“OAN. Very good,” he said after calling on Rion in one briefing. “They treat me very nicely.”

It is well known Trump much prefers to have his ego stroked rather than hear the truth.

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Understanding that many outside of China did not understand the deadliness of this disease because of the Chinese Government's lies. Mistakes in judgement does not reduce the responsibly of China's lies in the deaths of those who would not have died.

Not true!

Health experts issued an ominous warning about a coronavirus pandemic 3 months ago. The virus in their simulation killed 65 million people.

Their only error is that they probably underestimated it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/scientist-simulated-coronavirus-pandemic-deaths-2020-1

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You mean start a plague, then when it backfires spectacularly, believe yourself invincible, and then when that too blows in your face, blame the original intended victims? The first affected countries were China and Iran, declared enemies of the United States. How strange...

....IF, sir, you are saying this was started, intentionally, by the United States as a bio-attack against China and Iran (which would appear to be the case by your usage of the term 'intended victims'), that is a farcical idea which can be easily refuted logically.

And yet, it holds more water than saying China spread the coronavirus.

IF your parroting of the Chinese propaganda machine's lie were true please explain WHY would the 'intended victims' conceal the magnitude of the outbreak, it's level of contagiousness, and the number of deaths involved? Were your fairy tale factual the authorities there would have been shouting it from the rooftops with color videos of mass deaths to curry favor from the court of World Opinion(as worthless as that usually is).

Isn't it obvious? Just think, they wouldn't have known where the virus actually came from. And while they tried to silence the whistleblower doctor at first, they didn't "conceal" the magnitude of the outbreak once it truly started. Failure from the West to listen isn't synonymous with no warning.

And WHY would they tell the WHO it's not contagious and no threat to world health?

World Health Organization (WHO)
@WHO
Twitter Jan 14
Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China

Easy: because of the long incubation period and the large proportion of asymptomatic cases, they simply had no way to realise how many people were truly infected. They could have spotted isolated symptomatic people without realising the link between them were outwardly healthy people. Ignorance isn't a lie.

The outbreak and level of infection in Iran can be explained by the number of Chinese immigrant workers in the City of Qom, just like the the level in Lombardi Italy, again hundreds of thousands of Chinese immigrant workers traveling to and from Hubei.

And yet, Italy was affected sensibly later. Also, the strains in China and Iran are different.

Again, Occam's Razor.

Indeed. And you know what it actually tells me? The virus is natural, the result of a random mutation which suddenly made it much more contagious and triggered an outbreak. China isn't concealing its numbers any more than just any other country which doesn't report all coronavirus cases and deaths (hint, neither France nor the US are). They didn't "let" the virus spread, they simply had to handle a very contagious virus, having to learn everything about it along the way. And they have fewer cases than Western countries simply because they implemented very brutal confinement measures soon enough to stop transmission it its tracks.

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Gazing at the skies, hoping for contact... Unlikely, but it would be such a fantastic opportunity to learn.

My alternative profile

Let's face it, some people will never understand how others live outside of their own backyards, but the main things that will come out in the end of this are,

1/ Which countries acted swiftly enough with enough preventative measures, getting enough testing/tracking done and those which also have the better healthcare systems.

2/ It will also show those that were found lacking in any or all cases.

Today the C.S.I.R.O in Australia , the Worlds best Pactice Research Ornanisation . Has announce trails of 2 Vaccines

The C.S.I.R.O are working with International partners . Oxford Uni in England HAS already completed Phase 1 trails

Phase 2 will only commence if the Animal trails being done by the Australian C.S.I.R.O are positive .

Why is it important that the Australian trail be done . Well..

The C.S.I.R.O have there own Genetic Platform that unlike others is NOT experimental . It is a proven Platform

S.A.R.S and the HENDRA vaccines have been use as prof it works. So for these animal trails to commence they would first have to
pass the C.S.I.R.O's platform
The animals have been given the vaccines and in 3 weeks will be exposed to the Covid 19 virus let's hope they work so
Phase 2 Human trails can start

Hendra virus is a virus that is transmitted from Flying Fox's (BATS) to horse to horse and has crossed to humans

It has caused big problems here in the horse racing industry and is deadly to horses and HUMANS
There have been HUMAN deaths from it

C.S,I.R.O are responisble for I.V.F and WI-FI just to name 2 of the biggest things they have come up with so fingers crossed they can
solve this problem a lot of there work is in animal husbandry , Medicine for animals witch can and is transferable to humans so they do know what the hell there doing and we can all trust them 100%

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Antibodies test coming very soon. A huge relief for Medical Warriors.

And

Hydroxy you-know-what is comin' on STRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


CV going DOWN. Fast. Real Fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hail to SUPERTrump

Yep

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Did someone in the leadership of Extinction Rebellion watch 12 Monkeys ?

CV going DOWN. Fast. Real Fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also believe in the Easter bunny.

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And yet, it holds more water than saying China spread the coronavirus.

Keep on 'drinkin' the Kool Aid.....China's serving it by the tanker full. You'll look good carrying your Mao's Little Red Book around.

Also, the strains in China and Iran are different.

I assume you have PROOF of this statement with sources cited??????
I don't see any.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but 'Made In China' is engraved on every case of the WuHu Flu, whether made in a lab or a natural occurrence because some local Ozzie Osborn ate a bat.

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You know if it was intentional by China why Didn't the Great Man TRump see it or your Armed forces , Spy networks ??? and why did you let them win by not preventing it .

All hail TRUMP , Capitalism , and selfishness ....:)

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You can add France to the countries where the actual total is higher than reported. The official figure only includes those who died in hospital.
Reuters - French coronavirus death tally much higher than official data: hospitals chief

Italy’s Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported

And why would they under report the 'butcher's bill'?

The threat of all that Beijing cash investment going away? Here's a piece from an author living in Lombardy. Gives great insight of just how Italy began 'riding the tiger'.....

ITALY's RECIPE FOR DISASTER

_By Giacomino Nicolazzo (one of my favorite journalist/writers)
March 24, 2020

How the Corona Virus became so bad in Italy

As I sit here in my involuntary isolation, it was just reported that overnight 743 more people died and 5.249 new cases have been reported. This brings the total cases of infection to 69,176 and the body count to 6,820. We take relief in knowing that 8,326 people have recovered so far. (Numbers as of 3/24, 8:30pm in Italy.)

Most towns here in Italy, from the upper reaches of the Alps to the ancient shores of Sicilia and Sardenia, while not deserted, are closer to being ghost towns than the bustling centers of tourism, business and daily life they were just a few weeks ago.

Stores and shops have been shuttered. Restaurants and coffee shops no longer serve customers. Schools, universities, sporting arenas…even our museums and theaters…all closed. Even the Vatican City has closed its gates and armed patrols monitor the 20 foot tall walls that protect it!

Streets and roads are now empty for as far as the eye can see. Normally they would be filled with crazed Italian drivers in tiny cars and scooters (the ones that sound like demonic insects) darting here and there, reaching the limits of centrifugal force on our roundabouts. In the piazze of our towns and cities, there are now officially more pigeons than people.

Many of us know someone who has been infected and recovered. Some of us know someone who did not recover…now they are dead. But everyone knows someone who has been affected by this microscopic monster in one way or another.

Sixty million of us are in lockdown…it is like a war zone here. We are being held prisoner in our own homes by an unseen enemy that sneaked in unnoticed…by most of us. As you will read in just a few more minutes, there were those who knew something like this was coming…or at least they should have.
So who is to blame? With all this craziness swirling like a whirlpool at our feet, I just had to find the blame answer. And so I have spent my free time (of which I have a lot in these days) digging and researching. I was literally shocked to discover how this has come to be.

I am not going to bore you with talk of Patient ‘0’ who spread it to Patient ‘1’ and how mathematics efficiently explains the rapid expansion of infection. No…I am going to tell you how (as I see it) the virus came to Italy.

It has everything to do with communists. Allow me to explain.

Beginning in about 2014, Matteo Renzi, the imbecile ex-mayor of Firenze (Florence) acting as the leader of the Partito Democratico (synonymous with the Italian Communist party), somehow managed to get himself elected as Italy’s Prime Minister. To give you a proper frame of reference, Matteo Renzi was so far left, he would make Barack Obama look like Barry Goldwater!

At the same time that Renzi was leading Italy into oblivion, strange things were happening in Italy’s economy. Banks were failing…but not closing. Retirement ages were being extended…for some reason the pension funds were dwindling or disappearing. The national sales tax we call IVA (Value Added Tax) rose from 18% to 20%, then to 21% and again to 22%.

And in the midst of all this financial chicanery, the Chinese began furiously buying up Italian real estate and businesses in the North.

Now the reason I mention Renzi and the Chinese together is that strange things were also going on between the governments of Italy and China. A blind eye was being turned to the way the Chinese were buying businesses in the financial, telecommunication, industrial and fashion sectors of Italy’s economy, all of which take place in Milano.

To be brief…China was getting away with purchases and acquisitions in violation of Italian law and EU Trade Agreements with the US and the UK…and no one in either of those countries (not Obama in the US or Cameron in the UK) said a thing in their country’s defense. As a matter of fact, much of it was hidden from the public in all three countries.
In 2014, China infused the Italian economy with €5 billion through purchases of companies costing less than €100 million each. By the time Renzi left office (in disgrace) in 2016, Chinese acquisitions had exceeded €52 billion. When the dust settled, China owned more than 300 companies…representing 27% of the major Italian corporations.

The Bank of China now owns five major banks in Italy…all of which had been secretly (and illegally) propped up by Renzi using pilfered pension funds! Soon after, the China Milano Equity Exchange was opened and much of Italy’s wealth was being funneled back to the Chinese mainland.

Chinese state entities own Italy’s major telecommunication corporation (Telecom) as well as its major utilities (ENI and ENEL). Upon entry into the telecommunication market, Huawei established a facility in Segrate, a suburb of Milano. It launched is first research center there and worked on the study of microwaves which has resulted in the possibly-dangerous technology we call 5G.

China also now owns controlling interest in Fiat-Chrysler, Prysmian and Terna. You will be surprised to know that when you put a set of Pirelli tires on your car, the profits are going to China. Yep…the Chinese colossus of ChemChina, a chemical industry titan, bought that company too!

Last but not least is Ferretti yachts…the most prestigious yacht builder in Europe. Incredibly, it is no longer owned by the Ferretti family.

But the sector in which Chinese companies invested most was Italy’s profitable fashion industry. The Pinco Pallino, Miss Sixty, Sergio Tacchini, Roberta di Camerino and Mariella Burani brands have been acquired by 100%.

Designer Salvatore Ferragamo sold 16% and Caruso sold 35%. The most famous case is Krizia, purchased in 2014 by Shenzhen Marisfrolg Fashion Company, one of the leaders of high-priced, ready-to-wear fashions in Asia.

Throughout all of these purchases and acquisitions, Renzi’s government afforded the Chinese unrestricted and unfettered access to Italy and its financial markets, many coming through without customs inspections.

Quite literally, tens of thousands of Chinese came in through Milano (illegally) and went back out carrying money, technology and corporate secrets.

Thousands more were allowed to enter and disappeared into shadows of Milano and other manufacturing cities of Lombardy, only to surface in illegal sewing shops, producing knock-off designer clothes and slapping ‘Made In Italy’ labels on them. All with the tacit approval of the Renzi government.
It was not until there was a change in the governing party in Italy that the sweatshops and the illegal entry and departure of Chinese nationals was stopped. Matteo Salvini, representing the Lega Nord party, closed Italy’s ports to immigrants and systematically began disassembling the sweatshops and deporting those in Italy illegally.

But his rise to power was short-lived. Italy is a communist country…socialism is in the national DNA. Ways were found to remove Salvini, after which the communist party, under the direction of Giuseppe Conte, reopened the ports. Immediately, thousands of unvetted, undocumented refugees from the Middle East and East Africa began pouring in again.

Access was again provided to the Chinese, under the old terms, and as a consequence thousands of Chinese, the majority from Wuhan, began arriving in Milano.

In December of last year, the first inklings of a coronavirus were noticed in Lombardy…in the Chinese neighborhoods. There is no doubt amongst senior medical officials that the virus was brought here from China.
By the end of January 2020 cases were being reported left and right. By mid-February the virus was beginning to seriously overload the Lombardy hospitals and medical clinics. They are now in a state of collapse.

The Far-Left politicians sold out and betrayed the Italian people with open border policies and social justice programs. One of the reasons the health care system collapsed so quickly is because the Renzi government (and now continued under the Conte government) redirected funds meant to sustain the medical system, to pay for the tens of thousands of immigrants brought in to Italy against the will of the Italian people.

If you remember the horrible earthquake that decimated the villages around Amatricia, in the mountains east of Rome in 2015, you would also remember how the world responded by sending millions of dollars to help those affected.

But there is a law in Italy that prevents private donations to charitable Italian organizations. All money and donations received must be turned over to a government agency, who in turn is to appropriate the funds as needed. But that agency is corrupt just as are all the others.

Most of the money never reached a single victim in the mountains. The Renzi government redirected the vast majority of those funds to pay for the growing immigrant and refugee costs.

As the economy worsened under the burden of illegal immigration, compounded by gross government spending and incompetence, unemployment rose quickly…especially among young people. The unemployment rate for men and women under age 35 is close to 40%.

So more money was diverted from the health care system and used to pay what is known here as guaranteed income. Whether you work or not you are paid here, especially if you belong to the PD! The government simply raises taxes on those who do work.

Let me give you a quick example of the height of insanity to which Italian taxation has risen. If you live in a building that has a balcony or balconies…and any of those balconies cast a shadow on the ground, you must pay a public shadow tax! I will say no more!

The point I am trying to make here is that not only did the Chinese bring the virus to Italy (and the rest of the world) it was far-Left politics and policies that facilitated it.

This should hopefully be a warning to Americans that while they work to rid themselves of the China Virus, they should just as vehemently endeavor to rid their government of any politician that circumvents the Constitution and ignores the laws of the land…plain and simple.
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Giacomino Nicolazzo is one of Italy’s most beloved writers. Born and raised in Central Pennsylvania, he lives in a small village in Lombardy where he writes his books.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Sorry I don't see a connection to the corona virus .
They got it because it's a gateway to Europe full stop .

Now weather there known for going to fat RIGHT or left in politics

There Italian !!...Mafia and all that . The Virus is just that ... a VIRUS

They haven't really been able to pull them self's out of that thing ppl tend to forget about the GFC
and if it remember wasn't that ubder the stewardship of the Right wing !!

And the world pay for that uck up too!! . So maybe Italy's problems started with the GFC and what's that Country' called U,S,A?

so like I said I don't see the connection to covid 19 and China being responsible for the fact Italy have
made a lot of mistakes.

If Italy want's to go all Commie !! it's there choice not China's bidding........ geeeeees

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From your linked article. https://www.mymilitia.com/forums/topic/65815-yes-it-is-the-chinese-communist-virus/

The point I am trying to make here is that not only did the Chinese bring the virus to Italy (and the rest of the world) it was far-Left politics and policies that facilitated it.

Italy hasn't "facilitated" the spread of the corona virus and it wouldn't helped whatever type of government they have.
They simply were unprepared to a pandemic. Like most any other country.
For decades every country have been cutting down on health care preparedness.

Hopefully VERY good news........

https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/04/02/810405/

Infectious Disease Specialist Tells Fox News: ‘This is the Beginning of the End of the Pandemic’Posted at 8:36 am on April 2, 2020 by Elizabeth Vaughn

Dr. Stephen Smith, whom Fox News’ Laura Ingraham describes as one of the preeminent infectious disease specialists in the U.S., announced some very good news which, if true, would be a game changer in the fight against the Chinese coronavirus.

For those of us who are unfamiliar with some of the terms, he explained that when a patient goes into respiratory failure, they are intubated (they insert a tube into the patient’s trachea), and placed on a ventilator. He said that, so far, 20 of his patients have been intubated. And that has generally happened on day two.

Here is the great news. Dr. Smith said, “No person who has received five days or more of the hydroxychloroquine-zithro combination has been intubated. The chance of that occurring by chance [sic] according to my sons Leon and Hunter who did some stats for me are .000 something. It’s ridiculously low no matter how you look at it.”

Smith added, “We worry about selection bias in this situation. But I cannot think of a reason why, if all else is equal, why people that have received five days or more or even four days or more of this hydroxychloroquine-zithro regimen wouldn’t get intubated.”

He calls this “a game-changer. An absolute game-changer. I think this data goes to really support the French data” and went so far as to say, “Laura, I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic.”

....Bye the Bye.......still haven't seen any sources cited for the 'difference' in strains between China WuHu Flu and Italian or Iranian WuHu Flu..... ??? (maybe it's in the Secret Sauce).

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Viruses are always changing - just about every time they infect a host and then get transmitted onto another victim a tiny bit changes., so what started out in China will be subtly different in another country. With the scale and nature of the difference depending on which route it took to get there - If it arrived directly by air it will be more similar to the Chinese source than if if passed through several other countries (and thus human hosts) to get there.
It is these differences that allow "bugs people" to track back and say "that bug family came from this source, via that route". But generally that can't be done instantly, because it takes so long to collate the data from a wide enough range of hosts.

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Nobody knows if it's a game-changer as it's stated so much in media. Hydroxychloroquine is one of several other drugs that could help. And don't hold your breath. It will take several months before it will be introduced to the public...
https://www.livescience.com/hydroxychloroquine-prevent-covid-19-study.html

The anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine has made headlines in recent weeks for its potential to help with the new coronavirus disease, COVID-19, though its benefits remain unproven. Now, a new study will test whether the drug can prevent COVID-19 transmission.
For the study, researchers in New York and Washington state plan to enroll 2,000 participants who are close contacts of people with confirmed or pending COVID-19 diagnoses.
Participants will be randomly assigned to take either hydroxychloroquine or a placebo for two weeks, and they will be tested daily for COVID-19, according to a statement from the University of Washington (UW), which will collaborate on the study with New York University (NYU).
The trial is expected to last eight weeks, and researchers hope to have the results by summer.

But for now we don't have so many other options then trying all what we can do to find a solution.

But generally that can't be done instantly, because it takes so long to collate the data from a wide enough range of hosts.

Which totally refutes the claim of different STRAINS infecting Iran and Italy. It's the SAME RNA Corona type virus STRAIN with POSSIBLE subtle mutations but there simply has not been enough time to analyze the virus sufficiently

strain strān

n.
A group of bacteria or viruses that are genetically distinct from other groups of the same species.

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Which totally refutes

Sorry, RNA sequencing doesn't happen in 30 minutes like on TV.

Ring-a-round the rosie,
A pocket full of posies,
A-tishoo! A-tishoo!
We all fall down.

Ring-a-round the rosie,
A pocket full of posies,
Corona! Corona!
We all fall down.