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Message 295593 - Posted: 5 May 2006, 3:40:40 UTC - in response to Message 295544.  

You need to go back far enough into the days of the original shunned one.

Thanks Misfit... I do believe I owe Tom an apology...

We all know what usually happens when one assumes, but in this case, it would seem as though I've made an a$$ out of me and only me...

Maybe you could slip this past Tom's filter for me... ;)
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Message 295597 - Posted: 5 May 2006, 3:54:34 UTC - in response to Message 295593.  

You need to go back far enough into the days of the original shunned one.

Thanks Misfit... I do believe I owe Tom an apology...

We all know what usually happens when one assumes, but in this case, it would seem as though I've made an a$$ out of me and only me...

Maybe you could slip this past Tom's filter for me... ;)

I have nothing to do with his filter selection. lSo that would be up to Tom. :)
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Message 295648 - Posted: 5 May 2006, 5:15:16 UTC - in response to Message 295597.  
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Maybe you could slip this past Tom's filter for me...

Methinks you've accomplished the mission... ;)
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Message 296518 - Posted: 5 May 2006, 18:41:01 UTC
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So I got up this morning and found Jeffrey's apology. I never thought this would happen, but I am impressed that it did. That said, I have some thoughts:

@Jeffrey,

The reason I placed you on ignore in the first place had little to do with the fact that you have, for months, directed insulting and false accusations toward me and others in this and other threads. It was based more on your inability to discuss, in a meaningful way, what others were discussing.

I don't think citing passages of whatever book you may have read is valid or worthy of my attention. I observed that you failed, most of the time, to say anything about what you think these things you cited shoud mean--to you. It's one thing to say, "I feel this way after reading this information because . . ."; but it's quite another thing to simply cite a passage and expect others to come to the same conclusion as you.

Why should anyone, with different life experiences than yours, come to the same conclusions as you? People disagree with me all the time, and that's OK. As long as disagreement comes from thoughtful analysis rather than from blindly following someone else's thoughts, it is perfectly fine that people come to different conclusions. Often, there is more than one solution.

I enjoy taking part in the many discussions here regarding religion, politics, or any of the fun topics (even though I avoid certain threads). But I have no patience for disruptive or non-productive posters. I'm taking you off ignore, but whether I respond to you is up to you.

[Edit]: Sorry about the preaching, but this is the Religious Thread.
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Message 303538 - Posted: 12 May 2006, 21:46:06 UTC - in response to Message 296518.  
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So I got up this morning and found Jeffrey's apology. I never thought this would happen, but I am impressed that it did.

Maybe someday someone will impress me...

That said, I have some thoughts: [Blah, blah, blah, snip...]

You might want to go ahead and put me back on filter Tom... ;)
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Message 303627 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 0:12:12 UTC - in response to Message 303538.  

So I got up this morning and found Jeffrey's apology. I never thought this would happen, but I am impressed that it did.
Maybe someday someone will impress me....
If you're looking for an apology of some kind from me, please point out what I have to apologise for.

That said, I have some thoughts:

@Jeffrey,

The reason I placed you on ignore in the first place had little to do with the fact that you have, for months, directed insulting and false accusations toward me and others in this and other threads. It was based more on your inability to discuss, in a meaningful way, what others were discussing.

I don't think citing passages of whatever book you may have read is valid or worthy of my attention. I observed that you failed, most of the time, to say anything about what you think these things you cited shoud mean--to you. It's one thing to say, "I feel this way after reading this information because . . ."; but it's quite another thing to simply cite a passage and expect others to come to the same conclusion as you.

Why should anyone, with different life experiences than yours, come to the same conclusions as you? People disagree with me all the time, and that's OK. As long as disagreement comes from thoughtful analysis rather than from blindly following someone else's thoughts, it is perfectly fine that people come to different conclusions. Often, there is more than one solution.

I enjoy taking part in the many discussions here regarding religion, politics, or any of the fun topics (even though I avoid certain threads). But I have no patience for disruptive or non-productive posters. I'm taking you off ignore, but whether I respond to you is up to you.

[Edit]: Sorry about the preaching, but this is the Religious Thread . . .
You might want to go ahead and put me back on filter Tom... ;)
I thought, in light of your apology, that you could take some criticism. Apparently I am wrong. So, at your request, you are once again plonked. And to my friends who sometimes quote Jeffrey, please don't do so for my benefit.
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Message 303671 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 1:01:46 UTC - in response to Message 303627.  
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If you're looking for an apology of some kind from me, please point out what I have to apologise for.

The only thing I can think of that you should apologize for is your arrogant belief that the world (especially these forums) should revolve around you, your beliefs, and your opinions...

IT DOES NOT !!! So stop telling people (including me) HOW and WHAT to post...

That's what the FILTER is for... So stop COMPLAINING and start using it... ;)
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Message 303815 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 4:32:41 UTC

Tom, it's probably best to refer to the other threads made by him. These exist in the science forums as well as here. Logic is required to understand their fruitlessness but emotions and his Koran based understanding of the world is impervious to outside criticism.
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Message 303833 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 5:24:09 UTC
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Oh for GOD's sake... Get a grip...

And quit acting like a bunch of huffy puffy cry babies... ;)
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Message 303840 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 5:48:51 UTC - in response to Message 303833.  

Oh for GOD's sake... Get a grip...

And quit acting like a bunch of huffy puffy cry babies... ;)


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Message 305544 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 19:23:58 UTC

Dear Jeffrey, you are in my eyes, somebody of judicious, considered, full with wisdom your remarks are balanced, but does not forget a thing. The prophet said: "calumny not their Gods, for fear them in their rage calumny the true name of GOD" and also: "Give not your pearls with the pigs..."
and also: "Also do not judge and do not condemn anybody if you do not want to be considered and condemned in your turn."

I have a question for you: What do you think of the Gospel of James according to Jacob Lorber?

That the blessings of GOD are on you, O Jeffrey
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Message 305680 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 22:57:49 UTC - in response to Message 305544.  

Joseph...
If you look through past threads you will see that I'm not here attacking anyone, nor attacking anyones god or gods or religion or beliefs, nor am I preaching to anyone about my God... What I am doing is using verses from my Holy Books to clear up the many 'posted' misunderstandings and false accusations directed towards my Religion and my God, the God of the Bible and of the Qur'an... Nothing more...

What do you think of the Gospel of James according to Jacob Lorber?

I've never heard of Jacob Lorber, but I'll be sure and look into it... With that said, the Bible and the Qur'an have no contradictions (this might be debatable by some), so any text that comes along contradicting the Holy Books in any way shape or form will be disregarded and considered by me to be nothing more than the 'doctrines of demons' we were warned about... ;)
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Message 305706 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 23:45:35 UTC

Tonight at 0800 Eastern time on Fox Network, 'Simpsons' new episode. It's something about a controversy in Springfield about Creationism and Evolution. It should be a belly buster.
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Message 305721 - Posted: 15 May 2006, 0:17:22 UTC - in response to Message 305706.  

Tonight at 0800

This morning... or tonight at 2000 hours?
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Message 305727 - Posted: 15 May 2006, 0:30:54 UTC - in response to Message 305721.  

Tonight at 0800

This morning... or tonight at 2000 hours?

Sorry....yes, 2000 hour eastern time. 8pm

I guess our west coast friends will also view it at that time. Unfortunately I don't believe it will be viewed by UK/europe/aussie/kiwis for another year or 2.
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Message 306387 - Posted: 15 May 2006, 15:18:04 UTC

any text that comes along contradicting the Holy Books in any way shape or form will be disregarded and considered by me to be nothing more than the 'doctrines of demons'


How can anyone have a discussion with an idiot like this???


Jeffrey must therefore reject that Earth is more than 5000 years old. He must reject that there were dinosaurs, 'Cavemen' and wooly mammoths, he must reject every fossil ever found, he must reject all of meteorology, most of geology, and most of astronomy, INCLUDING the sun-centered solar system; he must reject the findings of modern medicine, he must reject equality for women...all of these are the 'doctrines of demons'.

Now he's going to claim that neither book rejects the above, and we'll parade out verse after verse for him, PROVING him wrong YET AGAIN, and still he'll dodge, ignore, and re-state the same bullshit.

It's like Ixion's wheel.

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Message 306392 - Posted: 15 May 2006, 15:23:49 UTC - in response to Message 306387.  

any text that comes along contradicting the Holy Books in any way shape or form will be disregarded and considered by me to be nothing more than the 'doctrines of demons'


How can anyone have a discussion with an idiot like this???


Jeffrey must therefore reject that Earth is more than 5000 years old. He must reject that there were dinosaurs, 'Cavemen' and wooly mammoths, he must reject every fossil ever found, he must reject all of meteorology, most of geology, and most of astronomy, INCLUDING the sun-centered solar system; he must reject the findings of modern medicine, he must reject equality for women...all of these are the 'doctrines of demons'.

Now he's going to claim that neither book rejects the above, and we'll parade out verse after verse for him, PROVING him wrong YET AGAIN, and still he'll dodge, ignore, and re-state the same bullshit.

It's like Ixion's wheel.



More like Gordian's Knot.
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Message 306545 - Posted: 15 May 2006, 18:26:07 UTC - in response to Message 306387.  

and we'll parade out verse after verse for him, PROVING him wrong YET AGAIN, and still he'll dodge, ignore, and re-state the same bullshit.

What fantasy land do you live in?

You keep repeating this claim but in reality you have yet to prove me wrong on anything...

The reality is that I made you look so silly that now your sole mission in life has evolved into following me around and attempting to discredit me...

I challenge you:
Dig up and REPOST anything YOU THINK you have DISPROVED...

HAPPY HUNTING... ;)
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Message 306592 - Posted: 15 May 2006, 19:33:16 UTC




Never argue with a fool, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with experience!





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Message 306595 - Posted: 15 May 2006, 19:36:25 UTC - in response to Message 306592.  




Never argue with a fool, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with experience!

I'll ignore your advice for this afternoon as I've been eating hot sauces.

Jeffrey!? Please paste here any attributes you ascribe to Allah and I will challenge those. We have to consent upon subject matter for any progress to be made. Be as honest as you can and don't get squiggly on me because I'm sure that that is considered a sin by your holy books. I'll come back in an hour or 2 and make sure you've done your assignments and your head has not exploded all over your monitor.

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