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Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34283 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Hi Reverted back to 4.27 all is working fine uploads downloads and manually update. 4.40 and 4.41 didn´t download anything cache goes down from 33 to 22 in one day but downloads nothing. greetz Mike With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
genes Send message Joined: 25 May 99 Posts: 117 Credit: 580,187 RAC: 0 |
Just installed 4.41 on my two dual p3's at home. So far no problems, though one of them is down to its last two WU's, one CPDN, one SETI, and no sign of asking for more work. Well, almost no sign. I did get this in its log: 5/15/2005 11:38:56 AM||May run out of work in 0.50 days; requesting more 5/15/2005 11:38:56 AM||schedule_cpus: must schedule But no attempt to contact any project. We shall see... ----- Edit -- I'm beginning to think that with this new scheduler, we should be upping the cache amount. I used to have it set to 2 days, but Einstein forced me to cut back lest I run past the deadlines. Waht does everyone else think? |
Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
I think a developer started with 4.38 as a base (instead of 4.40) and made the "improvements" and released it as 4.41, that's what I think. PS. I just switched over the puter my wife broke to 4.41 from 4.26 and I can't use "project Update" on it either. tony |
RossM Send message Joined: 5 Apr 02 Posts: 37 Credit: 36,921 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote>I think a developer started with 4.38 as a base (instead of 4.40) and made the "improvements" and released it as 4.41, that's what I think. PS. I just switched over the puter my wife broke to 4.41 from 4.26 and I can't use "project Update" on it either. tony</blockquote> Project update on 4.40 works no problem for me. |
genes Send message Joined: 25 May 99 Posts: 117 Credit: 580,187 RAC: 0 |
I resisted the urge to force it to ask for work, and it seems to have done so by itself... like it's supposed to! Got 4 new WU's from PPAH. Set my cache to 1 day now, we'll see how that works out. |
Heffed Send message Joined: 19 Mar 02 Posts: 1856 Credit: 40,736 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote>From my testing, it seems that if a project requires work, a manual update will work: </blockquote> It's most likely like 4.38. Updates only work on projects with positive long term debt. |
Gareth Lock Send message Joined: 14 Aug 02 Posts: 358 Credit: 969,807 RAC: 0 |
Upload/Download bug isn't fixed in v4.41... Neither is "Connection Failed". Another one to report here is the failure of the CC to resume from a "Suspend"ed state (menu option) when either of the two "Run Always" or "Run Based on Preferences" options are selected from the GUI. This has been going on from v4.38 or so if I remember rightly & still rears it's ugly head in v4.41. Just thought I'd let you lot know... Anyhow... For now... I've bopped back down to v4.35 until all this mess can be sorted out. What would be handy however, is a more detailed list of fixes either as part of the bugfix list on the dev download section, or as a text file or something, which might go some way towards providing a list of what bugs have been addressed between these revisions. |
Thierry Van Driessche Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3083 Credit: 150,096 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote> I don't know where you are getting the "will still be crunched by setiathome version 4.09" bit from though. Assuming you are running one of the optimized hosts, I guess this information must be comming from the app_info.xml - AFAIK one version had entries for both 4.09 app and 4.11 to prevent loss of outstanding 4.09 work in the cache. </blockquote> As I can see in the tab "Work" all my WU's for S@H, even the last one downloaded, are linked to the application S@H v4.09. Therefore, "will still be crunched by setiathome version 4.09". I am using the downloaded and regular Boinc v4.30. As you had S@H v4.11 my assuming is that Boinc v4.41 downloads WU's with the S@H v4.11 application. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34283 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
<blockquote><blockquote>From my testing, it seems that if a project requires work, a manual update will work: </blockquote> It's most likely like 4.38. Updates only work on projects with positive long term debt. </blockquote> No, i had a longtermdept with seti over 32000 but no manually update. greetz Mike With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 19 Jul 00 Posts: 3898 Credit: 1,158,042 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote>What would be handy however, is a more detailed list of fixes either as part of the bugfix list on the dev download section, or as a text file or something, which might go some way towards providing a list of what bugs have been addressed between these revisions. </blockquote> And if the version numbers between the platforms are really accurate. I mean, is the Macintosh 4.37 identical to the windows version 4.37? Or is it really 4.41 that is lying about its age? But I agree, a version description would be nice. And I say this even though I watch the CVS mailing list and in theory know what the changes are. |
B-Roy Send message Joined: 4 May 03 Posts: 220 Credit: 260,955 RAC: 1 |
<blockquote>Anyhow... For now... I've bopped back down to v4.35 until all this mess can be sorted out. What would be handy however, is a more detailed list of fixes either as part of the bugfix list on the dev download section, or as a text file or something, which might go some way towards providing a list of what bugs have been addressed between these revisions. </blockquote> Is there any page where I could still download v4.35? |
MikeSW17 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1603 Credit: 2,700,523 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote><blockquote> I don't know where you are getting the "will still be crunched by setiathome version 4.09" bit from though. Assuming you are running one of the optimized hosts, I guess this information must be comming from the app_info.xml - AFAIK one version had entries for both 4.09 app and 4.11 to prevent loss of outstanding 4.09 work in the cache. </blockquote> As I can see in the tab "Work" all my WU's for S@H, even the last one downloaded, are linked to the application S@H v4.09. Therefore, "will still be crunched by setiathome version 4.09". I am using the downloaded and regular Boinc v4.30. As you had S@H v4.11 my assuming is that Boinc v4.41 downloads WU's with the S@H v4.11 application. </blockquote> I might have mis-understood your question. But, the log snippet you posted clearly says "Resuming computation for result 19dc04aa.1338.15010.786080.191_1 using setiathome version 4.11". The only s@h app I know of with version = 4.11 are the optimized windows binaries. The log also says that you are 'resuming' - which means 4.11 was running before this time. |
Gareth Lock Send message Joined: 14 Aug 02 Posts: 358 Credit: 969,807 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote><blockquote>Anyhow... For now... I've bopped back down to v4.35 until all this mess can be sorted out. What would be handy however, is a more detailed list of fixes either as part of the bugfix list on the dev download section, or as a text file or something, which might go some way towards providing a list of what bugs have been addressed between these revisions. </blockquote> Is there any page where I could still download v4.35? </blockquote> Dunno... I tend to keep recent CC installers on the HDD for this very eventuality, but if you send me an e-mail... I can attach a ZIP with the Winx86 installer and mail it back. [garethlock@yahoo.com] |
Gareth Lock Send message Joined: 14 Aug 02 Posts: 358 Credit: 969,807 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote><blockquote>What would be handy however, is a more detailed list of fixes either as part of the bugfix list on the dev download section, or as a text file or something, which might go some way towards providing a list of what bugs have been addressed between these revisions. </blockquote> And if the version numbers between the platforms are really accurate. I mean, is the Macintosh 4.37 identical to the windows version 4.37? Or is it really 4.41 that is lying about its age? But I agree, a version description would be nice. And I say this even though I watch the CVS mailing list and in theory know what the changes are.</blockquote> This should also go some way to stemming the tide of "v4.3x/4x is acting strange" posts here. If the bug these downloaders have found doesn't appear in the fixed list, then there's no point in downloading the fix. If you know what I mean.... Less confusion all around by providing a little more info. Let's face it... Most software like this that's available for download has a comprehensive "history" list somewhere accessable on the download page. For me it saves a hell of a lot of headaches!! |
Aurora Borealis Send message Joined: 14 Jan 01 Posts: 3075 Credit: 5,631,463 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote><blockquote>Anyhow... For now... I've bopped back down to v4.35 until all this mess can be sorted out. What would be handy however, is a more detailed list of fixes either as part of the bugfix list on the dev download section, or as a text file or something, which might go some way towards providing a list of what bugs have been addressed between these revisions. </blockquote> Is there any page where I could still download v4.35? You can get all old CC at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/ Ignore versions 4.5x and 4.6x they are out of sequence numbering. Boinc V7.2.42 Win7 i5 3.33G 4GB, GTX470 |
Thierry Van Driessche Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3083 Credit: 150,096 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote> As I can see in the tab "Work" all my WU's for S@H, even the last one downloaded, are linked to the application S@H v4.09. Therefore, "will still be crunched by setiathome version 4.09". I am using the downloaded and regular Boinc v4.30. As you had S@H v4.11 my assuming is that Boinc v4.41 downloads WU's with the S@H v4.11 application. </blockquote><blockquote> I might have mis-understood your question. But, the log snippet you posted clearly says "Resuming computation for result 19dc04aa.1338.15010.786080.191_1 using setiathome version 4.11". The only s@h app I know of with version = 4.11 are the optimized windows binaries. The log also says that you are 'resuming' - which means 4.11 was running before this time. </blockquote> Hello MikeSW17, The "Resuming computation for result 19dc04aa.1338.15010.786080.191_1 using setiathome version 4.11" is coming from your post. Therefore, I'm supposing it happens on your host, and from there comes my question if Boinc v4.41 downloads S@H application v4.11. I am still using CC 4.30 and, as posted in my post I have only S@H v4.09. |
B-Roy Send message Joined: 4 May 03 Posts: 220 Credit: 260,955 RAC: 1 |
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Anyhow... For now... I've bopped back down to v4.35 until all this mess can be sorted out. What would be handy however, is a more detailed list of fixes either as part of the bugfix list on the dev download section, or as a text file or something, which might go some way towards providing a list of what bugs have been addressed between these revisions. </blockquote> Is there any page where I could still download v4.35? You can get all old CC at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/ Ignore versions 4.5x and 4.6x they are out of sequence numbering. </blockquote> Thank you and also Gareth for his proposal. |
ralic Send message Joined: 6 Jan 00 Posts: 308 Credit: 274,230 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote>Therefore, I'm supposing it happens on your host, and from there comes my question if Boinc v4.41 downloads S@H application v4.11. I am still using CC 4.30 and, as posted in my post I have only S@H v4.09.</blockquote> A quick glance at the Applications page shows SAH 4.09 to be the latest Berkeley release for the Win platform. Anything other than that is assumed to be a roll-it-yourself version. This is an open source project after all. BOINC v4.41 doesn't download S@H v4.11 as far as I can tell. Well, not from the alpha site anyways. |
Heffed Send message Joined: 19 Mar 02 Posts: 1856 Credit: 40,736 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote>BOINC v4.41 doesn't download S@H v4.11 as far as I can tell. Well, not from the alpha site anyways.</blockquote> No, it doesn't download 4.11 WUs. As I understand it, using the anonymous platform functionality, you are simply calling the 4.11 .exe to process the WU, instead of the default 4.09 .exe. |
MikeSW17 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1603 Credit: 2,700,523 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote><blockquote> As I can see in the tab "Work" all my WU's for S@H, even the last one downloaded, are linked to the application S@H v4.09. Therefore, "will still be crunched by setiathome version 4.09". I am using the downloaded and regular Boinc v4.30. As you had S@H v4.11 my assuming is that Boinc v4.41 downloads WU's with the S@H v4.11 application. </blockquote><blockquote> I might have mis-understood your question. But, the log snippet you posted clearly says "Resuming computation for result 19dc04aa.1338.15010.786080.191_1 using setiathome version 4.11". The only s@h app I know of with version = 4.11 are the optimized windows binaries. The log also says that you are 'resuming' - which means 4.11 was running before this time. </blockquote> Hello MikeSW17, The "Resuming computation for result 19dc04aa.1338.15010.786080.191_1 using setiathome version 4.11" is coming from your post. Therefore, I'm supposing it happens on your host, and from there comes my question if Boinc v4.41 downloads S@H application v4.11. I am still using CC 4.30 and, as posted in my post I have only S@H v4.09.</blockquote> You're absolutely right, Thierry. I hadn't realised you had quoted me as part of your question. I hate this quoting system - it's so unclear. Lets go back to the good old Greater-than sign. |
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