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Message 1957919 - Posted: 30 Sep 2018, 15:32:56 UTC - in response to Message 1957903.  
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i find http://www.teamocuk.co.uk/spart.php?p=SAH&u=7810325 is easier to know who you overtake and by who y'll be overtaked ... in comparison tab ...

Just curiosity. Why some hosts did not apears on this list?.


i don't know why, inactives users are not shown, but some active too, and for the host , same thing ... some are and other not .
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Message 1957924 - Posted: 30 Sep 2018, 16:13:11 UTC - in response to Message 1957919.  
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i find http://www.teamocuk.co.uk/spart.php?p=SAH&u=7810325 is easier to know who you overtake and by who y'll be overtaked ... in comparison tab ...

Just curiosity. Why some hosts did not apears on this list?.


i don't know why, inactives users are not shown, but some active too, and for the host , same thing ... some are and other not .

Thanks. Ask because my host for example did not appears.
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Message 1957927 - Posted: 30 Sep 2018, 16:54:57 UTC - in response to Message 1957914.  

Thanks for the detailed explanation Keith, I'll give it a shot when I have a chance. My goal is to end up with a screen like you had posted above.
I do it with three mouse clicks.

1) browser shortcut opens BOINCstats on projects tab, as Keith says.
2) on the SETI@Home line, it shows my current world position as being 199. Click on that number.
3) That shows SETI users, on the 101-200 page. My name is highlighted in green.
4) Click on the bicoloured diamond (green up, red down) towards the right hand side of the highlighted line.

And there's the stat.
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Message 1958040 - Posted: 1 Oct 2018, 14:23:40 UTC

Here's some info on how changes to Tariffs are affecting pricing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxz5Tc-YRs
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Message 1958048 - Posted: 1 Oct 2018, 15:13:52 UTC - in response to Message 1957843.  

Now there is a full list of 50, and I see that a lot of their RACs are in the millions.. WTH?
Take Collatz out of that and exclude ASIC out and you would probably see some sanity.

Yep- you need to make sure you are comparing just Seti stats.
Other projects such as Collatz that pay ridiculous amounts of Credit, and comparing against projects that can make use of ASICs, just aren't valid comparisons.


which projects can use ASICs? and what ASICs exactly?

you're not talking about SHA256 bitcoin ASICs are you?
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Message 1958050 - Posted: 1 Oct 2018, 15:24:16 UTC - in response to Message 1958048.  

you're not talking about SHA256 bitcoin ASICs are you?
Yes, there was one once. But I think it gave up.
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Message 1958090 - Posted: 1 Oct 2018, 22:23:10 UTC - in response to Message 1957875.  

Is it possible to move a machine ID/history over between Windowz and Linux? I vaguely remember reading something about that, wasn't blindingly simple, but thought I'd heard it could be done.


Sure. I was told you just made a copy of the "clientstate" file but I was worried so I copied all the files that included Seti in the name in the BOINC folder.

Pasted them before the first time I started BOINC up. And boom. The history and the id transferred. At the time, I didn't have any RAC so I can't guarantee that would convert but someone should be able to point to experience one way or the other.

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Message 1958091 - Posted: 1 Oct 2018, 22:43:41 UTC - in response to Message 1958048.  
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which projects can use ASICs? and what ASICs exactly?



I hope this helps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application-specific_integrated_circuit

My foggy layman's appreciation renders it as "hardware programmed" integrated circuits. Basically you can't load software into it and change any of its functionality. It might have parameters you can tweak but not software.

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Message 1958187 - Posted: 2 Oct 2018, 21:54:18 UTC - in response to Message 1958090.  

Is it possible to move a machine ID/history over between Windowz and Linux? I vaguely remember reading something about that, wasn't blindingly simple, but thought I'd heard it could be done.


Sure. I was told you just made a copy of the "clientstate" file but I was worried so I copied all the files that included Seti in the name in the BOINC folder.

Pasted them before the first time I started BOINC up. And boom. The history and the id transferred. At the time, I didn't have any RAC so I can't guarantee that would convert but someone should be able to point to experience one way or the other.

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Thanks Tom, I'll hang tight to hopefully hear more from the SETI masters.

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Message 1958188 - Posted: 2 Oct 2018, 22:12:01 UTC - in response to Message 1958187.  
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Is it possible to move a machine ID/history over between Windowz and Linux? I vaguely remember reading something about that, wasn't blindingly simple, but thought I'd heard it could be done.


Sure. I was told you just made a copy of the "clientstate" file but I was worried so I copied all the files that included Seti in the name in the BOINC folder.

Pasted them before the first time I started BOINC up. And boom. The history and the id transferred. At the time, I didn't have any RAC so I can't guarantee that would convert but someone should be able to point to experience one way or the other.

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Thanks Tom, I'll hang tight to hopefully hear more from the SETI masters.
I've done that several times, without mishap or data loss.

The critical thing is to understand that you are moving, not copying, the machine state: the old machine MUST NOT be started and allowed to contact project servers without wiping the old state. I've mostly used it to recover a machine ID from the hard disk recovered from a failed host.

The easiest way is to copy the entire BOINC data folder (including all subdirectories) from the old machine to the new machine. Then, install a fresh copy of BOINC on the new machine: use the 'advanced' page to set the data directory location to to place you've just used to receive the copied files. And away you go.

Edit - the Windoze --> Linux wrinkle does complicate matters. You would need to complete and report all tasks before making the move, and you would need to replace any optimised applications (cough, Lunatics) or other third party apps with Linux versions - or simply allow it to run stock to start with. My experience has been Windows --> Windows, which allows work in progress to be moved too.
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Message 1958210 - Posted: 3 Oct 2018, 2:04:12 UTC

A direct copy of the history files (XML) between Windows and Linux is NOT enough, It will still generate a new host ID when moving since the dectected OS is different.

Keith has done this many times with success to wait for him to pipe in for confirmation ...

- Run off all Windows tasks, or you will create ghost tasks
- Don't start Windows again :D
- Do the Linux 'drop in' install, but DON'T start it
- Copy all the XML files from the BOINC folder from Windows to Linux (contains detailed stats etc)
- Look at your Details for the computer on SETI
- Note the "Number of times client has contacted server 21360" number
- In the client_state.xml search for <project> and the setiathome section
- You will see " <rpc_seqno>21360</rpc_seqno> "
- Add 1 to that number, i.e. <rpc_seqno>21361</rpc_seqno>

I 'THINK' that is all there is too it.
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Message 1958228 - Posted: 3 Oct 2018, 7:54:07 UTC - in response to Message 1958210.  

Yep, that is basically it. Either the copying of all the xml files from the old Windows system or just start fresh. You can edit the client_state file to put back your original host id number but the most important part is the increment by one of the rpc_seqno from the host Details stat from the website. That way you don't lose the history/creation date and credit of the original host.
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Message 1958303 - Posted: 3 Oct 2018, 23:27:35 UTC - in response to Message 1958228.  

Got it guys, thanks. Will follow the instructions to a T, hopefully the changeovers will go off without a hitch.

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Message 1958305 - Posted: 4 Oct 2018, 0:09:49 UTC - in response to Message 1958303.  

A thought ... You might want to disable the BOINC auto start in Windows, just in case you ever want boot that OS again.
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Message 1959226 - Posted: 8 Oct 2018, 7:54:03 UTC

WOW, I know people have said DDR4 have gone up, but WOW!

When I ordered my Ryzen and Trident-Z (F4-3200C14D-16GTZ) Late Nov last year, it was really pricy RAM at $270 for 16Gb.
Now it is a whopping $592.
A 120% increase in 10 months.

I think I will keep my machines with DRR3 RRAM running ...
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Message 1959230 - Posted: 8 Oct 2018, 8:11:44 UTC

This price hike is probably only on this particular kit model because of availability..
and are you sure you are not looking at 2x16gb kit?

My G.Skill FlareX 3200 went from 244cad (15 month ago) to 286cad now
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Message 1959231 - Posted: 8 Oct 2018, 8:16:14 UTC - in response to Message 1959226.  

WOW, I know people have said DDR4 have gone up, but WOW!

When I ordered my Ryzen and Trident-Z (F4-3200C14D-16GTZ) Late Nov last year, it was really pricy RAM at $270 for 16Gb.
Now it is a whopping $592.
A 120% increase in 10 months.

Forecasts are for RAM pricing to drop going in to next year- new production facilities are coming online and movement between types of production- eg GDDR6 ramping up, reducing demand for GDDR5 so VRAM prices dropping (along with the drop in Crypto demand). Also DDR3 RAM being phased out & production moving over to DDR4 along with higher density DDR4 chips being produced.
So over all, with a bit of luck, memory should be affordable again towards the end of the 1st quarter of next year.
*fingers crossed*
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Message 1959235 - Posted: 8 Oct 2018, 8:48:13 UTC - in response to Message 1959230.  

Nope that is for 16GB G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB)
I'm not sure if that link will work outside of Canada.
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Message 1959236 - Posted: 8 Oct 2018, 8:56:33 UTC - in response to Message 1959235.  
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Nope that is for 16GB G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB)
I'm not sure if that link will work outside of Canada.


There is a small detail tho..

In stock. Ships from Italy. Most customers receive within 4-18 days.
Sold and Shipped by Twinix

On newegg you often have this, if newegg does not have it in stock, a third party seller will sell it a stupid high price.
Same on Amazon really

3200 C14 memory is often harder to find, compared to C16 kits..

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232410&cm_re=3200_C14-_-20-232-410-_-Product

This is a more normal price, the specific kit you linked might be discontinued too and hard to find now.. the one i linked is possibly a new replacement of that model
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Message 1959239 - Posted: 8 Oct 2018, 9:10:02 UTC - in response to Message 1959236.  

They are $569 on Amazon.ca, not much of a bargin, LOL.
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