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Message 1966051 - Posted: 18 Nov 2018, 18:33:45 UTC - in response to Message 1966030.  

In the stdoutdae.txt file in the boinc folder I found this.

17-Nov-2018 21:02:34 [---] Resuming computation
17-Nov-2018 21:03:38 [---] Exiting
17-Nov-2018 21:03:39 [---] Received signal 15

Now to see if I can figure out what signal 15 is and if it gives me a clue or if it is a dead end. It is good to know that seti has a longer log file than what it shows you in the gui interface.

edit: looks like this doesn't give me enough info, but maybe I can tweak the logging settings.

If you look in your cc_config.xml file, you should find this section. Each tag controls the size of the respective log file. 0 means unlimited.

<max_event_log_lines>2000</max_event_log_lines>

<max_stderr_file_size>0</max_stderr_file_size>
<max_stdout_file_size>0</max_stdout_file_size>
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Message 1966110 - Posted: 19 Nov 2018, 4:16:27 UTC - in response to Message 1965985.  

I've had boinc crash on me a couple of times recently. When I check on it, it just isn't running. I restart it and all is good for some random amount of time. When I look at the log file, it is since the restart of the process. Is there a place to find out why it crashed??

I wasn't running the latest boinc, so I updated and hope it won't crash again.

edit: I'm on a mac.

Look in your Mac's log files. Console application in utilities.
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Message 1966641 - Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 20:22:47 UTC

QNAP Launches Mustang-200 Compute Accelerator for Network Attached Storage.
QNAP has released a special-purpose accelerator based on two Intel CPUs that is designed to significantly boost the processing capabilities of NAS boxes and even PCs. QNAP’s Mustang-200 can speed up access to data located on a NAS box, but can also be used to increase image processing capabilities of NASes used for surveillance, run AI and ML apps, or speed up virtual machines.
The QNAP Mustang-200 accelerators are PCIe 2.0 x4 cards based on two Intel Kaby Lake CPUs (Core i7-7567U, Core i5-7267U or Celeron 3865U) outfitted with their own 4 - 16 GB of DDR4 memory as well as 512 GB Intel 600P SSDs (Core i5/i7 only). Each node has its own 10 GbE NIC and runs its own copy of QNAP’s mQTS operating system, thus offering a familiar functionality to those who use NAS products from QNAP.

It is noteworthy that the Mustang-200 accelerators can be installed not only into NAS boxes, but also into regular PCs and be used for a variety of applications.

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Message 1966687 - Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 0:54:33 UTC - in response to Message 1966641.  

QNAP Launches Mustang-200 Compute Accelerator for Network Attached Storage.
QNAP has released a special-purpose accelerator based on two Intel CPUs that is designed to significantly boost the processing capabilities of NAS boxes and even PCs. QNAP’s Mustang-200 can speed up access to data located on a NAS box, but can also be used to increase image processing capabilities of NASes used for surveillance, run AI and ML apps, or speed up virtual machines.
The QNAP Mustang-200 accelerators are PCIe 2.0 x4 cards based on two Intel Kaby Lake CPUs (Core i7-7567U, Core i5-7267U or Celeron 3865U) outfitted with their own 4 - 16 GB of DDR4 memory as well as 512 GB Intel 600P SSDs (Core i5/i7 only). Each node has its own 10 GbE NIC and runs its own copy of QNAP’s mQTS operating system, thus offering a familiar functionality to those who use NAS products from QNAP.

It is noteworthy that the Mustang-200 accelerators can be installed not only into NAS boxes, but also into regular PCs and be used for a variety of applications.


I wonder if it can speed up Seti processing? ;)
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Message 1966727 - Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 7:01:14 UTC

Given that some people have tried (with varying degrees of success) to run SETI on their NAS boxes it is quite possible. Who's going to buy one (when they become available) and find out?
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Message 1966928 - Posted: 25 Nov 2018, 1:25:03 UTC - in response to Message 1964948.  
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Greetings,
ap_09no18ab_B0_P0_00383_20181112_11668.wu_1

The above WU is estimated to take "1d 4:43:xx" time to complete. Really? Has anyone else come across anything like this while not running a 486 PC? ;)
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Forgot to mention: AstroPulse v7 7.00
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. . Ignore as is redundant info, I should have checked the message date :(

. . All that means is that CreditNew and the schedulers do not have an established average run time for that type of task on that resource on that host, so you get a wildly exagerated worst case estimate based most likely on the CPU benchmarks that manager runs. By the time that machine has completed a couple of dozen of those tasks the estimate will become fairly realistic.

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Message 1966955 - Posted: 25 Nov 2018, 4:52:25 UTC - in response to Message 1966727.  

Given that some people have tried (with varying degrees of success) to run SETI on their NAS boxes it is quite possible. Who's going to buy one (when they become available) and find out?


As interesting as this is, my finances are already over-committed with other Bonic projects so someone else gets to play.

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Message 1966981 - Posted: 25 Nov 2018, 11:37:25 UTC - in response to Message 1966928.  

Greetings,
ap_09no18ab_B0_P0_00383_20181112_11668.wu_1

The above WU is estimated to take "1d 4:43:xx" time to complete. Really? Has anyone else come across anything like this while not running a 486 PC? ;)
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Forgot to mention: AstroPulse v7 7.00
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. . Ignore as is redundant info, I should have checked the message date :(

. . All that means is that CreditNew and the schedulers do not have an established average run time for that type of task on that resource on that host, so you get a wildly exagerated worst case estimate based most likely on the CPU benchmarks that manager runs. By the time that machine has completed a couple of dozen of those tasks the estimate will become fairly realistic.

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. .

Hi Stephen,

Yeah, someone (maybe Richard H.?) told me about how the PC has to do a bunch before the estimate settles in. I had one the other day that was still over 1 day and it was done in a few hours or so 'cause the next time I looked, it was gone, the same day. :) According to my Applications Details page, I have done 2 of them, last time I looked anyway. ;)

Thanks Stephen and have a great day! :)

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Message 1967975 - Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 7:31:36 UTC

I'm missing the Aricebo files. just blcs blcs blcs these days.

So I found the Aricebo calendar https://www.naic.edu/vscience/schedule/scedfra2.htm but I don't know what I'm looking for. Is there a way to tell when they gather seti data ??
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Message 1967976 - Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 7:49:24 UTC - in response to Message 1967975.  

Doesn't look like anything on the page works. Can't help you there other than it says future observations are scheduled. But the listed past schedule doesn't coincide with the actual dates of data we've seen so far.
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Message 1967981 - Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 8:51:22 UTC - in response to Message 1967975.  
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I'm missing the Aricebo files. just blcs blcs blcs these days.

So I found the Aricebo calendar https://www.naic.edu/vscience/schedule/scedfra2.htm but I don't know what I'm looking for. Is there a way to tell when they gather seti data ??
The page works if you allow your browser to run scripts from unauthenticated sources.

SETI@Home's data recorder is connected to the ALFA antenna, so data will be recorded whenever an observing scientist requests that ALFA is used. It looks like the next such run will be tomorrow (01 December 2018), when the P2030 project has a slot between about 14:00 and 16:30. If you click on that entry, the schedule will bring up a page of information about who is looking for what, how. Even when the antenna isn't named in the research project title, you can hover over the slot and sometimes pick up a clue, like the A2754 project which has a slot between 00:00 and 03:30 tomorrow.
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Message 1968028 - Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 15:03:34 UTC

Thanks Richard for the info. Nice to know we have some Aricebo data coming soon.

Keith - I too have my browser locked down to the point that I had to play with my settings to get anything useful from the page.
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Message 1968032 - Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 16:03:01 UTC - in response to Message 1968028.  
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Thanks Richard for the info. Nice to know we have some Aricebo data coming soon.

Keith - I too have my browser locked down to the point that I had to play with my settings to get anything useful from the page.

I don't get the little icon in the browser header alerting me that the page is wanting to run unauthorized scripts. Where did you find the settings to change that.

[Edit]For example when I look at the setitrac svn page link that Richard just posted for me I get a little shield icon in the browser title bar that when hovering over says "this page is trying to load scripts from unauthorized sources" which if you righ-click you can change that to enable the page to load scripts. The Arecibo web site does not produce the icon and I don't know how else to allow it to load its scripts.
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Message 1968033 - Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 16:24:48 UTC

It is going to depend on the browser and add ons you use. Firefox has a setting under privacy and security for 3rd party. I didn't mess with that one, so I don't get the popups that were mentioned. I did have to shutdown my "noscript" addon and open links in a new tab. So I will guess you need to go into the browser privacy/security settings and allow that site if it is important to you.
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Message 1968640 - Posted: 4 Dec 2018, 6:14:48 UTC

looks like they have brought BOINC replica database carolyn back. it looks like she is running but offline at the moment.
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Message 1968692 - Posted: 4 Dec 2018, 22:06:04 UTC

Greetings,

These weekly maintenance cycles do a number on RAC. For a few days I was hovering above 15K RAC and now I am WAY below. :(

I guess it could be worse, we could have to endure daily maintenance cycles. lol :P

Have a great day! :)

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Message 1968710 - Posted: 4 Dec 2018, 23:17:00 UTC - in response to Message 1968692.  

Greetings,

These weekly maintenance cycles do a number on RAC. For a few days I was hovering above 15K RAC and now I am WAY below. :(

I guess it could be worse, we could have to endure daily maintenance cycles. lol :P

Have a great day! :)

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If they did daily maintenance cycles I am hopeful that each would be a bunch shorter.

I think that unless you want to spend a lot of manual time downloading more tasks than are usually available (described elsewhere) you are basically going to need to set your preferences for "2 days" of work and your "additional work" to 0.1 and hope for the best.

You can also set up a "reserve" project with a resource of "0" and it will only be downloaded when you run out of Seti tasks. I have had varying success in getting the reserve tasks to get out of the way of Seti so some Seti can be downloaded after the maintenance outage.

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Message 1968737 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 1:38:18 UTC - in response to Message 1968710.  

Greetings,

These weekly maintenance cycles do a number on RAC. For a few days I was hovering above 15K RAC and now I am WAY below. :(

I guess it could be worse, we could have to endure daily maintenance cycles. lol :P

Have a great day! :)

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If they did daily maintenance cycles I am hopeful that each would be a bunch shorter.

I think that unless you want to spend a lot of manual time downloading more tasks than are usually available (described elsewhere) you are basically going to need to set your preferences for "2 days" of work and your "additional work" to 0.1 and hope for the best.

You can also set up a "reserve" project with a resource of "0" and it will only be downloaded when you run out of Seti tasks. I have had varying success in getting the reserve tasks to get out of the way of Seti so some Seti can be downloaded after the maintenance outage.

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BOINC will do exactly what you ask it to do, so if you ask it for a two day cache and your main is out, it will make a two day cache of your backup. As those deadlines will be different, it will likely go into EDF mode and crunch the backup until done! Unfortunately we can't set different caches for different projects.

Moral is, if you have a backup project(s) don't get greedy with the cache or it will fill with the backup!
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Message 1968771 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 7:11:01 UTC

Japan's last pager service is closing down next year, 50 years after the devices were introduced to the country.
Pagers were developed in the 50s and 60s but became widely popular in the 1980s and 1990s. The radio devices could receive and, in the case of two-way pagers, send messages via radio waves. In 1996, 10 million units were being used in Japan as "poke-beru" or "pocket bell,” as they’re known over there, reached peak popularity.
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Message 1968791 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 11:44:32 UTC - in response to Message 1968710.  

Greetings,

These weekly maintenance cycles do a number on RAC. For a few days I was hovering above 15K RAC and now I am WAY below. :(

I guess it could be worse, we could have to endure daily maintenance cycles. lol :P

Have a great day! :)

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If they did daily maintenance cycles I am hopeful that each would be a bunch shorter.

I think that unless you want to spend a lot of manual time downloading more tasks than are usually available (described elsewhere) you are basically going to need to set your preferences for "2 days" of work and your "additional work" to 0.1 and hope for the best.

You can also set up a "reserve" project with a resource of "0" and it will only be downloaded when you run out of Seti tasks. I have had varying success in getting the reserve tasks to get out of the way of Seti so some Seti can be downloaded after the maintenance outage.

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Hi Tom,

Oh, I'm not all that worried about it. I know and knew it would happen. Besides, I went back above 15K overnight. :)

I am set to "2 days" but the other is 0.5. I set those way, way, way back when when I read about it here on the fora. I'll set the other to 0.1 and continue to not worry. :)

Thanks Tom and have a great day! :)

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