Just in case someone hadn't noticed the server status page now includes an RSS feed towards the bottom.

Regards.

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Well, its actually not the server status page, but rather the home page... :-)

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Well, its actually not the server status page, but rather the home page... :-)

Actually, it is. It's different from the RSS feed on the home page, which is the current SETI@Home news.


kev

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kev

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Actually, it is. It's different from the RSS feed on the home page, which is the current SETI@Home news.

Would you point us to it? I can't see an RSS feed on the server status page. The XML link doesn't work in my RSS reader.

MJ

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The XML link doesn't work in my RSS reader.

Pity.... I don't know which is more impressive, the animated gophers, or the fact that they were able to find leather chaps that small.

Actually, it is. It's different from the RSS feed on the home page, which is the current SETI@Home news.

Would you point us to it? I can't see an RSS feed on the server status page. The XML link doesn't work in my RSS reader.

MJ

It's on the server stats page, just under the navbar, to the left.

"NEW: SETI@home server status information is now available in XML. "


kev

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kev

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It's on the server stats page, just under the navbar, to the left.

"NEW: SETI@home server status information is now available in XML. "

That's actually been there for weeks (months?)

Just in case someone hadn't noticed the server status page now includes an RSS feed towards the bottom.

Regards.

XML != RSS

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It's on the server stats page, just under the navbar, to the left.

"NEW: SETI@home server status information is now available in XML. "

That's actually been there for weeks (months?)

In my browser, it's under the nav bar at the top of the page, not near the bottom. (months, I think...) And as Ned said, XML isn't the same as RSS.

MJ

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Sorry, I didn't realize XML=RSS. I was taking the links literally... :-)

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Sorry, I didn't realize XML=RSS. I was taking the links literally... :-)

no, XML does not = RSS
but RSS does = XML
RSS is XML, but not all XML is RSS

as Ned said:

XML != RSS

which is a C programming term for "does not equal"
correct me on the exact meaning Ned, i'm not familiar with C, i know there are 2 ways of negating something !(attribute/selector == value) and (attribute/selector != value)

RSS just uses the XML format, but they're quite different
RSS is an implementation of XML, but XML can be used for many other things (such as the stats export for statistics sites for example)

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Sorry, I didn't realize XML=RSS. I was taking the links literally... :-)

no, XML does not = RSS
but RSS does = XML
RSS is XML, but not all XML is RSS

as Ned said:

XML != RSS

which is a C programming term for "does not equal"
correct me on the exact meaning Ned, i'm not familiar with C, i know there are 2 ways of negating something !(attribute/selector == value) and (attribute/selector != value)

RSS just uses the XML format, but they're quite different
RSS is an implementation of XML, but XML can be used for many other things (such as the stats export for statistics sites for example)

Depending on the precise flavour of RSS we're talking about, it may be XML-like but not exactly XML compliant. Most of the BOINC internal files are XML-like as well.

XML is in some ways a wonderful way to move data between systems: XML files are written by machines for other machines to interpret. It is also incredibly verbose and not particularly efficient.

RSS is a specific XML or XML-like format (there are about 8 different versions, not counting Atom which is RSS-like) for displaying syndicated information.

The XML files on the status page are meant to drive stats sites like Scarecrow's graphs. An RSS reader might read them.

I think != generates slightly tighter code than doing the == operation and negating the result.

-- Ned

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Animated gophers?

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Depending on the precise flavour of RSS we're talking about, it may be XML-like but not exactly XML compliant. Most of the BOINC internal files are XML-like as well.

XML is in some ways a wonderful way to move data between systems: XML files are written by machines for other machines to interpret. It is also incredibly verbose and not particularly efficient.

RSS is a specific XML or XML-like format (there are about 8 different versions, not counting Atom which is RSS-like) for displaying syndicated information.

The XML files on the status page are meant to drive stats sites like Scarecrow's graphs. An RSS reader might read them.

all true, i just wanted to get the point across in a simple fasion rather than getting into the details about it
but i have to agree about the efficiency, unless there's some kind of request/response interaction between the system then the system generating the XML ideally needs to include all the data that the recipient might want (including everything that it won't want)

OPML is an exelent example of inefficiency, using attributes for data rather than elements, but that's down to the implementation of the format rather than XML itself, although the requirements of XML do make the problem worse, but i believe that the scrictness of the XML format is more benificial than it is harmful, being explicit about things removes a lot of question marks (XHTML is a good example, either it's valid or it's not)

I think != generates slightly tighter code than doing the == operation and negating the result.

I did read somewhere that there are a few differences (i use ethereal which uses C-like expressions for display filters, and i notice different results when using one compared to the other

one seems to show all (in the case of ethereal) packets of the specified type except those that match the stated value

and the other, well i'm not sure, my observations vary

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Animated gophers?

Scarecrow != sane_person

Animated gophers?

Scarecrow != sane_person

well, after all those beers ;)

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Sorry to post and abandon you all but you know what life's like. I was actually looking at:

http://boincprojectstatus.ath.cx/SS_SETI@Home.html

which includes an RSS news feed at the bottom of the page.

Sorry to mislead everyone but it sure started an interesting discussion.

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Sorry to post and abandon you all but you know what life's like. I was actually looking at:

http://boincprojectstatus.ath.cx/SS_SETI@Home.html

which includes an RSS news feed at the bottom of the page.

Sorry to mislead everyone but it sure started an interesting discussion.

Oh, THAT server status page! 8-)

MJ

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Oh, THAT server status page!

Well, that makes perfect sense to me now... what a waste of perfectly good gophers.

Sorry to post and abandon you all but you know what life's like. I was actually looking at:

http://boincprojectstatus.ath.cx/SS_SETI@Home.html

which includes an RSS news feed at the bottom of the page.

Sorry to mislead everyone but it sure started an interesting discussion.

In the words of Emily Litella "That's very different -- nevermind."

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