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Message 226582 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 23:40:53 UTC

How do I get this useless piece of (expletives deleted) software to give me new work. If I'm lucky enough to get a work unit, when it's complete and I hit "update to send it in I get this message line: " User reporting 1 result and not requesting new work". After the unit downloads to BOINC, every time I try to update the following appears: "Update requested by user. Neither reporting results or requesting new work". I run SETI & Einstein on 1 computer. I have no trouble with Einstein, and was at least 4 times as productive on SETIclassic! Please help before I regretfully say goodbye to SETI.
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Message 226587 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 23:46:12 UTC

Quit micromanaging. The software does what it is supposed to, without you poking your nose in it.

SETI was down for about 30 hours, now that it's back (and I use that term loosely, as they may still be tweaking things), it will take several hours before things get straightened out.

As for you machine not asking for work, is because it's already busy with something. The way the time slices work is on a debt system. Since you got too much debt in SETI, Einstein will run fine for a while.



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Message 226594 - Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 23:55:53 UTC

Tahe the time to read the system status on the homepage. If you did you would have known that the project has been off for a database cleanup.
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Message 227489 - Posted: 7 Jan 2006, 12:44:33 UTC - in response to Message 226587.  

Quit micromanaging. The software does what it is supposed to, without you poking your nose in it.

SETI was down for about 30 hours, now that it's back (and I use that term loosely, as they may still be tweaking things), it will take several hours before things get straightened out.

As for you machine not asking for work, is because it's already busy with something. The way the time slices work is on a debt system. Since you got too much debt in SETI, Einstein will run fine for a while.


i think this is what is happening with mine if i understand you correctly
i need to wait until my completed seti units have been seen to at the other end before they will give me any more Is that right?
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Message 227515 - Posted: 7 Jan 2006, 13:35:17 UTC - in response to Message 227489.  

Quit micromanaging. The software does what it is supposed to, without you poking your nose in it.

SETI was down for about 30 hours, now that it's back (and I use that term loosely, as they may still be tweaking things), it will take several hours before things get straightened out.

As for you machine not asking for work, is because it's already busy with something. The way the time slices work is on a debt system. Since you got too much debt in SETI, Einstein will run fine for a while.


i think this is what is happening with mine if i understand you correctly
i need to wait until my completed seti units have been seen to at the other end before they will give me any more Is that right?

Normally BOINC will attempt to get work before your present work runs out, the place to look is in the messages tab, and see if there are any errors there after the connection attempt.

If you run more than one project and you cannot get work from the next one in line according to the debt calculation, it will go to the next highest priority project and get work from there.

It is always wise to run more than one project, just to cover outages, wether planned or not. If you want it as a backup only to keep your computer busy, you can set the resource share very low, Seti 100: backup 1 for instance.

You can also adjust the 'connect to network' setting to a higher figure, this says you are not going to connect for x days and therefore gives you x days of work. The max is ten days but from experience I would slowly increase it and probably not go above 4 days.

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Message 227617 - Posted: 7 Jan 2006, 19:08:25 UTC - in response to Message 226587.  

Quit micromanaging. The software does what it is supposed to, without you poking your nose in it.

SETI was down for about 30 hours, now that it's back (and I use that term loosely, as they may still be tweaking things), it will take several hours before things get straightened out.

As for you machine not asking for work, is because it's already busy with something. The way the time slices work is on a debt system. Since you got too much debt in SETI, Einstein will run fine for a while.



wow, there sure are a lot of arrogant people out there
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Message 227626 - Posted: 7 Jan 2006, 19:25:29 UTC - in response to Message 227617.  

wow, there sure are a lot of arrogant people out there

You felt Pooh's answer was arrogant? Well, I think it was absolutely correct. Pooh is one of the most patient people in here.

It is one thing we have always to tell newbies that BOINC needs no micromanagement. That is not meant deprecative but is a fact. BOINC normally knows better than you (or Pooh or me) what it has to do. We set the frame (in the 'preferences') and BOINC will duly fulfill these requirements.

Or did you resent the term 'debt'? It's a technical term used in BOINC. You may want to read more about these things in the BOINC-Wiki (Link in my sig.).

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Message 235366 - Posted: 22 Jan 2006, 1:03:15 UTC - in response to Message 227626.  

wow, there sure are a lot of arrogant people out there

You felt Pooh's answer was arrogant? Well, I think it was absolutely correct. Pooh is one of the most patient people in here.

It is one thing we have always to tell newbies that BOINC needs no micromanagement. That is not meant deprecative but is a fact. BOINC normally knows better than you (or Pooh or me) what it has to do. We set the frame (in the 'preferences') and BOINC will duly fulfill these requirements.

Or did you resent the term 'debt'? It's a technical term used in BOINC. You may want to read more about these things in the BOINC-Wiki (Link in my sig.).

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Message 235375 - Posted: 22 Jan 2006, 1:16:09 UTC - in response to Message 227626.  
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Message 235376 - Posted: 22 Jan 2006, 1:17:07 UTC - in response to Message 227626.  

Thank you for your kind words. they showed me that I gacve incomplete info concerning my problem. First, I don't think I'm arrogent; just very frustrated! I've been running BOINC SETI & Einstein since Feb., 2004. At that time I was also running SETI "Classic". All three worked harmoniously until SETI began its trunover solely to BOINC. That's when my problem with scheduling started. It continues today. I completed a SETI workunit yesterday morning and just now received a new unit.

How are my comments micromanaging? I just want to be as productive as one computer will allow me. I get new Einstein workunits as soon as I turn a completed unit in. What is wrong with expecting the same timeliness from SETI? Also if you check other posts, you will find others with the same problem. Instead of just quitting like others have expressed, I vented a little. If that offended anyone; my sincerest appologies!
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Message 235379 - Posted: 22 Jan 2006, 1:18:50 UTC - in response to Message 227617.  

Thank you for your kind words. they showed me that I gacve incomplete info concerning my problem. First, I don't think I'm arrogent; just very frustrated! I've been running BOINC SETI & Einstein since Feb., 2004. At that time I was also running SETI "Classic". All three worked harmoniously until SETI began its trunover solely to BOINC. That's when my problem with scheduling started. It continues today. I completed a SETI workunit yesterday morning and just now received a new unit.

How are my comments micromanaging? I just want to be as productive as one computer will allow me. I get new Einstein workunits as soon as I turn a completed unit in. What is wrong with expecting the same timeliness from SETI? Also if you check other posts, you will find others with the same problem. Instead of just quitting like others have expressed, I vented a little. If that offended anyone; my sincerest appologies!
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Message 235383 - Posted: 22 Jan 2006, 1:21:33 UTC - in response to Message 226594.  

Thank you for your kind words. they showed me that I gacve incomplete info concerning my problem. First, I don't think I'm arrogent; just very frustrated! I've been running BOINC SETI & Einstein since Feb., 2004. At that time I was also running SETI "Classic". All three worked harmoniously until SETI began its trunover solely to BOINC. That's when my problem with scheduling started. It continues today. I completed a SETI workunit yesterday morning and just now received a new unit.

How are my comments micromanaging? I just want to be as productive as one computer will allow me. I get new Einstein workunits as soon as I turn a completed unit in. What is wrong with expecting the same timeliness from SETI? Also if you check other posts, you will find others with the same problem. Instead of just quitting like others have expressed, I vented a little. If that offended anyone; my sincerest appologies!
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Message 235392 - Posted: 22 Jan 2006, 1:39:36 UTC
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Boinc does a very good job of following the shares you select for your projects. Perhaps this BOINC CPU Scheduler link will help explain more about how Boinc works. It may not be apparent in the short term, but if you allow it to work as intended you will find that it will spend almost exactly the amount of time you allocate to your projects. It does not need constant supervision.

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Message 235411 - Posted: 22 Jan 2006, 2:12:00 UTC - in response to Message 235383.  
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I've been running BOINC SETI & Einstein since Feb., 2004.

Einstein@Home/BOINC didn't start until November 2004.
Seti@Home/BOINC didn't start officially until June 22nd 2004.

That's when my problem with scheduling started. It continues today. I completed a SETI workunit yesterday morning and just now received a new unit.

Seti had an outage for the past couple of days, so they could end the database migration. There's always news about that on the home page. So after a long outage, it'll take a while to get new work. If only because there's then some 751,378 hosts out there that may want work. So work runs out quick, as it's taken up quicker than Seti can make it. Which means that it can take some 24 hours before your computer gets work again.
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