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Ok a few more authors to add to my reading list thanks! Excellent. Ringworld books are great but I have never read any L Ron Hubbard..don't know why. Rush, I think if you took a lot of the feminism out of Tepper, you'd be kinda missing the point. From a female perspective it's great to have an author writing about issues that effect me. Lot's of the old science fiction tended to have female characters that just stood around looking pretty and screaming a lot. I love Phillip Jose Farmer, and his books were the ones that got me hooked on science fiction from a very young age (around 9 I think!), but he wasn't exactly a new man. The Riverworld books are still a must read though. The Algebraist is Bank's latest scifi novel. Not his best, but I still enjoyed it. Let's not forget Stephen Donaldson. 'The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever' and his 'Gap' series.... Reality Internet Personality |
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Ok a few more authors to add to my reading list thanks! Excellent. David Weber, Anne McCaffrey, Octavia E. Butler, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le Guin, to name a few, all have strong female characters without the feminist bias. Sherri S. Tepper makes a good attempt at showing both sides but "feminists are to men as the KKK is to blacks" is my opinion of that ideology and it shows through her writing. I like her work in spite of it, not because of it. She does tell a good story. David Stites Pullman, WA USA ![]() |
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Rush, I think if you took a lot of the feminism out of Tepper, you'd be kinda missing the point. From a female perspective it's great to have an author writing about issues that effect me. The challenge is to make it a seemless part of the story, and it seems that if I would be missing the point, and given David's further comments, then she hasn't met that challenge. Which is fine, it's her story. Let's not forget Stephen Donaldson. 'The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever' While I loved that set, and I've probably read it three or four times, did anyone else get the idea that Thomas was just a whiner? That so many of the problems involved could have been solved if he wasn't just a self-absorbed ass? Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... ![]() ![]() |
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Probably off-topic but a good book nonetheless is Atlas Shrugged. I can't remember the author's name. Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws. Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001) |
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Probably off-topic but a good book nonetheless is Atlas Shrugged. Same problem. Very old book "Ice Schooners" (You know, the boat durnit)? spelling. :-0 ![]() I Desire Peace and Justice, Jim Scott (Mod-Ret.) |
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Let's not forget Stephen Donaldson. 'The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever' Is that the worst you can say about the character? ok..never mind... Sometimes I get the feeling that you just like disagreeing with people for the sake of it. ;-) Prognatus, some kids books are really good. The Dark Materials books by Phlip Pullman for example. Reality Internet Personality |
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Prognatus, some kids books are really good.Yeah, like Harry Potter! :) The Dark Materials books by Phlip Pullman for example.Thanks for that tip. I'll take a closer look at them. |
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Is that the worst you can say about the character? ok..never mind... No, of course not. I'm just curious about what you and others thought about the character. It's a discussion. Sometimes I get the feeling that you just like disagreeing with people for the sake of it. ;-) Nope. I just don't post "well said," or "me too," all that often. 8^] Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... ![]() ![]() |
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Is that the worst you can say about the character? ok..never mind... I just thought it interesting that in a discussion about feminism you skipped over the fact that the lead character was also a rapist. Of course Thomas was flawed, if he wasn't there would have been no story...but i understand what you mean, sometimes I didn't quite get the motivation for his disbelief. Sometimes I get the feeling that you just like disagreeing with people for the sake of it. ;-) I wonder what would happen if you did.. Reality Internet Personality |
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Probably off-topic but a good book nonetheless is Atlas Shrugged. That's it. Thanks. I should have googled it. Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws. Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001) |
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Piers Anthony. The apprentice adept series. The incarnations of immortality series. Bio of a space tyrant The life and times of Hope Hubris. Anthonology (A mix of short stories) Macroscope. Arthur C Clark. Children of a distant earth. A fall of moondust. I really recommend Piers Anthony's Incarnations of immortality for a fantasy novel. ![]() |
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I just thought it interesting that in a discussion about feminism you skipped over the fact that the lead character was also a rapist. Of course Thomas was flawed, if he wasn't there would have been no story...but i understand what you mean, sometimes I didn't quite get the motivation for his disbelief. I wasn't trying to "skip over" that fact, I never thought it added much to the story, other than he was a self-absorbed ass. Him throwing Lena under the bus was just evidence of that fact. The story could have been told, but you are right, it would certainly have ended sooner... I wonder what would happen if you did.. No idea. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... ![]() ![]() |
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Probably off-topic but a good book nonetheless is Atlas Shrugged. I found it Michael Morecock 1969 ![]() I Desire Peace and Justice, Jim Scott (Mod-Ret.) |
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Probably off-topic but a good book nonetheless is Atlas Shrugged. I remember subscribing to a magazine in the 60's called New Worlds. here in the UK, and it was edited I believe by Michael Moorcock. This was where I first came across his work and his hero Jerry Cornelius. One of his earlier books was A Cure for Cancer all very sixties stuff. I haven't read any of his later works. |
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There are so many people here who like science fiction and fantasy... well...we all know seti posters have class! I'd love to hear people's recommendations for a good read. I just read "EATER" by G. Benford, also recently "Crucible" I think that was Naccy Kress. Both very good reads. ![]() I Desire Peace and Justice, Jim Scott (Mod-Ret.) |
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I just read Hans Dominik, a german engineer Scifi writer. He wrote his books in the first half of the century, and it's quite interesting how he thought the technic will develop (supersonic flight with water planes, starships dito, sometimes crude mix of electro-magnetism and telepathy, alchemy and nuclear physics...). I don't know whether he's translated. And of course ther is Stanislaw Lem (deutsches Wiki english wiki). And Douglas Addams (imho no link required). Gruesse vom Saenger For questions about Boinc look in the BOINC-Wiki |
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I didn't have enough time earlier to post a link to the book I was/am reading, but here is one: State Of Fear No matter where you go, there you are... ![]() |
Melia Send message Joined: 3 Jan 06 Posts: 1 Credit: 72 RAC: 0 |
All the authors mentioned here are good, but havent any of you thought about Terry Prachett. He soooooooo funny as well as a good fantasy writer, Robert Rankin is another funny one. Does anyone know if Hugh Cook still writes, got two books of his (I think there part of a set) but havent seen any of his stuff for years. |
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