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Message 1914470 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 20:40:23 UTC

I'm just wait the day when "sanity descends" on the world of crypto currencies and they start to return below 1c/1$ There will be much grinding of teeth and a number of folks will find that the piles of silicon in their garages are worth less than piles of sand....
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Message 1914481 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 21:45:34 UTC - in response to Message 1914470.  

I'm just wait the day when "sanity descends" on the world of crypto currencies and they start to return below 1c/1$ There will be much grinding of teeth and a number of folks will find that the piles of silicon in their garages are worth less than piles of sand....

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Message 1914493 - Posted: 21 Jan 2018, 23:23:15 UTC - in response to Message 1914470.  

I'm just wait the day when "sanity descends" on the world of crypto currencies and they start to return below 1c/1$ There will be much grinding of teeth and a number of folks will find that the piles of silicon in their garages are worth less than piles of sand....

I think it is going to take major upheaval to dampen the exuberance. We've seen countless times drops of 50% in valuation only for BTC to continue the upward climb and claw back everything that was lost. I think crypto is going to have to be outlawed my major governments or national banking organizations for the craze to end. Or some major cyber crime that steals all of the major exchanges assets to cause a drop in mining activity.
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Message 1914499 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 0:58:31 UTC - in response to Message 1913311.  

Speculating in the crypto currencies is not for the faint of heart, is it. From 20K/BTC before Christmas to today with BTC=13K is a 65% drop in valuation in less than a month. You basically have to become a day trader to participate.


. . Hi Keith, yep it is a big drop but it is more like 35%, still glad it isn't me :)

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Message 1914501 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 1:03:48 UTC - in response to Message 1913675.  

All gone, just checked on the GeForce 10 Series Family, all gone, top to bottom, other than the odd 1030 or 1050. Oh well.


. . 1050/1050ti do OK

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Message 1914502 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 1:09:25 UTC - in response to Message 1913773.  

For Info.

Mining Benchmark.

GPUs
- 509 Sol/s : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 11Gbps @Stock mit EWBF's Zcash CUDA miner 0.3.4b
- 481 Sol/s : AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition @Stock mit Claymore ZCash Miner V12.6 (von Yoshi 2k3)
- 453 Sol/s : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 @Stock mit EWBF's Zcash CUDA miner 0.3.4b
- 359 Sol/s : AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition @Stock mit sgminer 5.5.5-gm (von Yoshi 2k3)
- 325 Sol/s : AMD Radeon R9 290 @Stock mit Claymore's AMD GPU miner v12.5
- 305 Sol/s : AMD Radeon RX 480 (XFX GTR 8 GB umgeflasht zur RX 580) @Stock mit Claymore ZCash Miner V12.5 (von Gozu)
- 303 Sol/s : AMD Radeon RX 580 (XFX XXX 8 GB) @Stock mit Claymore ZCash Miner V12.5 (von Gozu)
- 275 Sol/s : AMD Radeon RX 470 @Stock mit Claymore's AMD GPU miner v12.5
- 270 Sol/s : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3G @Stock mit EWBF's Zcash CUDA miner 0.3.4b
- 239 Sol/s : AMD Radeon HD 7950 (Asus DirectCU II 3 GB) @Stock mit Claymore ZCash Miner V12.5 (von Gozu)
- 238 Sol/s : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 @Stock mit EWBF's Zcash CUDA miner 0.3.4b
- 225 Sol/s : AMD Radeon R9 380X @Stock mit Claymore's AMD GPU miner v12.5
- 094 Sol/s : AMD Radeon HD 7750 (Asus DirectCU II 1 GB) @Stock mit Claymore ZCash Miner V12.5 (von Gozu)
- 060 Sol/s : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 @Stock mit EWBF's Zcash CUDA miner 0.3.4b
- 024 Sol/s : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 @Stock mit EWBF's Zcash CUDA miner 0.3.4b
- 006 Sol/s : AMD Radeon R4 (AMD A6-6310) @Stock mit mit Claymore ZCash Miner V12.5 unter Windows 7 x64
- 004 Sol/s : AMD Radeon HD 8670D (AMD A10-6800K) @Stock mit sgminer 5.5.5-gm (von Gozu)

From Planet3Dnow website.


. . Hmmm, I don't see GTX1060-6GB or GTX1050ti on that list :(

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Message 1914505 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 1:17:49 UTC

I'm glad that I got all my 1060's back in Dec 2016/Jan 2017 when I did because the prices have been ridiculous to ludicrous ever since. :-)

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Message 1914508 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 1:27:20 UTC - in response to Message 1914184.  


Fun image: Seti would be jealous.


. . All very interesting, if only I could read Dutch :)

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Message 1914510 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 1:31:41 UTC - in response to Message 1914508.  


Fun image: Seti would be jealous.


. . All very interesting, if only I could read Dutch :)

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Chrome will translate it for you.
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Message 1914511 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 1:32:03 UTC - in response to Message 1914508.  

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Message 1914514 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 1:49:41 UTC - in response to Message 1914505.  
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I'm glad that I got all my 1060's back in Dec 2016/Jan 2017 when I did because the prices have been ridiculous to ludicrous ever since. :-)

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. . Yeah, I am glad I got my 1060s back then too, now I just have to bite the bullet and deal with this uncooperative Ryzen rig. Then the little beasties can come out to play ... Not that this is the best time for that with credit being soooo low :) But it's about the number of WUs for me (mostly).

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Message 1914520 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 2:12:49 UTC - in response to Message 1914499.  

Speculating in the crypto currencies is not for the faint of heart, is it. From 20K/BTC before Christmas to today with BTC=13K is a 65% drop in valuation in less than a month. You basically have to become a day trader to participate.


. . Hi Keith, yep it is a big drop but it is more like 35%, still glad it isn't me :)

Stephen

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It was over 50% drop for a while when it fell to 9K from 19.8K.
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Message 1914525 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 2:23:00 UTC - in response to Message 1914520.  

Hey Keith,

Wasn't it you telling me the DDR memory in the 1080Ti wasn't good for Mining???
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Message 1914531 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 2:53:26 UTC

For a bit of perspective...

Bitcoin isn't mined with GPUs, miners use specialized ASIC mining rigs.
Ethereum uses mostly GPUs for it's mining, and has not fallen in price the way Bitcoin has.
Many other crypt-coins use GPUs to mine efficiently.

The Ethereum Network Hashrate is close to 200,000 GH/sec.
That network hashrate has been doubling about every 6 months.
A 1080ti or Vega 64 has a hashrate of between 30 -40 MH/sec.
So somewhere around 5-7 million high-end GPUs are generating the Ethereum Network hashrate.
If the Ethereum Network Hashrate is to double over the next 6 months then another 5-7 million
high-end GPUs will have to join the network.
Good for the manufacturers.
Some mining specific GPU cards are being made, with no display outputs.
If cryptocurrencies collapse then an awful lot of cards will flood the market which will be very bad for AMD and nVidia.

Considering that petr33 gets a 230,000 RAC using 4 1080ti cards all of seti@home data could be crunched on less than 4000 GPUs.
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Message 1914532 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 2:59:39 UTC - in response to Message 1914525.  
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Hey Keith,

Wasn't it you telling me the DDR memory in the 1080Ti wasn't good for Mining???

No I was telling you that the miners prefer DDR5 memory over DDR5X which the 1080 and 1080Ti have. Or better said, miners prefer cards that use DDR5 memory because they are cheaper and use less power than cards that use DDR5X memory. The hashrate per watt is better on cards with DDR5 memory.
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Message 1914533 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 3:20:33 UTC - in response to Message 1914531.  


Considering that petr33 gets a 230,000 RAC using 4 1080ti cards all of seti@home data could be crunched on less than 4000 GPUs.


1 1080Ti and 3 1080s...which is still pretty pretty impressive, lol...
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Message 1914537 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 3:51:46 UTC
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What is impressive is the crunching power of the Linux CUDA90 builds (or 9.1 in the case of petr33 GPUś )

Just a simple example.... with Nvidia stuff only of course.

petr33 1080Ti (OC ???) crunch each blc in about 64 secs, his 1080 (OC ???) in 84 secs, mine 1070 (OC No) in 130 secs

Compared with Zalster 1080Ti running SoG 410 secs, considering he runs maybe 3WU at a time??? each WU will crunch in 136 secs.

So a 1070 running Cuda 90 crunches about the same of a 1080Ti and obviously the 1080/1080Ti running CUDA90 crunches even a lot faster.

Maybe what is the best investment for the SETI community is to hire someone who could transport the Linux CUDA90 code to the windows environment. Sure a high gain in crunching power without the spend of a single cent in new hardware or electric power.

My 2 cents.
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Message 1914539 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 4:21:49 UTC - in response to Message 1914537.  

Maybe what is the best investment for the SETI community is to hire someone who could transport the Linux CUDA90 code to the windows environment. Sure a high gain in crunching power without the spend of a single cent in new hardware or electric power.

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Message 1914609 - Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 17:56:17 UTC
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Even though my home made stand is working out fine for me, I have another board that I'd like to remote the video card on, so thought since mining has been booming again recently, I would take a look at what options I had for a reasonably priced, fairly simple stand. I guess before I started looking I should have thought about what happened in the CA gold rush, and how the people who made most of the money were the ones who supplied the miners, not the vast majority of the actual miners, who broke even, or worse.

Did a quick google, hit some links to fleabay and to Amazon, and was shocked to see what they are asking for a few cut pieces of extruded aluminum and some bolts. Mind boggling, They were all at near to Way over $100, which I guess goes along with the situation we're having in video cards right now. $25, 30, maybe, but $150-250? Umm, no. I'll keep looking to see if I can find any sanity out there, or else I'll just have to roll my own again. I'm sure v 2.0 will be much better, and won't have the special Dewalt enhancements on it this time either.. ;-)

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Message 1914678 - Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 3:42:27 UTC

somewhat on topic, i got three packages
today. one 1060 3g and two 760's.
got one more 760 coming in.
then i'll never spend another penny this year.
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