The replica has blasted through the 3 hour mark.

I am going to PANIC shortly, with or without permission.

3hrs is 10,800 seconds. the replica is only at 8,125 seconds behind, or ~2.25 hrs

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Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

The replica has blasted through the 3 hour mark.

I am going to PANIC shortly, with or without permission.

3hrs is 10,800 seconds. the replica is only at 8,125 seconds behind, or ~2.25 hrs

Typo, and didn't check it after.
Blame it on all the hand washing. I can't do a thing with my fingers afterwards.

Blame it on all the hand washing. I can't do a thing with my fingers afterwards.

Don't make jokes about that. When I posted personal opinions and jokes about it on the BOINC forums, someone had to complain about me and wanted me gone as a moderator, because of the irreparable damage I personally did to the reputation of BOINC and its projects. So this is no joking matter. You could be expelled. I as well. But I don't care. :)

Besides, it's now a pandemic, so you best pick up on the hand washing. Perhaps wash the keyboard as well. Or just only type when in the shower!

And now the replica is 7,051 seconds behind, and validation and assimilation is not catching up either.

Validation has nothing to catch up. My tasks validate within about a minute from my client reporting them if my result fills the quorum. The problem is entirely in the assimilation.

I suggested a Search & Destroy mission days ago on All WUs with a "minimum quorum 1". Since then I have been unable to see the end of my Valid lists due to the Server refusing to load the pages. I have no idea what the Valid lists look like today, previously they had Hundreds of WUs marked as Validated with a minimum quorum 1 and an outstanding Wingman denying them Assimilation. Even if there aren't that many in the system, they could be causing 'other' problems holding up Assimilation. It was the only obvious problem with Assimilation I could find. IMO, definitely worth the trouble of Vaporizing them. Otherwise, they will meet their deadline on Mar 22-23, some time away...

I suggested a Search & Destroy mission days ago on All WUs with a "minimum quorum 1". Since then I have been unable to see the end of my Valid lists due to the Server refusing to load the pages. I have no idea what the Valid lists look like today, previously they had Hundreds of WUs marked as Validated with a minimum quorum 1 and an outstanding Wingman denying them Assimilation. Even if there aren't that many in the system, they could be causing 'other' problems holding up Assimilation. It was the only obvious problem with Assimilation I could find. IMO, definitely worth the trouble of Vaporizing them. Otherwise, they will meet their deadline on Mar 22-23, some time away...

You did. I read it clearly.
Edit: I think we will be waiting 11 or 12 days for the resolution.

I actually can pull up tasks right now. First time in a couple of days. This task looks interesting. Don't know what happened or why a 4th replication was generated when quorum was reached.
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3916150112

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I actually can pull up tasks right now. First time in a couple of days. This task looks interesting. Don't know what happened or why a 4th replication was generated when quorum was reached.
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3916150112

Eric wrote this on 8 January, and evidently it's still active:

Hopefully final validation mod to reduce bad results from failing GPUs
If 1 of 2 is overflow, quorum is increased to 3
If 1 of 3 is overflow, results are validated.
If 2 of 2 are overflow, quorum is increased to 3.
If 2 of 3 are overflow, quorum is increased to 4
If 3 of 3 are overflow, results are validated.
4 results are always validated.

Task 1 was overflow, quorum increased to 3, task 3 sent out.
Task 3 came back next - was overflow. 2 of 3 overflow, quorum increased to 4, task 4 sent out.
Task 2 came back, 3 of 3 are overflow, validated.

See if you can pull up the page containing the Jan 30-31 Valid results on a high end machine, see what WUs are there.

If Murphy's Law has anything to say about it, come Mar 22-23 many Resends will be issued on WUs that have been marked as Valid for 7 weeks. In true Murphy form, there will be just enough Resends to push the Database out of Server Ram causing Workflow to fall to a crawl. The final Week of SETI@Home will be spent with very few people receiving Work, and a board full of complaints. Oh well...

See if you can pull up the page containing the Jan 30-31 Valid results on a high end machine, see what WUs are there.

If Murphy's Law has anything to say about it, come Mar 22-23 many Resends will be issued on WUs that have been marked as Valid for 7 weeks. In true Murphy form, there will be just enough Resends to push the Database out of Server Ram causing Workflow to fall to a crawl. The final Week of SETI@Home will be spent with very few people receiving Work, and a board full of complaints. Oh well...

Yep, I can. All your minimum quorum=1 tasks are visible for the already validated task list. Still have to wait till March 23 for the wingman to report.

None of the tasks are overflows. Most are cpu tasks.

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Thanks for the explanation Richard. Looks like it is working as Eric configured.

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Thanks for the explanation Richard. Looks like it is working as Eric configured.

Looks like the culprit was Kittyman, returning Task 3 too quickly. Eric didn't think of that one!

Or Ville Saari for returning Task 2 too late. With W3Perl on drums, looks like you had quite a party there.

Thanks for the explanation Richard. Looks like it is working as Eric configured.

Looks like the culprit was Kittyman, returning Task 3 too quickly. Eric didn't think of that one!

Or Ville Saari for returning Task 2 too late. With W3Perl on drums, looks like you had quite a party there.

Ha ha ha LOL. Yes the GPUUG Pirate party is still full in swing getting the Seti Toaster for kittyman.

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Thanks for the explanation Richard. Looks like it is working as Eric configured.

Looks like the culprit was Kittyman, returning Task 3 too quickly. Eric didn't think of that one!

Or Ville Saari for returning Task 2 too late. With W3Perl on drums, looks like you had quite a party there.

Ha ha ha LOL. Yes the GPUUG Pirate party is still full in swing getting the Seti Toaster for kittyman.

The Kitty Toaster party is scheduled for tomorrow, all friends are invited to participate!

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The replica has blasted through the 3 hour mark.

I am going to PANIC shortly, with or without permission.

. . Stay calm and carry on!

Stephen

:)

The replica has blasted through the 3 hour mark.

I am going to PANIC shortly, with or without permission.

. . Stay calm and carry on!

Stephen

:)

I went out instead, but now I am back and the replica is 4¼ hours behind.
I would PANIC but it's late-ish and the neighbours might complain.
So I'll postpone the PANIC and make a decision after breakfast.

The replica has blasted through the 3 hour mark.

I am going to PANIC shortly, with or without permission.

. . Stay calm and carry on!

Stephen

:)

I went out instead, but now I am back and the replica is 4¼ hours behind.
I would PANIC but it's late-ish and the neighbours might complain.
So I'll postpone the PANIC and make a decision after breakfast.

Panic should be well considered and pondered (just before you freak out :)

Tom

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A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

I know we are in the vicious circle. To give the administration queue a chance to catch up I wonder whether or not it would be worth turning the replica database off, then letting catch up once the administration is caught up. There were a reasonable number of resends around last night because I had over 32

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Replica now 4,440555555555556 hours behind.
The whole DB part of the system is pretty much F'ed up, and will never recover before March 31st

I think the project will be around for at least another 2 to 4 months after the 31st two cleanup resends et cetera

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20 days to go until Zulu. ;-)

Cheers.