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Message 234148 - Posted: 20 Jan 2006, 12:26:08 UTC
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Ok a few more authors to add to my reading list thanks! Excellent.

Ringworld books are great but I have never read any L Ron Hubbard..don't know why.

Rush, I think if you took a lot of the feminism out of Tepper, you'd be kinda missing the point. From a female perspective it's great to have an author writing about issues that effect me. Lot's of the old science fiction tended to have female characters that just stood around looking pretty and screaming a lot. I love Phillip Jose Farmer, and his books were the ones that got me hooked on science fiction from a very young age (around 9 I think!), but he wasn't exactly a new man. The Riverworld books are still a must read though.
The Algebraist is Bank's latest scifi novel. Not his best, but I still enjoyed it.

Let's not forget Stephen Donaldson. 'The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever' and his 'Gap' series....
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Message 234180 - Posted: 20 Jan 2006, 14:15:35 UTC - in response to Message 234148.  

Ok a few more authors to add to my reading list thanks! Excellent.

Ringworld books are great but I have never read any L Ron Hubbard..don't know why.

Rush, I think if you took a lot of the feminism out of Tepper, you'd be kinda missing the point. From a female perspective it's great to have an author writing about issues that effect me. Lot's of the old science fiction tended to have female characters that just stood around looking pretty and screaming a lot. I love Phillip Jose Farmer, and his books were the ones that got me hooked on science fiction from a very young age (around 9 I think!), but he wasn't exactly a new man. The Riverworld books are still a must read though.
The Algebraist is Bank's latest scifi novel. Not his best, but I still enjoyed it.

Let's not forget Stephen Donaldson. 'The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever' and his 'Gap' series....

David Weber, Anne McCaffrey, Octavia E. Butler, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le Guin, to name a few, all have strong female characters without the feminist bias. Sherri S. Tepper makes a good attempt at showing both sides but "feminists are to men as the KKK is to blacks" is my opinion of that ideology and it shows through her writing. I like her work in spite of it, not because of it. She does tell a good story.
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Message 234248 - Posted: 20 Jan 2006, 16:24:30 UTC - in response to Message 234148.  

Rush, I think if you took a lot of the feminism out of Tepper, you'd be kinda missing the point. From a female perspective it's great to have an author writing about issues that effect me.

The challenge is to make it a seemless part of the story, and it seems that if I would be missing the point, and given David's further comments, then she hasn't met that challenge. Which is fine, it's her story.

Let's not forget Stephen Donaldson. 'The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever'

While I loved that set, and I've probably read it three or four times, did anyone else get the idea that Thomas was just a whiner? That so many of the problems involved could have been solved if he wasn't just a self-absorbed ass?

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Message 234330 - Posted: 20 Jan 2006, 18:09:22 UTC

Probably off-topic but a good book nonetheless is Atlas Shrugged.
I can't remember the author's name.

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Message 234356 - Posted: 20 Jan 2006, 18:33:20 UTC - in response to Message 234330.  

Probably off-topic but a good book nonetheless is Atlas Shrugged.
I can't remember the author's name.

Ayn Rand maybe?
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Message 234364 - Posted: 20 Jan 2006, 18:43:24 UTC

As I said in another thread, I'm now reading "The Black Magician Trilogy" by Trudi Canavan. This is in the fantasy/adventure department and is considered "youth litterature", but really quite good and entertaining. Not a Nobel candidate, but great bedtime reading. Recommended!

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Message 234379 - Posted: 20 Jan 2006, 19:24:26 UTC - in response to Message 234330.  
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Probably off-topic but a good book nonetheless is Atlas Shrugged.
I can't remember the author's name.

Same problem.
Very old book "Ice Schooners" (You know, the boat durnit)? spelling. :-0

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Message 234556 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 0:07:36 UTC - in response to Message 234248.  
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Let's not forget Stephen Donaldson. 'The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever'

While I loved that set, and I've probably read it three or four times, did anyone else get the idea that Thomas was just a whiner? That so many of the problems involved could have been solved if he wasn't just a self-absorbed ass?

Is that the worst you can say about the character? ok..never mind...

Sometimes I get the feeling that you just like disagreeing with people for the sake of it. ;-)

Prognatus, some kids books are really good. The Dark Materials books by Phlip Pullman for example.
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Message 234559 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 0:12:43 UTC - in response to Message 234556.  

Prognatus, some kids books are really good.
Yeah, like Harry Potter! :)
The Dark Materials books by Phlip Pullman for example.
Thanks for that tip. I'll take a closer look at them.

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Message 234572 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 0:28:36 UTC - in response to Message 234556.  

Is that the worst you can say about the character? ok..never mind...

No, of course not. I'm just curious about what you and others thought about the character. It's a discussion.

Sometimes I get the feeling that you just like disagreeing with people for the sake of it. ;-)

Nope. I just don't post "well said," or "me too," all that often. 8^]
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Message 234582 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 0:33:55 UTC - in response to Message 234572.  

Is that the worst you can say about the character? ok..never mind...

No, of course not. I'm just curious about what you and others thought about the character. It's a discussion.

I just thought it interesting that in a discussion about feminism you skipped over the fact that the lead character was also a rapist. Of course Thomas was flawed, if he wasn't there would have been no story...but i understand what you mean, sometimes I didn't quite get the motivation for his disbelief.

Sometimes I get the feeling that you just like disagreeing with people for the sake of it. ;-)

Nope. I just don't post "well said," or "me too," all that often. 8^]

I wonder what would happen if you did..
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Message 234649 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 1:35:08 UTC - in response to Message 234356.  
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Probably off-topic but a good book nonetheless is Atlas Shrugged.
I can't remember the author's name.

Ayn Rand maybe?


That's it. Thanks.
I should have googled it.

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Message 234664 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 2:12:56 UTC

Piers Anthony. The apprentice adept series.
The incarnations of immortality series.
Bio of a space tyrant The life and times of Hope Hubris.
Anthonology (A mix of short stories)
Macroscope.

Arthur C Clark. Children of a distant earth.
A fall of moondust.


I really recommend Piers Anthony's Incarnations of immortality for a fantasy novel.
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Message 234693 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 3:14:04 UTC - in response to Message 234582.  

I just thought it interesting that in a discussion about feminism you skipped over the fact that the lead character was also a rapist. Of course Thomas was flawed, if he wasn't there would have been no story...but i understand what you mean, sometimes I didn't quite get the motivation for his disbelief.

I wasn't trying to "skip over" that fact, I never thought it added much to the story, other than he was a self-absorbed ass. Him throwing Lena under the bus was just evidence of that fact. The story could have been told, but you are right, it would certainly have ended sooner...

I wonder what would happen if you did..

No idea.

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Message 234700 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 3:24:13 UTC - in response to Message 234379.  

Probably off-topic but a good book nonetheless is Atlas Shrugged.
I can't remember the author's name.

Same problem.
Very old book "Ice Schooners" (You know, the boat durnit)? spelling. :-0

I found it Michael Morecock 1969


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Message 234840 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 12:52:23 UTC - in response to Message 234700.  

Probably off-topic but a good book nonetheless is Atlas Shrugged.
I can't remember the author's name.

Same problem.
Very old book "Ice Schooners" (You know, the boat durnit)? spelling. :-0

I found it Michael Morecock 1969



I remember subscribing to a magazine in the 60's called New Worlds. here in the UK, and it was edited I believe by Michael Moorcock. This was where I first came across his work and his hero Jerry Cornelius. One of his earlier books was A Cure for Cancer all very sixties stuff. I haven't read any of his later works.
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Message 234866 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 13:45:22 UTC - in response to Message 233612.  

There are so many people here who like science fiction and fantasy... well...we all know seti posters have class! I'd love to hear people's recommendations for a good read.

Most people I think appreciate the brilliance of authors like Isaac Asimov, Arthur C Clarke, J R Tolkien, Robert A Heinlein, Aldous Huxley..oh hell I could go on all night.. but really I'd like to hear about all your favourite Sci-fi and fantasy novels. There are a few I haven't read yet ;-)

I just read "EATER" by G. Benford, also recently "Crucible" I think that was Naccy Kress. Both very good reads.


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Message 234878 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 14:04:19 UTC

I just read Hans Dominik, a german engineer Scifi writer. He wrote his books in the first half of the century, and it's quite interesting how he thought the technic will develop (supersonic flight with water planes, starships dito, sometimes crude mix of electro-magnetism and telepathy, alchemy and nuclear physics...). I don't know whether he's translated.

And of course ther is Stanislaw Lem (deutsches Wiki english wiki).
And Douglas Addams (imho no link required).
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Message 235068 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 19:07:40 UTC

I didn't have enough time earlier to post a link to the book I was/am reading, but here is one:

State Of Fear


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Message 235158 - Posted: 21 Jan 2006, 20:13:20 UTC

All the authors mentioned here are good, but havent any of you thought about Terry Prachett. He soooooooo funny as well as a good fantasy writer, Robert Rankin is another funny one. Does anyone know if Hugh Cook still writes, got two books of his (I think there part of a set) but havent seen any of his stuff for years.


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