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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Trump, or anyone else of his type, is not the cause of the USA reverting to its historical pre WW2 beliefs. Which is...a zero sum game. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Actually, it's the USA that is changing. Trump, or anyone else of his type, is not the cause of the USA reverting to its historical pre WW2 beliefs. Which is... Clyde I'm thinking your wrong there . America has changed it's your political system that has not Trump did not win the popular vote he won because it's rigged . Change the system and then you might see the real America and one way to start would be the school system . To many little council s in small area's making decisions on the School curriculums witch is Brain washing . No wonder you have Trump and are now being screwed by the very people that promised to Make America great the Republican Party ergo Conservatives with closed minds and it will END as it always does by them ....... WAR only this time there will be no winners , pity the Republicans haven't learnt that yet |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19070 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
The US might not think they are corrupt, and the rest of the World is, but on the World Corruption Index, the US is below most of Europe, Canada, New Zealand and Australia. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
As with WW1, we entered and was victorious in WW2. The USA, as the only International Economic and Conventional Military Force, embarked in an attempt to: I agree, but I feel the underlying reason/feeling was/is a fear and empirical proof (Pearl Harbor, 9/11)that a BIG STICK is necessary to keep the 'bears' and 'dragons' from trying to eat us. A dream of every deranged despot since 1776. AND it worked for over half a century. what has now changed is the rise of suicidal regimes(DPRK), and philosophies(Radical Islamic Terrorism). These threats don't want to conquer, they wish to annihilate the US and the world, which in turn elevates the nature of the defense. Mad Dogs are not appeased and cannot be reasoned with. They must be put down, very visibly as an example to those toying with the same idea. DPRK is probably going to be the object lesson of Big Stick diplomacy. "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.".......Secretary of Defense General James Mattis, USMC Ret. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Trump’s national security strategy ignores the lessons of Europe’s bloody history. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/12/22/trumps-national-security-strategy-ignores-the-lessons-of-europes-bloody-history/?utm_term=.db0460746f0f The most notable feature of the new National Security Strategy unveiled by the Trump administration this week is the virtual absence of any search for international order. Instead, it argues that the order that was set up has worked against the interests of the United States and that the guiding principle now should be competition between sovereign states, not the cooperation between interdependent states. As we Europeans read history, we remember that ours is a continent where fierce competition among sovereign states has produced wars that have spread throughout the world. The road ahead requires cooperation among interdependent states to tackle challenges that are increasingly common. Proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, climate change, migration, epidemics, global criminal networks, cyber disruptions, terrorism — solely competition between nominally sovereign states would take us nowhere on all these issues. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
As we Europeans read history, we remember that ours is a continent where fierce competition among sovereign states has produced wars that have spread throughout the world. The road ahead requires cooperation among interdependent states to tackle challenges that are increasingly common. Proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, climate change, migration, epidemics, global criminal networks, cyber disruptions, terrorism — solely competition between nominally sovereign states would take us nowhere on all these issues.And so because it's the European viewpoint, it must be the true and only one. The EU has certainly gone a long way to solving the world's problems...........not. The EU can't even keep it's own membership from leaving(Britain first, who's next?). And the feckless UN has done nothing in it's history but pass meaningless and toothless 'resolutions'. Sit on their overstuffed pomposity and make such enormous decisions like where a Sovereign Nation can place it's Embassy. Again, Jan, the US told Europe how small a ball to roll their opinions and where to put that ball 241 years ago. And we still feel that way. Next time 'yall have a war, don't bother to call. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Mark Stevenson Send message Joined: 8 Sep 11 Posts: 1736 Credit: 174,899,165 RAC: 91 |
Same goes for you to , and while were at it why not get the fu#k out of Alconbury , Mildenhall & Lakenheath + ALL your other bases over here bye bye and good f-ing riddance :-) edit : Duncan Campbell Secret Society " in time of crisis " pt 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjdvuJ6dRcY Please c'mon over and try it nowadays !!!! It's well known you lot are over here for your own ends not to " help " us so bye bye Life is what you make of it :-) When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-) |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Same goes for you to , and while were at it why not get the fu#k out of Alconbury , Mildenhall & Lakenheath + ALL your other bases over here bye bye and good f-ing riddance :-)OK. Good luck getting Putin or Xi to bail you out the next time a Fuehrer comes calling......we've got other air assets that move, and cost about the same to maintain as land bases. CVN-77 USS George H.W. Bush CVN-76 USS Ronald Regan CVN-75 USS Harry S. Truman CVN-74 USS John C. Stennis CVN-73 USS George Washington CVN-72 USS Abraham Lincoln CVN-71 USS Theodore Roosevelt CVN-70 USS Carl Vinson CVN-69 USS Dwight D. Eisenhower CVN-68 USS Nimitz So who's gonna protect the Queen, and pump MILLIONS of pounds into the British economy when we leave? Good riddance indeed, same thing we said in 1776, and that's worked out pretty well for us since. The world, the UN, and especially the Brits, should understand by now when Americans get tired of being pushed around, we PUSH BACK.................HARD. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Good luck getting Putin or Xi to bail you out the next time a Fuehrer comes calling......we've got other air assets that move, and cost about the same to maintain as land bases. So you have access to classified Pentagon budgets? |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Nice assests, but you better get their crews fully trained up, especially in learning how to avoid cargo ships. They're going to be needed for the South China Sea area of operations when your administration finally push Ping Pong II into the same situation that pushed Japan into during the 30's culminating in December 7th 1941. Unlike 1950, this time there will be no UN police action, it's all down on you "Big Boys" When that happens, Trump will be correct - America is Great" again. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30661 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Nice list of slow big easy hit targets for the next gen anti-ship missile. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Nice list of slow big easy hit targets for the next gen anti-ship missile.Just think of all that American Steel required to replace them :-) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30661 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
And the tons of coal to refine the iron ore.Nice list of slow big easy hit targets for the next gen anti-ship missile.Just think of all that American Steel required to replace them :-) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34826 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Good luck getting Putin or Xi to bail you out the next time a Fuehrer comes calling......we've got other air assets that move, and cost about the same to maintain as land bases. Intelligent people around the world know that his name is now Trump, who's going out of his way to create WWIII and he's much more of a threat these days to world peace than the other 2 mentioned. Yes, idiots repeat history instead of learning from it. No cheers. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34826 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
It looks like WWIII is getting some much closer. :-( US will provide anti-tank weapons to Ukraine. More fuel being added to yet another fire, how many more fires are you idiots going to fuel? No cheers here either. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
America call the rest of the world bad , crazy , mad , despots ,commies , corrupt but the only Country that interferes in other country's is America . Russia spy's and maybe is using internet to try and influence a election and with not much luck ...has a problem with Ukraine but that is more a civil war that's raged for Decades China spy's and is spending big on infrastructure in other country's but hasn't or wanted to invade or take over other country's But neither is actually interfering any where near the same level as America and that is why you are Number 1 targets for all peoples on the planet Voting a D&&&&&&d to power has made things worse America is seen as the only country that will actually start ww3 . Your country has tried to topple even your Allies own Prime ministers because you thought and still think that a Party called Labor is actually a communist type of party . You have caused big problem for Socialist Country's Muslim country's and yet these country's pose no threat to you but it hasn't stoped you has it The Chinese want respect and influence but not control The Russians are just that but even there reasons are understandable America has no reasons , does not want respect and wishes to not only control but enslave the world for MONEY Money is considered to be the worst reason in the world to commit a crime and is even considered to be a "Heinious of all reasons to kill someone " So yes Americans do have a reason to think everyone is against you so what now , you going to kill your self if you can't win and take the rest of us with you Good luck as it will be America that will end up the worst off after ww3 and the nukes fall where other country's will recover America will be a radiation waste land that you created as there are more country's with nukes that face you than face them. You can learn thou and start to change things but I wont hold my breath for that one |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Good luck as it will be America that will end up the worst off after ww3 and the nukes fall where other country's will recover America will be a radiation waste land that you created as there are more country's with nukes that face you than face them.And just WHO, in your opium dream, is going to deliver those nukes to the US without suffering the exact same result. A little thing called M.A.D. insures no one can touch the shores of America with impunity, just as we cannot do the same. Only a MAD man would lob even a single nuke at the US and there is, at present, hopefully, only one man MAD enough to think that way. And a single nuke may be all he CAN lob, but the result to his home will be horrible and final. As to there being more countries with nukes than the US, that's true. And they all know full well what will happen to their countries if they get involved (See movie "On the Beach"). How many warheads are on a single Ohio Class 'Boomer'? And how many 'Boomers' are at sea? (I'll give you one answer, 288). Start a nuclear war with the US and you can't run far enough OR hide. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Only a MAD man would lob even a single nuke at the US and there is, at present, hopefully, only one man MAD enough to think that way. And a single nuke may be all he CAN lob, but the result to his home will be horrible and final. Thinking you can retaliate without other country's being effected is MAD . He lobs one over your way and only you suffer ... you only have 2 other country's that boarder you and unless it's close to either border the other country's will not be effected much However lobbing a few at Fat kim is a whole different thing as there are many country's close enough that even 1 will cause Radiation to effect them . 1 you may get away with but your gona need more than 1 I think Japan did not surrender because you lobed 2 nukes over there way , they surrendered because the Russians sent 1 million troop across the Manchurian border not because of the nukes .In fact the Japs surrendered to you lot because they would get a better deal and you fell for it and have swallowed the B/S about how you dropped 2 nukes and that stop ww2. When you tell lies to yourself you become DELUSONAL and you now have a DELUSONAL potus |
j mercer Send message Joined: 3 Jun 99 Posts: 2422 Credit: 12,323,733 RAC: 1 |
Har... nobody is safe. And you are ground Zero by your own words. "Duck & Cover" ... |
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