only smoke on the weekends now, but I am planning to quit since it also makes me smoke ciggies.

before weed, what did you do?

(Michael Buckingham)

I started getting into pubs at 15. But what made me really consider trying weed when was when my brother told me he was stoned. Since he wasn't stark raving mad as a result, but simply very relaxed, I decided I would try it when the opportunity arose. Which was in my third year at Uni.

So you actually started on Alcohol then moved to weed...(what everyone else does actually).

Not really. I clearly remember when a child being scared of going mad if I were to try any illicit drugs, but when my brother seemed fine after some maj I instantly realised the Government had been lying to me. Still, I don't think Australia will ever legalise it, and I am still on track to behave more legally co-operative re the law here.

When was your first drink?

(Michael Buckingham)

My first drink was at the age of twelve. In Ireland, when my family briefly returned home there.

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Well, I believe that one's body belongs to oneself...and any law opposing that premise violates that presumption. I shouldn't need to be long winded given the ideas involved. So I'll just say that since you belong to yourself, anything you wish or choose to put into your body is your own business. You are the owner of your body and are free to dispose of it, use it, or pursue a course with it so long as you don't violate another's rights in the process. It's not a hard concept to understand. It's difficult for the statists that wish to use force and force their will upon mankind though....

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Well, I believe that one's body belongs to oneself...and any law opposing that premise violates that premise. I shouldn't need to be long winded given the premises involved. So I'll just say that since you belong to yourself, anything you wish or choose to put into your body is your own business.

Unitl you're forced to go out and do things to feed a nasty addiction...not necessarily cannabis, but other things...therein you logic is faulty. Your body is your own, but what your mind makes the body do to others is another matter entirely...just ask a heroin addict.

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Well, I believe that one's body belongs to oneself...and any law opposing that premise violates that premise. I shouldn't need to be long winded given the premises involved. So I'll just say that since you belong to yourself, anything you wish or choose to put into your body is your own business.

Unitl you're forced to go out and do things to feed a nasty addiction...not necessarily cannabis, but other things...therein you logic is faulty. Your body is your own, but what your mind makes the body do to others is another matter entirely...just ask a heroin addict.

How is my logic faulty? I adhere to my main premise that a person's body belongs to oneself. It may be bad or good in the outcome, but that idea is not dependent upon your observations or conclusions. I merely posit that one's body is within one's realm of authority for decisions such as these things. I do not advocate use of drugs or excesses of wine or whatnot. What I DO ADVOCATE is the authority of the individual to choose these things for him/her self within the context of a free enviornment where the possible detriments of said behavior do not end up necessitating imposed obligations upon the otherwise well behaved neighbors.

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Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data!
I did NOT authorize this belly writing!