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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22220 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
One of my crunchers is fitted with a pair of GTX1070ti - https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6452693 A lower spec CPU than you are thinking about, running Windows and doing about 43k/day, say about 20k per GPU. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Ghia Send message Joined: 7 Feb 17 Posts: 238 Credit: 28,911,438 RAC: 50 |
I Envy you Ghia, with my laptop unless I stop Seti GPU my RAC goes in free fall, ATM I have set it to receive only AP work as I also have a laptop (mostly for emergency situations), but never even considered crunching with it. Much too slow. As discussed, this really isn't a good time to build new rigs, with exorbitant prices on GPUs and RAM. But I know the temptation well...I build new rigs in my head every day ;) You'll get there...the main thing is participating ! Humans may rule the world...but bacteria run it... |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13746 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Going for a 1080 or 1080Ti means basically an all new build. Not a lot more, but a good boost, and use considerably less power to do it (only 150W max, your present card is rated at 250W). The GTX 1070 is the better option for performance v price. The output of the GTX 1070Ti isn't much more than the basic card, and the GTX 1070 still compares favorably against the GTX 1080. However the GTX 1080Ti is in a league of it's own. If your power supply is up to it, and you've got he the space in the case & the spare slot on the motherboard you could just run it with your existing card & get a huge boost in output. And you could run a GTX 1080Ti with no problems (if your PSU has the spare connectors)- it has the same power rating as your present card, 250W. Or wait for the 1100 series to be released. If Petrie's Titan V performance is anything to go by, the next generation of cards will have a significant performance boost for around the same power envelope. Shaggie's graphs make for an interesting comparison. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13746 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
An I9 X CPU with 10 cores would suit me and produce more. The big problem with them is their price. Clock for clock, they outperform AMD. However, for actual output for the price you pay, a Threadripper CPU kills the i9 CPUs. Half the price for the around same output. Unless you go for the extreme top of the range i9s, but their prices are even sillier. Grant Darwin NT |
Ghia Send message Joined: 7 Feb 17 Posts: 238 Credit: 28,911,438 RAC: 50 |
The big problem with them is their price. I fully aware of that, but am not keen on going with AMD. The one time I had an AMD-based rig, I had little nags going on all the time. If it wasn't the card itself, it was the drivers/software. I know times are different now, but the TR has had its problems also. So will stick with Intel and NVIDIA, methinks. I know how to deal with those, like overclocking, drivers and so on. But I certainly agree that Intel prices are ridiculous... Humans may rule the world...but bacteria run it... |
Ghia Send message Joined: 7 Feb 17 Posts: 238 Credit: 28,911,438 RAC: 50 |
A 1070Ti would produce more Oooo...that was interesting, Grant ! Tnx a'million ! I see my old 780Ti (Classified, no less) actually does well for its age. And surprised by the fact that a 1070 is on par with the 1070 Ti :) My power supply is a Corsair AX860 (platinum-rated), so should be able to deal with a 1070 beside the 780Ti ? I have the slots and space...not sure about connectors, though. If I can feed it, a 1070 in tandem with 780Ti looks like a very tempting option ! Humans may rule the world...but bacteria run it... |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
. . is this a space thing? Otherwise I cannot see a problem ... Stephen ? |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22220 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Might be if the current case is a bit short where the GPUs sit as the GTX1080 family tend to be a bit longer than the GTX1070 family. Also some older motherboards have some of the SATA connectors "sticking up" (rather than "laying flat") directly in line with the slots. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Ghia Send message Joined: 7 Feb 17 Posts: 238 Credit: 28,911,438 RAC: 50 |
No...there is space enough in my TT Armor REVO Snow Ed. Not sure about power connectors, though...uses 1x 8-pin, I believe ? My 780 Ti uses 2x. Can't remember if I have one free...haven't done much in the case since I built the system, haha... Humans may rule the world...but bacteria run it... |
Ghia Send message Joined: 7 Feb 17 Posts: 238 Credit: 28,911,438 RAC: 50 |
Might be if the current case is a bit short where the GPUs sit as the GTX1080 family tend to be a bit longer than the GTX1070 family. Also some older motherboards have some of the SATA connectors "sticking up" (rather than "laying flat") directly in line with the slots. Both the 1070 and the 1080 are shorter than my current card. The 780Ti is 11"...and I even have 2" extra to play with. Some of the 1080Ti's are nearly 12"...not a problem. Humans may rule the world...but bacteria run it... |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
Your CPU is fine, my top 2 computers are old LGA2011 boards with good GPUs. My Quad core 3820 is at 142,000 RAC with 2x1070 and 2x1060s in it. So an ATX board, case, PSU (750 is fine), and a GPU and you will gain a lot. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13746 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
My power supply is a Corsair AX860 (platinum-rated), so should be able to deal with a 1070 beside the 780Ti ? Easily. I've got 2* i7 systems, one with 2*GTX 1070s, the other with 3* GTX 750Tis, a 30" monitor and the other around 50" or so, and my router. According to my UPS, the total load for everything is is less than 750W, so your AX860 would have no problems even with a pair of Titan Xps in there. As long as you've got the room, PCIe slots and PCIe power plugs (or some Molex to PCIe adaptors), you'll be able to run whatever you're able to get (at a almost reasonable price. GPU Prices are improving, but they're still not great). With luck, later this year NVidia should release their next generation of GPUs, that should knock the price of current hardware down even further. Grant Darwin NT |
Ghia Send message Joined: 7 Feb 17 Posts: 238 Credit: 28,911,438 RAC: 50 |
Took a peek at my PSU....and yes, I do have a 6+2 pin free, and easily accessible too. Looks like this is a no-brainer.. ;) Question is which one to choose, whether to go for highest possible boost clock (something like the Asus ROG Strix) or a more moderately priced card. Cheapest would be a EVGA 1070 SC Gaming ACX 3.0 (1594-1784MHz) at ~$550 over here. The Asus ROG Strix Gaming (1657-1860MHz) would set me back ~$686 Must dig out some reviews. Could wait and see if prices fall....that game is hard to win at. Humans may rule the world...but bacteria run it... |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
As this does not have a lot to do with server problems, perhaps start a new thread to discuss this. Thank you. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Well as outages go that was a quickey |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Yes and it started back at its old customary time. Too bad there is no work available. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
Took a peek at my PSU....and yes, I do have a 6+2 pin free, and easily accessible too. Looks like this is a no-brainer.. ;) . . My experience is that the higher end versions are more for gaming performance and can probably make a difference if you are a gamer. But for SETI the basic versions perform just about as well as their more expensive stablemates and give more bang for your buck! With prices the way they are that can be a good saving. Stephen :) |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
As this does not have a lot to do with server problems, perhaps start a new thread to discuss this. . . True, sorry bout that. Stephen :( |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
Well as outages go that was a quickey . . 5 hours seems to be the new norm for outages. It makes a welcome change. Stephen :) |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
Take a look at the length of those cards. Strix tend to be very large cards and stick way out beyond the board. So much so, that it can almost prevent you from putting it in a case if there are intake fans. Best to measure your case and make sure it will fit. Z |
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