When did we invade Pakistan?

We didn't.

So when did it become a 'legitimate' target?

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'As far as "extra military instruction," soldiers get that all the time.'


I wasn't talking about the ' soldiers ' , I was talking about the ' leaders '...

Soldiers SHOULD NOT be punished for carrying out the ORDERS of their leaders as it would be considered an act of treason to do otherwise!

Somebody ORDERED them to push that button!

So when did it become a 'legitimate' target?

That's a question for Pervez Musharraf. But as far as finding and killing Ayman al-Zawahiri, it's probably a free-for-all.

Though, were he to wear a clearly identifiable uniform, that wouldn't be the case. He does not--knowingly and willingly placing others that dress like him at risk.

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Rush

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I wasn't talking about the ' soldiers ' , I was talking about the ' leaders '... Somebody ORDERED them to push that button!

What I said was, "Proving intent or negligence given the information and knowledge at hand would be difficult at best." That includes those that gave the order.

Hey, I have an idea, how about those that know where he is give him up? Or, how about he stops saying things like "Oh Americans, what you have seen in New York and Washington, and the casualties you witness in Afghanistan and in Iraq, despite all the media blackout, are nothing but the casualties of the initial clashes. If you continue the same policy of aggression against the Muslims, you will see, Allah willing, horrors that will make you forget what you saw in Afghanistan...I mean, in Vietnam."

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Rush

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How about Americans stop with the witch hunt and retaliation, stop meddling in the affairs of others, stop being the aggressors, boost up HOMELAND security, and MOVE ON...

Haven't we spent enough money and lost enough lives over one unfortunate incident.
More killing isn't gonna save any lives nor will it bring back those already dead.

Quit trying to justify the unjustifiable! Turn the other cheek, ignore the 'verbal' threats, and be the better country that we once were!

Come on America, WAKE UP!

Yeah, that's the good way. I'm not American, and I think everybody would be happier seeing America as a real-friendly country, not a potential threat.

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How about Americans stop with the witch hunt and retaliation, stop meddling in the affairs of others, stop being the aggressors, boost up HOMELAND security, and MOVE ON...

Yep. Welcome to gov't.

Turn the other cheek, ignore the 'verbal' threats, and be the better country that we once were!

You turn the other cheek. No people in any country need to do that.

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Rush

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Would it be OK if Cuba launches a missile against jail where Luis Posada Carriles, murderer of at least 73 people, is housed?

;-)

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Would it be OK if Cuba launches a missile against jail where Luis Posada Carriles, murderer of at least 73 people, is housed?

;-)

Good question...or is it a question of might makes right?

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Good question...or is it a question of might makes right?

It is EXACTLY a question of might making right. Group A figures they have to use might to take from others to fund their education program. Group B figures they have to use might to take from other to fund the Predator. It is the might that makes it right. They are using FORCE to make others comply.

That's true whether it's health care or a cruise missile. It's morally bankrupt either way.

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Rush

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To be honest with you there really has never been anywar that innocents have not been killed in, to be honest with you again that's how the governments of the world keep the populations down. For example: lets say that all the countries of this planet run smoothly for twenty years, no wars ect. then boom you have a generation or group that seems to not want to conform with what the norm says: I.E. Religion, culture, ect. The government then in order to keep the way things have always been run (unless you are George Bush who wants the whole world to be one way) will say that this side attacked this side and thus war breaks out until the side that doesn't conform to the norm either bows or they end up being slaughtered in warfare. Until the time that we actually start venturing to Mars and the Moon and start colonizing them, this will be how it is done. But then you will have the religious fundementalist groups that don't want people to leave because that would take away from their herd base and profit margin, so they would try to keep people here which in turns continues the first part of this post. The only way in my opinion to end all wars, is to have all the religious leaders once and for all PROVE that what they say is true, otherwise they close up shop, forever and the world unties
in the exploration of the Final Frontier.

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I'm just really hoping that the intel guys hard at work for the US Gov't
Dont declare that there's a bad guy in some town in Syria or Iran or Jordan
Or Turkey or Manitoba or Yemen or Algeria or Isreal or Puerto Rico-
And decide to send a flight of bombers to deal with the badass.
But then I guess it would be OK if the bombs actually killed the guy-
Right?
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'The only way in my opinion to end all wars, is to have all the religious leaders once and for all PROVE that what they say is true'


Hmm...
So you're admitting this war isn't about peace and democracy for the people of Iraq but rather to rid the world of all Gods people?

Not that I didn't know that already... My God already warned me of the things to come... ;)

"Jackopoly," Washington's favorite game!

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When did we invade Pakistan?

We didn't.

So when did it become a 'legitimate' target?

He bacame a legitimate target when he publically sided with the group that perpetrated an illegal act of war against the United States. Afghanistan's Taliban government explicitly gave him refuge.

While the US military has limited capability to hunt down individuals, it knows how to with countries. The Taliban are no longer the goverment of Afghanistan.

He is now hiding in a lawless region where he and his troops thumb their noses at the laws of warfare by waging war (in a command and control capacity) without wearing uniforms and while intentionally living among and blending in with civilian populations. It is the al Qaeda who are using the nearby civilians as human shields.

The United States, for the umpteenth time, has been forced to act as the enforcers of the world's rules. If the US were to simply beef up homeland security and let the terrorists survive after such flagrant violations of international law, then everyone of Earth would be at greater risk.

Have you ever wondered why the police force will spend thousands of dollars/euros/whatever to catch a thief who only stole a few hundred? It is so that a potential thief knows that if he steals something over a certain low threshhold of value, he will be hunted down and prosecuted. This acts to deter potential thieves, thereby saving the society as a whole several times the cost of a police investigation. If the police stopped pursuing someone when the cost of the investigation exceeded the cost of the crime, we'd be up to our eyeballs in petty crime. Soon, lawlessness would ensue and far more serious crimes would go unpunished until a state of complete anarchy reigned.

Now, it is important to realize that the US invasion of Middle East countries was part of al Qaeda's original plan. They figured that they could whip up such anti-American hatred across the whole region that they could topple one of the moderate pro-Western governments and establish themselves as the national government.

So far, the only two nations that have fallen have been replaced with pro-US governments. Not going according to al Qaeda's plan.

But back to my original point... the al Qaeda terrorists are the ones who are using civilians as human shields. This war, which should be renamed from the War on Terror to World War III, has seen the lowest rate of civilian casualties of any war in modern history. It has also had the one of the lowest rates of military casualties (for the Western side). D-Day during World War II was deadlier than the entire Iraq campaign.

However, because the left-leaning press is against the president and anything he does, the war is reported as though unprecedented numbers of civilians are being killed in a casual manner, that never before has an American soldier died in combat, and that the Western side is losing the war.

These journalists should be made to sit through unedited World War II combat footage.

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When did we Spaniards -nor did the rest of the World- ask you to act as teh World Police?

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When did we Spaniards -nor did the rest of the World- ask you to act as teh World Police?

Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations
Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain inter- national peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.

Last I heard, the Security Council hasn't fixed the problem, therefore the US has an inherent right to defend itself.

It would be a helluva lot easier if the US, UK, Australia and Israel weren't doing all of the heavy lifting.

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It would be a helluva lot easier if the US, UK, Australia and Israel weren't doing all of the heavy lifting.

Hear, hear!

When did we Spaniards -nor did the rest of the World- ask you to act as teh World Police?

Well let's see. WWI, WWII, and the Cold War for starters. Europe was not thrilled that the Soviets could have overrun their countries even faster than the Nazis did. The Hungarians, Czechs, and Afghans didn't seem so thrilled to see Soviet T-54s and BMPs rolling through their streets...

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Cordially,
Rush

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