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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Thank you for the warning. So I need an Android 6 Tablet? Like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/TABLET-10-POLLICI-DECA-CORE-Android-4G-LTE-128GB-ROM-6GB-RAM-SIM-GPS-WIFI-SIM/362586577518?hash=item546bd81a6e%3Ag%3AuX4AAOSw7KhcjKMV&LH_BIN=1 ? Except it is Italian language :) Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Andreyson Jambersi Send message Joined: 27 Aug 14 Posts: 2 Credit: 726,200 RAC: 0 |
Tried to run SETI@Home at BOINC running onn my Redmi Note 7 with Android 9 (MIUI Global 10.2). I've got only computation error for all tasks. Is it impossible to run it at my smartphone? PS: Tasks from Einstein@Home and Rosetta@Home are working well. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22241 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Until someone builds and tests the SETI applications for Android 9 (or even 7 & 8) I'm sad to say the answer is "no" :-( Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Andreyson Jambersi Send message Joined: 27 Aug 14 Posts: 2 Credit: 726,200 RAC: 0 |
Well, thank you anyway. I'll keep tracking any advances in this matter. |
mjbdiver Send message Joined: 27 Dec 99 Posts: 2 Credit: 1,119,451 RAC: 2 |
What, no section for Android? I just got a Samsung Galaxy J2 phone to replace my On5. Since installing the BOINC app, it's no longer able to crunch any work units for SETI@Home. I get nothing but "computation error" messages. My On5 was able to crunch the work units perfectly. I think maybe the J2 has a different chipset other than what SETI@Home's used to. Hopefully the BOINC code will be made more compatible to work with the J2. In the meantime, is there any workaround? |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22241 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Depending on your telco you may have a version of Android that is not supported (currently) by SETI. For example, although Samsung say that my J2 should have Android version 5.1.1 it actually has version 8.0.0. I'm not sure how one would get out of this particular corner, but I can see for some it may be a very disappointing corner to be in. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Paul Hill Send message Joined: 25 Jul 12 Posts: 2 Credit: 29,457 RAC: 0 |
Hi, I've just noticed that a lot of tasks on my Android tablet, and some on my phone have been failing. No real point to this post other than to raise awareness of the issue and to ask if there will be an update to the jobs in order to fix this or whether the failing tasks will stop being pushed. |
Pierre A Renaud Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 998 Credit: 9,101,544 RAC: 65 |
The problem has also been summarized by Jord here, and the eventual announcement of any fix/update (dont hold your breath) will appear first on github then in the S@h news section. Devices who can presently crunch S@h data can be found there (but the compatibility devil lies in the details and the OS version, which can change at any moment during an update). In the meantime my 8 cores smartphone presently crunches WCG and Einstein data, so this small S@h's loss is another project's gain. Hi, I've just noticed that a lot of tasks on my Android tablet, and some on my phone have been failing. No real point to this post other than to raise awareness of the issue and to ask if there will be an update to the jobs in order to fix this or whether the failing tasks will stop being pushed. Apr 3, 1999 - May 3, 2020 |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7045 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
Checking in, I adjusted a couple of settings for the network, and it started downloading. But next, apparently most of it ended up in computation errors, and I next clicked on the trash bin after opening up the box for the task. Except for the play/pause button for suspend versus continue in the usual way, the tasks may not seem to upload or report, despite running out in error. One task is apparently running, with the unit now turned on and the display visible, after the adjustment in the Settings, but for now only 3,4 % complete, so this is going to take some time. |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
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bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7045 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
Mr. Kevvy. At least I was told to continue running a couple of tasks, in order for posting privileges to continue. While Linux/Unix is not the same as Windows, particularly the interface, it should be more the internal design of the processor itself which should be deciding the way in which tasks are being run. So while having this contents in the Linux/Unix thread under Q & A, and next not bothers me, I really have not kept a tab with these things, including the way applications are being developed and maintained. While this particular phone is quite new on the market, the margin of errors, or error rate, is completely unknown to me, and because this is my first attempt at this, it is almost impossible to compare with other possible users. Could add that I am getting a message that the battery could be blamed for a couple of crashes, but here connecting to the mains for this, while recalling that I visited the battery in the Settings earlier on, and will have to check in again. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22241 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
...and Android is not the same as Linux/Unix :-( The user interfaces on most mobile phones are designed for the tiny screen typical of phones, not the much larger screens typical even of laptops. Thus the phone user interface is more often than not laid out in a totally different pattern to that of a "computer" screen. The thing is Android has undergone such a rapid development and transformation that it is very difficult for a volunteer developed program to keep up with the changes each generation has brought along, while allowing people to continue to use their old phones and tablets that they have "retired" from use as phones. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Professor Chaswick Send message Joined: 15 Oct 14 Posts: 3 Credit: 11,997,969 RAC: 14 |
Is anyone else running or attempting to run SETI@HOME on their android phone. I tried twice, once about 6 months ago and again yesterday with Boinc version 7.4.53. Each time a work unit downloaded fine but when it was trying to run it stops at 0% returning the, IMHO, overly simple error message, "computation error" with no time elapsed. I searched these forums for the term, "android" and found nothing relating to any problems. Any thoughts or experiences with the droid? Cheers Charles |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
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Professor Chaswick Send message Joined: 15 Oct 14 Posts: 3 Credit: 11,997,969 RAC: 14 |
Thanks, I will try that. Interesting that I didn't find this thread when I searched the first time. Evidently, the search function is case sensitive. Cheers Charles |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
You have an ARMv7 Processor rev 4 processor, which is 32bit. You're getting tasks sent for ARMv6 and ARMv7 type processors, all err with "process got signal 6". This won't fix itself with a different science application, you can stop trying. Process aborted with signal 6 means that the process itself has found that some essential prerequisite for correct function is not available and voluntarily killing itself, rather than the process being killed by the kernel because it ran over resource limits or looked at memory addresses funny or something. You're probably missing a driver or library that the science apps were built with or expect to be there. While it's possible to figure this out on Linux, it's neigh on impossible to do so on Android without rooting the phone, and even then it's not so easy. |
Alessio Susi Send message Joined: 7 Mar 15 Posts: 5 Credit: 316,396 RAC: 1 |
I just upgraded one of my Android devices to Android 10 and it doesn't receive other WUs. https://einsteinathome.org/it-it/host/12789879 Can you fix this problem? ASUS X570 E-Gaming AMD Ryzen 9 3950X, 16 core / 32 thread 4.4 GHz AMD Radeon Sapphire RX 480 4GB Nitro+ Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X Trio 4x16 GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3466 MHz |
Alessio Susi Send message Joined: 7 Mar 15 Posts: 5 Credit: 316,396 RAC: 1 |
I just upgraded one of my Android devices to Android 10 and it doesn't receive other WUs. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8856048 ASUS X570 E-Gaming AMD Ryzen 9 3950X, 16 core / 32 thread 4.4 GHz AMD Radeon Sapphire RX 480 4GB Nitro+ Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X Trio 4x16 GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3466 MHz |
Pierre A Renaud Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 998 Credit: 9,101,544 RAC: 65 |
Why the newer Android versions are incompatible with SETI@home Until the code is updated, your smartphone can contribute in other worthwhile projects (look for projects with the Android logo). I just upgraded one of my Android devices to Android 10 and it doesn't receive other WUs. Apr 3, 1999 - May 3, 2020 |
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