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Message 195296 - Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 11:58:55 UTC

I have just tried to install the latest Windows version 5.2.10. I was running 4.19 satisfactorily.

1. The installation routine did not do an upgrade. It forced me to do a manual uninstall of the previous version.
2. After installing the new version it asked for a proxy server. Despite entering the details it fails to connect.

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Why can it not upgrade like almost all other 21st century software?
Why does it not recognise previous working settings?
If it doesn't like the settings which work with every other networked application how can we get it to work?
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Message 195300 - Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 12:03:44 UTC

Windows cure-all: Try a reboot.

A little quick answer about needing to uninstall 4.19 prior to installing 5.2.10: 4.19 was the old BOINC, prior to the new work scheduler. It didn't have any of the new-fangled things, not even a service install that worked properly.

So to make sure there was no mixup possible, the new BOINC asked you to uninstall the old one. It's that easy.
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Message 195302 - Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 12:05:52 UTC

boinc 4.19 is still a functioning version of boinc and can be used for now (until they lock it out in the DB tables anyway).

boinc V4.19 and earlier didn't include the boinc manager. you must uninstall early versions before upgrading to 4.20 and higher. It sounds like you did the uninstall is that right?

If you've uninstalled 4.19, installed 5.2.10 and are still having that silly proxy box prompt we might have an issue. Rom thinks he's fixed that issue with 5.2.10.

Open a command prompt box (start, all programs, accesories, then select command prompt)

enter in:

tracert 66.28.250.125

hit enter, can you reach the UL/DL server?
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Message 195326 - Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 12:39:48 UTC

Nick, Rom has released yet another version 5.2.11 this is a direct download, it should start immediately, you can write this right over you're existing client

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Message 195331 - Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 12:42:47 UTC - in response to Message 195326.  
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# Changes since 5.2.10

* Win: Fixes the option to allow people being able to launch the wizard until after a connection to the core client has been established.


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Message 195372 - Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 13:33:13 UTC

Many thanks for the helpful responses.

I can still (was with 4.19 in the seconds before uninstalling it as well) ping and reach the servers. I don't mind manually uninstalling a version it is just a bit irksome in this day and age that the new version didn't recognise it and take the proven working parameters, and perhaps worse generate a warning that settings, urls etc may need to be manually re-entered. Which are now forgotten.

I haven't yet gone back to 4.19, as I have other things to do with my time.

I took 5.2.10 as it states 'Recommended version', in preparation for December 15th, but it seems that the lessons still haven't been learnt. I'm glad I only installed it on the 'test' machine.

Another point of confusion, only one uninstall option was available which I have to presume handled both the client processing part and the manager. The installation only had the one option (apart from the multi-user, etc ones of course). Does this problem suggest that the uninstallation may be part of it? Is there anything else we need to do manually (which ought to be scripted in the installer anyway)?

5.2.10 won't install if it sees the old version anyway.
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Message 195391 - Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 13:54:38 UTC

anything from 4.45 upwards and just be upgraded on top of previous to that it would have to be a clean install. I have upgraded on top of my BOINC clients a fair few times this month and it just writes over previous versions I have never backed up my BOINC folders never seen the need for it as some people say to do that and so far I have suceeded
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Message 195401 - Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 14:09:35 UTC - in response to Message 195372.  

I don't mind manually uninstalling a version it is just a bit irksome in this day and age that the new version didn't recognise it and take the proven working parameters {...} but it seems that the lessons still haven't been learnt.

You may be right, but SSL isn't Microsoft or Sierra. They have no professional team round the clock just designing and testing their soft. They have no sales managers and PR-specialists lingering around. Thank God the haven't.

It is a big project, but running on a small budget. Lots of developments, designing and testing have been done by a number of your and my fellow crunchers in here. Abd believe me: The things written in this Q&A board also have an impact on future versions.

In this spirit I regard it also as a part of volunteering to the project when I encounter a flaw and have it discussed in here.

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Message 195565 - Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 16:28:07 UTC - in response to Message 195372.  
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I don't mind manually uninstalling a version it is just a bit irksome in this day and age that the new version didn't recognise it and take the proven working parameters, and perhaps worse generate a warning that settings, urls etc may need to be manually re-entered. Which are now forgotten.

The uninstall of older versions does not remove your personal settings. All of them (online and offline) were kept. Installing a new version only leads to a new benchmark test and then it continues where you've stopped it.
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