28.12.2005 18:37:36||Starting BOINC client version 5.2.5 for windows_intelx86
28.12.2005 18:37:36||libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
28.12.2005 18:37:36||Data directory: C:\\Programme\\BOINC
28.12.2005 18:37:37|SETI@home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
28.12.2005 18:37:37||Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz
28.12.2005 18:37:37||Memory: 511.48 MB physical, 1.22 GB virtual
28.12.2005 18:37:37||Disk: 55.89 GB total, 40.00 GB free
28.12.2005 18:37:37|boincsimap|Computer ID: 849; location: home; project prefs: home
28.12.2005 18:37:37|BURP|Computer ID: 10293; location: home; project prefs: home
28.12.2005 18:37:37|Einstein@Home|Computer ID: 435060; location: home; project prefs: home
28.12.2005 18:37:37|LHC@home|Computer ID: 70830; location: home; project prefs: home
28.12.2005 18:37:37|orbit@home|Computer ID: 2482; location: home; project prefs: home
28.12.2005 18:37:37|SETI@home|Computer ID: 1610233; location: home; project prefs: home
28.12.2005 18:37:37|SETI@home Beta Test|Computer ID: 3014; location: home; project prefs: home
28.12.2005 18:37:37|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Computer ID: 7780; location: 369.229; project prefs: default
28.12.2005 18:37:37|PrimeGrid|Computer ID: 3785; location: home; project prefs: home
28.12.2005 18:37:37|uFluids|Computer ID: 675; location: home; project prefs: home
28.12.2005 18:37:37||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2005-12-26 10:32:20)
28.12.2005 18:37:37||General prefs: using separate prefs for home
28.12.2005 18:37:37||Remote control not allowed; using loopback address

I use with my BOINC (5.2.5) many projects. The number is sometimes changing, momently there are 10 Projects running.
(Orbit is deactivated since they have a Windows Client.)
SETI is running an optimized client.

In my ressources i gave Seti 100%
all other P's 50%

Seti is working fine, but the others...
i don't understand when and why (..if) they get work.

Most projects are working since i have a rescent credit round 30 Cs. When BOINC revolve to another.
But some other P's did'nt ask for work all the time.
Why?
What have i to change in my attitudes?
I think the Problem is the deadline of the WUs.
Some of them are really long (µFluids, Seti Test) are really big/long...???

Einstein with work enough gave me after a new "Update" the following Info:
29.12.2005 09:45:27|Einstein@Home|Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 98.5% of time, BOINC on 99.7% of that, this project gets 9.1% of that

Have i to change these attitudes?
Whats the best attitude for me?

Thanx for Help!

Best wishes for 2006 to everybody!

Regards Miko

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http://altes-beckhaus.com - my home & job
http://crunching-family.at - my team

In my ressources i gave Seti 100%
all other P's 50%

If Seti has 100%, that doesn't leave any for the other projects unless you run out of Seti work or suspend it.

Also if running multiple projects, set your cache ("Connect every X days" setting) to less than 1.

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Grant
Darwin NT

In my ressources i gave Seti 100%
all other P's 50%

If Seti has 100%, that doesn't leave any for the other projects unless you run out of Seti work or suspend it.

Also if running multiple projects, set your cache ("Connect every X days" setting) to less than 1.

Hold on. Let's get the terminology right.

The OP said 100% percent. You cannot set absolute percentages! You set work share ratios.

If you have 10 projects with shares 100,50,50,50,50 etc.

Then project 1 gets 100/(100+50+50+50+50+50+50+50+50+50) or 100/550 = .18182 ~18%
The other projects get 50/(100+50+50+50+50+50+50+50+50+50) or 50/550 = .0909 ~ 9%

So SETI should run 18% of the time, each other project 9% of the time.

This share will not be on an instantaneous basis, it will be driven by the cryptic long and short term debts. All that can be said is that over a period of weeks - possibly months the projects will have run in those ratios.

Also, the OP mentions 'the number {of projects}is sometimes changing'.
Adding/removing projects will continuously upset the long/short term debts and the proper 'equilibrium' will need to be re-established - over days or weeks again.

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My thoughts was right the opposite (more is better...),
and so the old attitude was set on "10"!

Now i set the "Connect-days" to "1"
(less would be "0" and no server-contact?!)
and wait what happend.
I'll make a "Setup" to all P's (first at Seti, there i made the attitude-changing)

Thanx Grant for the fast answer!
(Please give me a lil repost if you meant to set the connect-days to "0")

Regards
Miko

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http://altes-beckhaus.com - my home & job
http://crunching-family.at - my team

If you have 10 projects with shares 100,50,50,50,50 etc.

Then project 1 gets 100/(100+50+50+50+50+50+50+50+50+50) or 100/550 = .18182 ~18%
The other projects get 50/(100+50+50+50+50+50+50+50+50+50) or 50/550 = .0909 ~ 9%

Thanks for the clarification.

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Grant
Darwin NT

@ MikeSW17
Okay, i know that it needs time to get a clear revolving of the 10 projects.
they have to equal (by 1 connecting-day) their ressources and the WU-deadlines andthe actual rescent credit...
Do You mean i've to set up the ressources to Seti 18,18 (instead of 100) and the others to 9,09 (instead of 50)?
Or shall i do noting else, still waiting?

Actuell is that the Projects having work are revolving their action now, but no project is answering for new work.

Regards
Miko

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http://altes-beckhaus.com - my home & job
http://crunching-family.at - my team

@ MikeSW17
Okay, i know that it needs time to get a clear revolving of the 10 projects.
they have to equal (by 1 connecting-day) their ressources and the WU-deadlines andthe actual rescent credit...
Do You mean i've to set up the ressources to Seti 18,18 (instead of 100) and the others to 9,09 (instead of 50)?
Or shall i do noting else, still waiting?

The time share is distributed in the manner mentioned by Mike.
The "connect every X days" value can be set to less than 1, but be sure to use an "."(dot) instead of the usual ","(Komma) for Österreich.

Actuell is that the Projects having work are revolving their action now, but no project is answering for new work.

They will start again once BOINC seems it appropriate, i.e. when the ammount of work for all projects is too small for the remaining period 'til next connect.

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Gruesse vom Saenger

For questions about Boinc look in the BOINC-Wiki

The processing of and requesting of WU is based on the following....



Work Scheduler
EDF (earliest date first) is caused by:

1) A deadline within 24 hours.
2) A deadline within 2 * the connect time.
3) A failure of the Round Robin simulator to finish a result within 90% of its deadline.

A project not requesting work is caused by:
1) A host that is in NWF (no work fetch)
2) A project that has enough work on a host that has enough work.
3) A project that has a LTD that is negative enough.

NWF (no work fetch) is caused by:
1) A failure of the Round Robin simulator to get a result done within 90% of a deadline if the resource share of the next project to request work from is added to the Round Robin simulation.

Work will always be requested from somewhere, even if that somewhere has a very negative LTD and/or the host is in NWF (no work fetch) if there is a CPU that is idle and there is a network connection.

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And the beat goes on
Sonny and Cher

BOINC Wiki

Do You mean i've to set up the ressources to Seti 18,18 (instead of 100) and the others to 9,09 (instead of 50)?
Or shall i do noting else, still waiting?

Resources are not % - 100 and 50 are fine. You need do nothing.

Thank You all!

I'll wait and report again here what happend.

Have a great trip to 2006 and a good new year!

Miko

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http://altes-beckhaus.com - my home & job
http://crunching-family.at - my team

My thoughts was right the opposite (more is better...),
and so the old attitude was set on "10"!

Now i set the "Connect-days" to "1"
(less would be "0" and no server-contact?!)
and wait what happend.
I'll make a "Setup" to all P's (first at Seti, there i made the attitude-changing)

Thanx Grant for the fast answer!
(Please give me a lil repost if you meant to set the connect-days to "0")

Regards
Miko

You can set "connect every 'x' days" to 0.25, or 0.1.

Because you have many projects, long intervals are harder to schedule.

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Miko,

Long term you may want to consider using percentages to set shares. I do, just to help keep my brain wrapped around the numbers. So, 10% share is 10, 20% is 20... and I have only to make sure I don't exceed 100 total and I am cool ...

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I set the days to 0,25
and the ressources to
- SETI1 = 18,18
- all 9 others = 9,09

Miko

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http://altes-beckhaus.com - my home & job
http://crunching-family.at - my team

One problem with percentages is that you may not be able to run all projects on all computers. For example I have two computers that are only suitable for running SZDG so even though that project only has a 1 share it gets more work than it should because those computers run it.

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BOINC WIKI

BOINCing since 2002/12/8

I set the days to 0.25 (with a point, not a komma)
and the ressources to
- SETI1 = 20
- all 9 others = 10

since now i got work fom :
Seti1, Seti Test, Einstein, PrimeGrid, µFluids and SIMAP

I'm waiting for work from SZTAKI and BURP (LHC and Orbit are out of work/ no Win Client jet.)


Miko

The most is running well i think.
There is no work for all projects at the same time at my BOINC Manager,
but the projects are revolving from time to time. So they all are getting work.

Just BURP gave me the following message:
07.01.2006 18:42:20|BURP|Sending scheduler request to http://burp.boinc.dk/burp_cgi/cgi
07.01.2006 18:42:20|BURP|Reason: Requested by user
07.01.2006 18:42:20|BURP|Requesting 21600 seconds of new work
07.01.2006 18:42:25|BURP|Scheduler request to http://burp.boinc.dk/burp_cgi/cgi succeeded
07.01.2006 18:42:30|BURP|Sending scheduler request to http://burp.boinc.dk/burp_cgi/cgi
07.01.2006 18:42:30|BURP|Reason: To fetch work
07.01.2006 18:42:30|BURP|Requesting 21600 seconds of new work
07.01.2006 18:42:35|BURP|Scheduler request to http://burp.boinc.dk/burp_cgi/cgi succeeded
07.01.2006 18:42:35|BURP|No work from project
07.01.2006 18:42:40|BURP|Deferring communication with project for 55 seconds

What does "to fetch work" mean? BURP has the same attitudes as 8 other running projects!

Miko

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http://altes-beckhaus.com - my home & job
http://crunching-family.at - my team

It's listing the reason for the RPC call, in this case it's to request 21600 seconds of work from the Burp project, and being told it has NONE to give