Just wondering if the workers at Boinc know this is happening.

All servers report up on status page. News says nothing about anything being wrong yet I cannot send back my finished work or pick up any new work or even update.

Anyone know when it will be fixed?

Correct, please read following thread: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=15245#118605

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Happy crunching

Why did you post that?

That has absolutely nothing to do with the servers down and is from 2003!

Why did you post that?

That has absolutely nothing to do with the servers down and is from 2003!

Say what??!??!?!?!?!!
Did you actually look at the thread the link is pointing too?????

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Maybe it's my eyes, but all posts in that thread say Posted 4 Jun 2005, while the thread's name is "Network going Down?" ... did you copy the whole link correctly? Else look here in the index.

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Why did you post that?
That has absolutely nothing to do with the servers down and is from 2003!

You have to look for the date in the message in the right hand column, you seem to be looking at the date in left hand column which is the date some joined Seti.
Also look here:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/~cricket/inr-668-interfaces.html
It shows the link between Cogent, Berkeleys cable company, and Berkeley. You can see that there is a spike and then then data throuput was cut dramatically. We seem to be in that cut down phase still.

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Why did you post that?

That has absolutely nothing to do with the servers down and is from 2003!

Read the link...

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Happy crunching

I also cannot send any wu's back to seti or get any new work since sometime late last night (Saturday night, june 4, 2005.) There are no mesages of anything being down, what is going on?

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Just wondering if the workers at Boinc know this is happening.

All servers report up on status page. News says nothing about anything being wrong yet I cannot send back my finished work or pick up any new work or even update.

Anyone know when it will be fixed?

I've checked several threads and it would seem that the folks at BOINC and SETI are not aware of this problem. Unfortunately, these folks do not seem to value our contribution of computer time enough to properly monitor their systems or to keep us informed if they are.

The effects of their lack of attention are best seen in the number of active members vs the number who have registered. These people are suppose to be preparing for the future as professionals. I can not immagine a commercial web site being down for such a long period. Imagine not being able to run your business for hours and even days.

Oh well, we have trusted this important science to children. Should there not be someone who properly checks the workings of the system? All they have to do is monitor here. We will let them know if there is a problem. Maybe, they are not as serious about this as we crunchers are.

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Have you noticed what day it is today? Do you expect lab people to stay clogged up in their lab 24/7, ready to jump at the whims of the people and network/internet, or would you give them the right to see their families once in a while as well?

Besides that, who says they haven't been working on trying to fix the problem? What do you want? For them to fix the problem, or to spend precious time on typing something in on the front page, just saying that there is a problem, which we all know about already? I for one want them to fix it, fix it in their own time and have them spend time with their family, as it's weekend. Monday is soon enough.

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Take a look at the Status Page.

Something is going on.

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--Bill

Have you noticed what day it is today? Do you expect lab people to stay clogged up in their lab 24/7, ready to jump at the whims of the people and network/internet, or would you give them the right to see their families once in a while as well?

Besides that, who says they haven't been working on trying to fix the problem? What do you want? For them to fix the problem, or to spend precious time on typing something in on the front page, just saying that there is a problem, which we all know about already? I for one want them to fix it, fix it in their own time and have them spend time with their family, as it's weekend. Monday is soon enough.

I don't think anyone expects that the lab team should be there 24/7 but there should be at least someone on call to fix these systems when they do go down after all this is a major project.

Also i don't think it would be hard to have the server status pages automatically update when a scheduler or another part of the system goes down.

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Have you noticed what day it is today? Do you expect lab people to stay clogged up in their lab 24/7, ready to jump at the whims of the people and network/internet, or would you give them the right to see their families once in a while as well?

Besides that, who says they haven't been working on trying to fix the problem? What do you want? For them to fix the problem, or to spend precious time on typing something in on the front page, just saying that there is a problem, which we all know about already? I for one want them to fix it, fix it in their own time and have them spend time with their family, as it's weekend. Monday is soon enough.

Success requires many things including a sense of urgency, making sacrifices, and giving cconsideration to those who make an effort successful. For example; I am working today, Saturday, and will work again tomorrow because I operate a business that has a retail store and an on-line store. My wife and I personally monitor our web-site 20 or more hours a day and have various automated monitors to assist. We provide personal customer service via e-mail and telephone, day and night. There are only two of us and we manage to divide the duties.

If they are aware of the problem, a simple note, "we are aware of the problem and are working to solve it." would not require much time and would save all of us the time we have spent making sure the problem was not ours.

Please, do not believe that I wish to start a great debate between those who think and those who do. I was simply suggesting that there are many small things such as scheduling human resources, which can and would make Boinc and SETI more effective.

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If my computers are running 24 hours a day crunching for Seti, then yes I would expect at least one person at Seti to be monitoring what is going on and post a message saying there is a problem and someone, somewhere is working on getting it corrected. I never had this long a problem with seti classic. To keep us updated is not asking too much!

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So why don't you give yourself up as volunteer to help those people in the lab out then? Without knowing how things are run there, you just barge in here and say how it should or could be run, comparing it wrongly to a commercial outfit. And all of that just because you don't have Seti units?
Might be time for you to either donate lots of money to Seti, so they can do what you want, or for you to check out what Boinc was for again... Distributed Computing ring a bell?

And thus, read this post. See you Monday. :)

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So why don't you give yourself up as volunteer to help those people in the lab out then? Without knowing how things are run there, you just barge in here and say how it should or could be run, comparing it wrongly to a commercial outfit. And all of that just because you don't have Seti units?
Might be time for you to either donate lots of money to Seti, so they can do what you want, or for you to check out what Boinc was for again... Distributed Computing ring a bell?

And thus, read this post. See you Monday. :)

Please, read my profile. My computers are part of my contribution. My telescope is part of my contribution, my work units completed are part of my contribution. My recruiting others to our efforts is part of my contribution.

I would gladly assist the people at Boinc and SETI in their efforts if they were open to such participation.

In the battle for humankind's survival it will be those who sacrifice the most who will be the greatest benefit.

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Good for you on all parts (don't take me wrong there), but as long as it isn't defined as a server problem (for all we know it's an ISP problem), there's nothing a lab tech can do. Did you read Matt's post?

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Please, read my profile. My computers are part of my contribution. My telescope is part of my contribution, my work units completed are part of my contribution. My recruiting others to our efforts is part of my contribution.

Sounds like you're another of us from the 9-edge face down generation :)

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Please, read my profile. My computers are part of my contribution. My telescope is part of my contribution, my work units completed are part of my contribution. My recruiting others to our efforts is part of my contribution.

Sounds like you're another of us from the 9-edge face down generation :)

I left instructions to be burried that way ;0}

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From the main page:

June 4, 2005
The file server containing the upload/download storage hung last evening. We had to power cycle it today to bring it back. It is now back up and the RAID is resync'ing. When this is complete we will bring scheduling and data service back on line.

Hopefully we'll be up- and downloading again in the morning.. :)

Greetings,
Speedy67

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