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Message 2021706 - Posted: 4 Dec 2019, 19:00:35 UTC - in response to Message 2021705.  

He's probably a member of this movement. 'English Only': The movement to limit Spanish speaking in US


There are 58 million Spanish speakers in the U.S, and 41 million speak it at home or otherwise on a regular basis. (Source). Good luck to that movement. :^)
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Message 2021708 - Posted: 4 Dec 2019, 19:23:45 UTC

https://magadailyreport.com/2019/12/bill-barr-indicts-8-people-for-illegally-funneling-millions-in-foreign-money-to-hillarys-campaign-in-2016/?fbclid=IwAR0IGi_EwQw7m9kCpgL5_BFg6pZbSs_JTL0x5cpbEXnyqQEgAlo5OwHYyAo
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Earlier today, an indictment was unsealed against the CEO of an online payment processing company, and seven others, charging them with conspiring to make and conceal conduit and excessive campaign contributions, and related offenses, during the U.S. presidential election in 2016 and thereafter.

Assistant Attorney General Brian A. Benczkowski of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division and Assistant Director in Charge Timothy R. Slater of the FBI’s Washington Field Office made the announcement.

A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia indicted Ahmad “Andy” Khawaja, 48, of Los Angeles, California, on Nov. 7, 2019, along with George Nader, Roy Boulos, Rudy Dekermenjian, Mohammad “Moe” Diab, Rani El-Saadi, Stevan Hill and Thayne Whipple. The 53 count indictment charges Khawaja with two counts of conspiracy, three counts of making conduit contributions, three counts of causing excessive contributions, 13 counts of making false statements, 13 counts of causing false records to be filed, and one count of obstruction of a federal grand jury investigation. Nader is charged with conspiring with Khawaja to make conduit campaign contributions, and related offenses. Boulos, Dekermenjian, Diab, El-Saadi, Hill, and Whipple are charged with conspiring with Khawaja and each other to make conduit campaign contributions and conceal excessive contributions, and related offenses.

Those 'chickens' appear to be coming home to roost.........

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Message 2021709 - Posted: 4 Dec 2019, 19:27:47 UTC - in response to Message 2021708.  

Just in case the story is doubted as it's on a site called "MAGA Daily Report", here is the official DOJ release.
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Message 2021713 - Posted: 4 Dec 2019, 20:06:56 UTC - in response to Message 2021709.  

Just in case the story is doubted as it's on a site called "MAGA Daily Report", here is the official DOJ release.
"MAGA Daily Report" didn't quote the full DOJ report. They left this quote.
An indictment is not a finding of guilt. It merely alleges that crimes have been committed. A defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
I wonder why:)
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Message 2021719 - Posted: 4 Dec 2019, 21:13:06 UTC

Ah, after listening to hours of testimony the Republicans had one witness and he was lucid. Unfortunately for them he could nor did not make a case for Trump being innocent. This has them settining their hair on fire and instead they are attacking the Democrat witnesses.
Fox News Legal Analysts: GOP Impeachment Witness Is 'Simply Wrong'

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-legal-analysts-gop-impeachment-witness-jonathan-turley-is-simply-wrong
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Message 2021720 - Posted: 4 Dec 2019, 21:17:41 UTC - in response to Message 2021672.  

Talk about calling the kettle black!
Responding to the video, Mr Trump called Mr Trudeau "two-faced".
The shoe is now on the other foot my dear Donald, don't like it do you!
v2.0 just loves to keep showing us just how much of a ignorant hypocrite he really is.
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Message 2021734 - Posted: 4 Dec 2019, 22:23:04 UTC - in response to Message 2021706.  

He's probably a member of this movement. 'English Only': The movement to limit Spanish speaking in US


There are 58 million Spanish speakers in the U.S, and 41 million speak it at home or otherwise on a regular basis. (Source). Good luck to that movement. :^)

https://apnews.com/25e2f36b05b5eb2ad6c050493f195202
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Message 2021736 - Posted: 4 Dec 2019, 22:29:00 UTC
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Who were at the NATO meeting?

But I haven't see any group hugs... Oh many countries doesn't pay the fee.
Funny that both Donald Trump and Boris Johnson pose in the same position grabbing their legs:)
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Message 2021738 - Posted: 4 Dec 2019, 22:32:09 UTC - in response to Message 2021734.  

He's probably a member of this movement. 'English Only': The movement to limit Spanish speaking in US
There are 58 million Spanish speakers in the U.S, and 41 million speak it at home or otherwise on a regular basis. (Source). Good luck to that movement. :^)
https://apnews.com/25e2f36b05b5eb2ad6c050493f195202
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I think that some just get a kick out of being an embarrassment to the human race. :-(
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Message 2021742 - Posted: 4 Dec 2019, 22:40:47 UTC - in response to Message 2021709.  

Just in case the story is doubted as it's on a site called "MAGA Daily Report", here is the official DOJ release.

Quite interesting, reading the official release and not the MAGA fiction.
"Among other things, these contributions allegedly allowed Khawaja to host ... a private fundraising dinner for an elected official in 2018."


Now who was in office in 2018? Was Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama in office in 2018? What do you bet the event was for Rump! After all he was in office in 2018!
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Message 2021752 - Posted: 5 Dec 2019, 0:01:53 UTC

All taunting and rancor aside there are three questions I'd like posters on this thread to answer honestly, not for rebuttal but for the record.

Question #1) Do you believe the US House of Representatives will vote to impeach President Donald Trump?

Question #2) Do you believe the US Senate will convict President Donald Trump of 'High Crimes and Misdemeanors'?

Question #3) Do you believe the expense of time and taxpayer funds have benefited the Citizens of the United States of America?

In advance and for the record my answers are #1 Yes, #2 No, #3 No.

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Message 2021753 - Posted: 5 Dec 2019, 0:17:23 UTC - in response to Message 2021752.  
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Question #1) Do you believe the US House of Representatives will vote to impeach President Donald Trump?

Yes. Sufficient votes have been confirmed.

Question #2) Do you believe the US Senate will convict President Donald Trump of 'High Crimes and Misdemeanors'?

No. I think for a two-third majority that twenty Republican senators would have to vote to convict. Confirmations thus far: zero. I don't think that this will change by more than one or two votes.

Question #3) Do you believe the expense of time and taxpayer funds have benefited the Citizens of the United States of America?

I can't determine yet until the results are complete and the outcome is seen. If POTUS Trump really did have the intent of hanging aid funds on digging up dirt on a rival in order to win an election, then I think that it is the duty of the opposition party (and sadly, not his own) to do what they can to oppose this by whatever legal means are at their disposal, even though it is doomed to failure, because it is the correct thing to do to keep your democracy, the most important democracy in this little world, working properly... all that may be the result is that it was brought to public light, but that may be enough. However that is a very large "if", hanging mostly on testimony, which as anyone knows can be unreliable (thus the volume of it required in order for correlation.)

I did notice that when POTUS was called on the plan to host the G7 at Mar-A-Lago, that he changed this almost immediately, recognizing that this would have been a physical-evidence as opposed to testimonial violation of the emoluments clause that would have been added to the Articles with possibly more weight, but he has not similarly backed down on this which may possibly mean that at least he did not think he was doing anything wrong ie intent. So, I'm still ambiguous.
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Message 2021755 - Posted: 5 Dec 2019, 0:29:37 UTC - in response to Message 2021752.  
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All taunting and rancor aside there are three questions I'd like posters on this thread to answer honestly, not for rebuttal but for the record.
Question #1) Do you believe the US House of Representatives will vote to impeach President Donald Trump?
Question #2) Do you believe the US Senate will convict President Donald Trump of 'High Crimes and Misdemeanors'?
Question #3) Do you believe the expense of time and taxpayer funds have benefited the Citizens of the United States of America?
In advance and for the record my answers are #1 Yes, #2 No, #3 No.
Actually my answers as an outsider says no to all questions. What's the point to impeach him now. It's only a year before he have to leave the office down voted by the American people. Yes I'm quite sure he will lose his final battle. Unless he start talking "I'm not a crook" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh163n1lJ4M
Well. Let's see what China think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5sR_2wspR8
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Message 2021757 - Posted: 5 Dec 2019, 0:37:01 UTC - in response to Message 2021755.  
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It's only a year before he have to leave the office down voted by the American people. Yes I'm quite sure he will lose his final battle.


I'm not so sure... the China trade deal will be confirmed in 2020 and kick the economy back into high gear, he still has very firm support of roughly 95% registered Republicans and roughly 95% of them make sure to vote, he wasn't implicated in the Mueller Report, the impeachment conviction/removal is almost certainly not going to happen (and, need I add, he hasn't started any wars yet. :^) ) So I still think it's quite possible he may get a second term.
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Message 2021758 - Posted: 5 Dec 2019, 0:39:15 UTC - in response to Message 2021757.  

I'm trying to have some positive thinking here:)
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Message 2021766 - Posted: 5 Dec 2019, 1:53:34 UTC - in response to Message 2021752.  

Before answering your questions, I have a quick question. What's your time frame?

And you might want to take in the comments of, Jonathan Turley, a George Washington University law professor who was the only Republican-selected witness of four legal scholars who testified at the House Judiciary Committee’s opening impeachment hearing.

Calling “the abbreviated period of this investigation” both problematic and puzzling, Mr. Turley said Congress had assembled “a facially incomplete and inadequate record in order to impeach a president.” The evidence has gaps because of “unsubpoenaed witnesses with material evidence,” he argued, and it is wrong to move forward without hearing from them.


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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/us/politics/turley-impeachment.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Also, CNN - Washington Post: Barr's handpicked prosecutor tells watchdog he doesn't have evidence Russia probe was a setup (originally WaPo)
Washington (CNN)The prosecutor chosen by Attorney General William Barr to examine how US agencies investigated President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign has said he cannot provide evidence to the Justice Department's inspector general in support of a theory that the case was a setup, people familiar with the matter told The Washington Post.
Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz contacted multiple US intelligence agencies and Connecticut federal prosecutor John Durham -- who Barr appointed to lead a separate review of the 2016 investigation into potential coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia -- to ask whether a Maltese professor who communicated with a Trump campaign staffer was actually a US intelligence asset attempting to trap the campaign, the people told The Post.
The intelligence agencies said the professor was not their asset and Durham told Horowitz he didn't have evidence that would refute the inspector general's findings on that point, the people said.

Horowitz's report, which is due to be released next Monday, is expected to conclude that the FBI's investigation was legally predicated, despite errors and potential wrongdoing by some lower-level FBI employees involved in it, CNN reported last month.


So the Republican Law expert says delay and a key part of Trump's defense has no substance.
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Message 2021769 - Posted: 5 Dec 2019, 2:10:56 UTC - in response to Message 2021752.  

#1 Yes, #2 No, #3 No.
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Message 2021772 - Posted: 5 Dec 2019, 2:18:01 UTC - in response to Message 2021770.  

As per the Mueller Report, the Democrat's Hearings and now apparently Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz 's investigation.

Both sides are crying.

It is hoped that reality, after the understood temper tantrums subside. We can return to reality.

Unfortunately, this hope has been repeatedly dashed :(

In all reality, returning to a situation similar to that before Trump took office will probably not happen in the next 20 years.
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Message 2021774 - Posted: 5 Dec 2019, 2:31:40 UTC

Question #1) Do you believe the US House of Representatives will vote to impeach President Donald Trump?
Question #2) Do you believe the US Senate will convict President Donald Trump of 'High Crimes and Misdemeanors'?
Question #3) Do you believe the expense of time and taxpayer funds have benefited the Citizens of the United States of America?

#1 Yes
#2 No
#3 Yes
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