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Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
Question? Could I just replace the 3 executables from the repository version of 7.2.42 with these ones? |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
It should work by just copying and pasting the files mentioned back here; ...If you already have a working BOINC folder in your Home folder running zi3v and just want the New BOINC 7.2.47, copy the following files from the Download and paste them into your Existing BOINC folder;It works for me and I've changed Apps dozens of times in the BOINC Folder in my Home Folder. I haven't used the Repository version of BOINC in over Four years, so, can't help with that. |
W3Perl Send message Joined: 29 Apr 99 Posts: 251 Credit: 3,696,783,867 RAC: 12,606 |
Oh, I forgot to mention another one of the features BOINC 7.2.47 has over the older 7.2.42; I'm using BOINC 7.8.0 and it works fine on Ubuntu 16.04. The only problem is in the window display. No way to increase the window size, so, many option cannot be selected. Does it include also feature 5) ? It would solve the tuesday outage problem ? |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
I'm using BOINC 7.8.0 and it works fine on Ubuntu 16.04.The mentioned feature is only in 7.2.47, it was designed for people such as myself who run the Special App. Hmmm, I haven't had any trouble resizing the Manager window in 7.8, which video driver are you using? I'm using the Repository driver, my machines don't like the drivers from nVidia running with kernel 4.10. |
W3Perl Send message Joined: 29 Apr 99 Posts: 251 Credit: 3,696,783,867 RAC: 12,606 |
I'm using BOINC 7.8.0 and it works fine on Ubuntu 16.04.The mentioned feature is only in 7.2.47, it was designed for people such as myself who run the Special App. Yes I'm running the nvidia driver (mageia 6 using kernel 4.9) ... nvidia driver is 384, mageia is still 375 Problem affect only window with sub-windows (computing preferences) |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
Yes I'm running the nvidia driver (mageia 6 using kernel 4.9) ... nvidia driver is 384, mageia is still 375That was my first thought. I can't run 384 at all on my Ubuntu 16.04 machines with kernel 4.10, NV 384 works fine with Ubuntu kernel 4.8. The Repository driver 375.66 has worked fine on my machines, you might want to give that a try. The only problem I've found with BOINC 7.8 is it makes the Tasks Page Jump to the bottom during random scheduler updates which for me is a show stopper. BOINC 7.2.47 works fine in Ubuntu 14.04.5, but has the stopping problem with 16.04. I think there is another problem with 7.2.47 in Ubuntu 16.04, it doesn't print the stdoutdae.txt whereas it prints it in Ubuntu 14.04.5. Don't know why there are differences in 16.04, but so far it hasn't been anything major, and sure beats a Jumping Tasks page. |
W3Perl Send message Joined: 29 Apr 99 Posts: 251 Credit: 3,696,783,867 RAC: 12,606 |
That was my first thought. I can't run 384 at all on my Ubuntu 16.04 machines with kernel 4.10, NV 384 works fine with Ubuntu kernel 4.8. The Repository driver 375.66 has worked fine on my machines, you might want to give that a try. The only problem I've found with BOINC 7.8 is it makes the Tasks Page Jump to the bottom during random scheduler updates which for me is a show stopper. BOINC 7.2.47 works fine in Ubuntu 14.04.5, but has the stopping problem with 16.04. I think there is another problem with 7.2.47 in Ubuntu 16.04, it doesn't print the stdoutdae.txt whereas it prints it in Ubuntu 14.04.5. Don't know why there are differences in 16.04, but so far it hasn't been anything major, and sure beats a Jumping Tasks page. Don't understand what you means by 'Tasks Page Jump'....anyway version 8.0 works fine for me on Ubuntu 16.04.3 using repository driver 375.66. There is a BOINC meeting in Paris beginning of september...time to report all those problems ;) btw, is there any update on macos software ? the webiste seems to be outdated http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?topic=191.msg4501#msg4501 My mac crash and I get a new one...was looking for the latest build for sierra. Found MBv8_8.22r3605_avx2_x86_64-apple-darwin and MBv8_8.22r3610_ati5_ssse3_x86_64-apple-darwin in a backup (you sent me those files beginning january). Thanks. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22237 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Don't understand what you means by 'Tasks Page Jump'....anyway version 8.0 works fine for me on Ubuntu 16.04.3 using repository driver 375.66. In the BOINC Manager, under Linux: When looking at the tasks page of the GUI the list suddenly re-arranges itself into what appears to be "newest at top" order. This is not related to the version of SETI being run, or the video driver being used, it is a "feature" of the more recent Linux version of BOINC Manager (7.6.31) . Certainly in earlier version of BOINC Manager this did not happen (but I can't remember how far back one has to go). There is a BOINC meeting in Paris beginning of September...time to report all those problems ;) This meeting is more about the way forward than fixing bugs. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
I also built a BOINC 7.4.53 version and it also has the Jumping Tasks Page Bug, as does the 7.6.33 version I built. I haven't tried the Still current (After 3 YEARS!) 7.4.22 Development version in a while, but I remember that version also having the Tasks Page Bug. The last version that Doesn't have the Bug is 7.2.42, which is why I went through the trouble of Building the 7.2.47 version and fixing a couple outstanding Bugs with that version. 7.2.47 works acceptably well on my machines. There is a list of the problems I encounter in a thread at the BOINC Forum in the BOINC Manager section, for anyone interested. I haven't worked on the Mac since I filed the Bug report back in May about the New Pascal Driver basically breaking my CUDA Apps. The Bug report is still Open as far as I know. I suspect the nVidia driver problems in OSX are related to the Linux kernel 4.10 problems as they occurred around the same time. I see there is a New OSX CUDA driver, I might give that a try in a couple weeks. I haven't been very happy with Apple lately, they've made it almost impossible to boot to another platform without jumping through their hoops. I thought my XP system had turned belly up until I finally got Linux working again. Then I discovered there wasn't anything wrong with XP, Apple was just blocking it. My XP works fine when started from the Grub screen. It was also a pain to get Linux working again since I don't have an EFI Boot screen with my nVidia cards. Seems they are going out of their way to make any computing except their own difficult. |
W3Perl Send message Joined: 29 Apr 99 Posts: 251 Credit: 3,696,783,867 RAC: 12,606 |
Don't see anything like this on 7.2.42 or 7.8.0....anyway, not really important. There is a BOINC meeting in Paris beginning of September...time to report all those problems ;) This meeting is more about the way forward than fixing bugs.[/quote] |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
Are you sure you don't see the Page jumping with BOINC 7.8? When I switched a machine from 7.2.47 to 7.8 a few hours ago it immediately jumped to the bottom of the page on startup. I scrolled it back to the top and 5 minutes later it was back at the bottom. I gave up and reversed the sorting to have the active tasks at the bottom and it's been there since. Unfortunately it will occasionally jump just high enough off the bottom to where the active tasks are out of view. Open the Manager to the Tasks Tab and sort by Progress with the active tasks at the Top of the Page. See how long it stays that way. |
W3Perl Send message Joined: 29 Apr 99 Posts: 251 Credit: 3,696,783,867 RAC: 12,606 |
Are you sure you don't see the Page jumping with BOINC 7.8? When I switched a machine from 7.2.47 to 7.8 a few hours ago it immediately jumped to the bottom of the page on startup. I scrolled it back to the top and 5 minutes later it was back at the bottom. I gave up and reversed the sorting to have the active tasks at the bottom and it's been there since. Unfortunately it will occasionally jump just high enough off the bottom to where the active tasks are out of view. Open the Manager to the Tasks Tab and sort by Progress with the active tasks at the Top of the Page. See how long it stays that way. sorry no problem ! 1) open the Tasks Tab 2) show all tasks 3) sort by Progress so active tasks are at top 4) 100% completed tasks at top after few minutes 5) After 10 minutes, completed tasks disappear as they are sent to servers till display active tasks at top 20 minutes after... will wait until CPU tasks are completed (one hour)... |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
Keep watching, I've had it go as long as 2 hours without jumping. Other times it jumps every Update or 2. On Tuesdays when it isn't downloading tasks it will stay at the top for as long as it isn't downloading new tasks, once the downloads start, it jumps back to the bottom to show the downloads. It appears it's sole purpose it to show the tasks being downloaded, it doesn't care what you want to view. |
W3Perl Send message Joined: 29 Apr 99 Posts: 251 Credit: 3,696,783,867 RAC: 12,606 |
Keep watching, I've had it go as long as 2 hours without jumping. Other times it jumps every Update or 2. On Tuesdays when it isn't downloading tasks it will stay at the top for as long as it isn't downloading new tasks, once the downloads start, it jumps back to the bottom to show the downloads. It appears it's sole purpose it to show the tasks being downloaded, it doesn't care what you want to view. 12 hours later...still no problem ! |
W3Perl Send message Joined: 29 Apr 99 Posts: 251 Credit: 3,696,783,867 RAC: 12,606 |
Keep watching, I've had it go as long as 2 hours without jumping. Other times it jumps every Update or 2. On Tuesdays when it isn't downloading tasks it will stay at the top for as long as it isn't downloading new tasks, once the downloads start, it jumps back to the bottom to show the downloads. It appears it's sole purpose it to show the tasks being downloaded, it doesn't care what you want to view. |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
. . Not quite. Create/install the, BOINC folder under your home folder and then you will have the usual BOINC/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu folder for SETI, copy the special app and libraries into that folder. I haven't looked, will the "standard" Ubuntu repository install put the bionic folder under your Home folder? I haven't gotten around to deleting Lubuntu and doing a fresh install. Side tracked by work, family Win10 tech support, a new diet and installing Win Server 2012 r2. ;) Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
I've had the Jumping Tasks Page on Ubuntu 12.04, 14.04, 16.04, Mint 18.2, & Xubuntu 16.04. Everyone else that has tried has also had the same problem. I just tried to install Mageia 6 and apparently there is some non-Ubuntu trick to getting the Driver to work. It says the Current 375.66 is installed, but it seems the open source driver is still working as BOINC says No Usable GPUs. My last attempt was to change the 3D setting to use compiz and now it refuses to Boot. It seems Mageia is much less user friendly than the Ubuntu varieties. Too bad if Mageia really doesn't have the problem, it would at least double the difficulty for new users, heck, I can't even get it to work. Back to Ubuntu and BOINC 7.2.47 for me, where the Tasks page also doesn't jump.Keep watching, I've had it go as long as 2 hours without jumping. Other times it jumps every Update or 2. On Tuesdays when it isn't downloading tasks it will stay at the top for as long as it isn't downloading new tasks, once the downloads start, it jumps back to the bottom to show the downloads. It appears it's sole purpose it to show the tasks being downloaded, it doesn't care what you want to view. |
W3Perl Send message Joined: 29 Apr 99 Posts: 251 Credit: 3,696,783,867 RAC: 12,606 |
I've had the Jumping Tasks Page on Ubuntu 12.04, 14.04, 16.04, Mint 18.2, & Xubuntu 16.04. Everyone else that has tried has also had the same problem. I just tried to install Mageia 6 and apparently there is some non-Ubuntu trick to getting the Driver to work. It says the Current 375.66 is installed, but it seems the open source driver is still working as BOINC says No Usable GPUs. My last attempt was to change the 3D setting to use compiz and now it refuses to Boot. It seems Mageia is much less user friendly than the Ubuntu varieties. Too bad if Mageia really doesn't have the problem, it would at least double the difficulty for new users, heck, I can't even get it to work. Back to Ubuntu and BOINC 7.2.47 for me, where the Tasks page also doesn't jump.Keep watching, I've had it go as long as 2 hours without jumping. Other times it jumps every Update or 2. On Tuesdays when it isn't downloading tasks it will stay at the top for as long as it isn't downloading new tasks, once the downloads start, it jumps back to the bottom to show the downloads. It appears it's sole purpose it to show the tasks being downloaded, it doesn't care what you want to view. 24 hours later....jumping tasks page is there on mageia 6 ! I don't understand why it was working fine for a whole day and now the bug is there ! anyway, this is not a serious bug for me, I use to display only running tasks. Make sure driver is set to "nvidia'" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I agree mageia is not as user friendly as ubuntu...but it's a french distribution ;) |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
. . No! The repository version of BOINC will install in /var/lib/boinc-client. You may run into permission/ownership issues if you are working with that version. There are several ways to attack that problem but I forget which way worked the best for me. Stephen :( |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
I don't know why anyone would use the repository version of BOINC when TBar has so kindly given us two All-In-One Home folder installations that couldn't be easier. You have a choice of the most recent 7.8.0 version or a tried and true 7.2.47 version with all the bugs removed. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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