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Message 2042763 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 13:42:56 UTC
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There are 193 countries which are members of the United Nations. The 18 countries without Covid-19:
Comoros; Kiribati; Lesotho; Marshall Islands; Micronesia; Nauru; North Korea; Palau; Samoa; Sao Tome and Principe; Solomon Islands; South Sudan; Tajikistan; Tonga; Turkmenistan; Tuvalu; Vanuatu, Yemen

In North Korea, no reported cases and more missile tests...


In Turkmenistan, the authoritarian regime has banned the word Covid-19 itself, according to the Press Freedom Organization Reporters Without Borders (RSF). Anyone who mentions corona virus on the street or bus may be arrested.
In state media, it is as if the virus has never existed. And the word corona virus has been removed from health leaflets distributed in schools, hospitals and workplaces, according to the Turkmenistan Chronicle, which is one of the few independent sources of what is happening in the closed and isolated country.

Yemen...
https://www.trtworld.com/opinion/the-coronavirus-threat-to-yemen-35029
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Message 2042764 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 13:46:42 UTC

.. As for the Captain on the US carrier. He did what is supposed to do.

But, he did so in a public forum, not through the chain of command. moomin as a former member of a military force you should understand that. When you go around the chain, this is the result.

The Captain of the Roosevelt knew that, and proceeded with what he felt was his duty to his personnel which I totally respect, but he put his superiors in a position where they had no choice but to remove him from the command. Bad for morale and it revealed publicly a potential vulnerability on a vital element of the US defense force leaving those same sailors open to possible attack by someone stupid enough to do so.

Had that been the Captain of a Chinese or Russian Carrier, he would have 'disappeared' permanently and been releved of his life.

In North Korea, no reported cases and more missile tests...


....no REPORTED cases.......also no reported cases of death by starvation so it's obviously not happening...........right?

Also............sad but the truth.......


"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
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Message 2042768 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 13:57:56 UTC - in response to Message 2042756.  

But the rate of change dictates how well the system can cope, especially when resources are limited.

If there are only a certain number of manned beds available and the numbers climb too fast then the hospitals will run out of beds. If the rate can be slowed then there is a chance that the system won't get swamped before more resources come online.

The rate of change is very important, and the White House (the IHME) model was too optimistic, in using a number that worked out as doubling in four days, when the data is showing a doubling in three days. The difference will double the cases in a 28 day period, so instead of having an upper limit of 240,000 it is more like half a million. Unless measures are enforced more rigorously in all states.
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Message 2042769 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 14:02:58 UTC - in response to Message 2042764.  
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.. As for the Captain on the US carrier. He did what is supposed to do.

But, he did so in a public forum, not through the chain of command. moomin as a former member of a military force you should understand that. When you go around the chain, this is the result.
No. You are wrong. Seems like you haven't served your country. Not knowing exactly what happened in this case but I'm pretty sure the Captain asked for help within chain of command but didn't get any and later decided to go public. A problem though is that Guam don't have the facilities to accommodate so many sick people and they refused to comply.
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Message 2042773 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 14:25:44 UTC - in response to Message 2042764.  

Acting Navy secretary Thomas Modly has since walked back the claim that Captain Crozier "leaked" the letter to the San Francisco Chronicle, How it got there no one is saying at the moment.

And what do you do when over 100 men have tested positive but those in higher positions say it is only a few dozen. His men seem to think he is the best Captain they've ever had.

And apparently the navy is now scrambling to remove 2,700 personnel from the ship, an act that should have started over a week ago.
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Message 2042816 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 20:43:56 UTC

The U.S. has now passed 270,000 and accounts for 25% of all reported cases while Italy (119K) and Spain (117K) continue their fight over 2nd spot. Turkey is now into 9th spot and the next country on the cards to go ballistic is possibly going to be Indonesia.

But there are some who are sliding down the list and if you want to leave China out of that it still leaves South Korea and Australia.
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Message 2042822 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 21:27:01 UTC - in response to Message 2042816.  

The U.S. has now passed 270,000 and accounts for 25% of all reported cases while Italy (119K) and Spain (117K) continue their fight over 2nd spot.
The reported cases from countries doesn't really tell anything more then that some countries test more then other. Perhaps deaths/1M pop is more accurate. Then San Marino is in the lead by far (884). Followed by Italy (243) and Spain (243). The US is on (21) while Sweden is on (35) and Turkey is on (5).
All these number will change day by day. Sometimes very dramatically... Like Turkey's tomorrow...
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Message 2042827 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 21:45:39 UTC - in response to Message 2042823.  

But watch the three below video's:
[quote]Sailors aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt cheered their commander, Capt. Brett Crozier, as he departed the ship after being relieved of duty for sounding the alarm over a coronavirus outbreak.
https://www.towleroad.com/2020/04/sailors-cheer-ousted-navy-commander-as-he-departs-ship-captain-crozier-captain-crozier-watch/
That's more like it.
https://twitter.com/The_UnSilent_/status/1246042796714147840
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Message 2042829 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 21:56:19 UTC - in response to Message 2042773.  

Acting Navy secretary Thomas Modly has since walked back the claim that Captain Crozier "leaked" the letter to the San Francisco Chronicle, How it got there no one is saying at the moment.
Probably found out it came from his area.
And apparently the navy is now scrambling to remove 2,700 personnel from the ship, an act that should have started over a week ago.
Hope the replacement crew speak up & ask for confirmation the ship has been disinfected.
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Message 2042849 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 23:41:24 UTC - in response to Message 2042773.  
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Acting Navy secretary Thomas Modly has since walked back the claim that Captain Crozier "leaked" the letter to the San Francisco Chronicle, How it got there no one is saying at the moment.

And what do you do when over 100 men have tested positive but those in higher positions say it is only a few dozen. His men seem to think he is the best Captain they've ever had.

And apparently the navy is now scrambling to remove 2,700 personnel from the ship, an act that should have started over a week ago.

2 points, no good deed will go unpunished and only a couple of dozen cases on a fully crewed aircraft carrier is a fully loaded petri dish ready to explode.
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Message 2042870 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 1:36:28 UTC

2 points, no good deed will go unpunished and only a couple of dozen cases on a fully crewed aircraft carrier is a fully loaded petri dish ready to explode.


I've been on U S Navy Aircraft Carriers and on 'Oilers' - deep draft ships where to be Carrier Captains, get their DEEP DRAFT Experience - 'cause you DO NOT get COMMAND of Carrier until you've DONE DEEP DRAFT.

And I was 6 feet and more away many times from dA Nearest 'Swabbie'. Many places on board a Carrier and 'Oiler' to 'put' a diseased Sailor until Better 'Quarters' can be 'found'.

Until then it is a Captains Duty to Stand Tall and Get 'er Done.

Go GO GO wif HYDROXY Baby!!!!!

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 2042873 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 1:54:14 UTC - in response to Message 2042870.  

Berthing on a naval ship is a peti dish.
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Message 2042874 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 1:58:57 UTC

Something I've been thinking about. What is happening with all the other things that go on worldwide? The whole damn new is only about the pandemic or other related topics.
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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.
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Message 2042876 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 2:11:54 UTC - in response to Message 2042874.  

Something I've been thinking about. What is happening with all the other things that go on worldwide? The whole damn new is only about the pandemic or other related topics.

+1

To the rest of us it can seem if it ain't about covid (important) or Trump or about something else about the USA like guns it really doesn't get discussed here!
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Message 2042883 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 3:40:41 UTC
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Berthing on a naval ship is a peti dish.


When I was in da Nav 'bout 50 year ago, da 'Berths' had Curtains and a nice light fO reading.

So, ifn I wanted to sneeze; cough; or blow a Big Hugeee, it could 'Splatter' on da curtains.

But, wat do I know?

I remember doin' 'jobs' on a Ship and Not see a Soul fo hours and hours and hours.

How was dat Social Distancing when CAP left da Ship? All dat - like we use to say in boot camp - all dat nut to butt 'Closeness' as they Cheered GOoDbye.

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Message 2042886 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 4:08:36 UTC - in response to Message 2042876.  

Something I've been thinking about. What is happening with all the other things that go on worldwide? The whole damn new is only about the pandemic or other related topics.

+1

To the rest of us it can seem if it ain't about covid (important) or Trump or about something else about the USA like guns it really doesn't get discussed here!

So much virus that I can't even find the local weather forecast! The news radio at least still gives the traffic report, but that is now "roads open, slow down, watch your speed, brought to you by XYZ."

I did see DPRK did some more launches. Also saw a lunatic, with a price on his head, had a tiny patrol boat ram an icebreaker repeatedly with the expected result that the patrol boat is on the bottom. Lunatic is screaming that he was attacked. Wait until the world sees the video. Think there was an earthquake or three out there. Some idiots are climbing a mountain, despite not having permits.
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Message 2042890 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 4:40:23 UTC

Well ppl Welcome to 21st century , no news but Covid - 19 ???

the INTERNET and streaming .....!

Some are asking why are the death rates different from country to country and it's the Testing rate !

Australian Governments Chief health officer Doctor (somebody) :)

Say's he did not trust the data from other country's because of there testing rates , and he would only be using the Australian Testing data ...! ?

He said all country's China , U.S.A . Europe , Italy ............

Australia has tested 1% of the population . 24 mill ppl population of Australia

He also said he believes that the death rate is in fact lower than what has been reported , due to the fact he thinks there are in fact many times more ppl infected ,
in country's that are not testing at rates of Australia, Singapore and others ......

I gues we will see , i am expecting our death rate to start increasing in the the next 5 -9 days as the cruse ship in flux no. start to take effect .

I hope he is correct on the death rate , as if he is wrong but , correct on the unreported infection rate some country's are in for a lot more trouble
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Message 2042892 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 5:04:39 UTC - in response to Message 2042886.  

Something I've been thinking about. What is happening with all the other things that go on worldwide? The whole damn new is only about the pandemic or other related topics.

+1

To the rest of us it can seem if it ain't about covid (important) or Trump or about something else about the USA like guns it really doesn't get discussed here!

So much virus that I can't even find the local weather forecast! The news radio at least still gives the traffic report, but that is now "roads open, slow down, watch your speed, brought to you by XYZ."

I did see DPRK did some more launches. Also saw a lunatic, with a price on his head, had a tiny patrol boat ram an icebreaker repeatedly with the expected result that the patrol boat is on the bottom. Lunatic is screaming that he was attacked. Wait until the world sees the video. Think there was an earthquake or three out there. Some idiots are climbing a mountain, despite not having permits.

But did you find any Cornish Pasties?
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Message 2042912 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 8:45:30 UTC - in response to Message 2042892.  

Something I've been thinking about. What is happening with all the other things that go on worldwide? The whole damn new is only about the pandemic or other related topics.

+1

To the rest of us it can seem if it ain't about covid (important) or Trump or about something else about the USA like guns it really doesn't get discussed here!

So much virus that I can't even find the local weather forecast! The news radio at least still gives the traffic report, but that is now "roads open, slow down, watch your speed, brought to you by XYZ."

I did see DPRK did some more launches. Also saw a lunatic, with a price on his head, had a tiny patrol boat ram an icebreaker repeatedly with the expected result that the patrol boat is on the bottom. Lunatic is screaming that he was attacked. Wait until the world sees the video. Think there was an earthquake or three out there. Some idiots are climbing a mountain, despite not having permits.

But did you find any Cornish Pasties?
They had tassels.
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Message 2042940 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 14:42:12 UTC - in response to Message 2042764.  

Had that been the Captain of a Chinese or Russian Carrier, he would have 'disappeared' permanently and been releved of his life.

It's a ridiculous misinformation about modern Russia.
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