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Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
When I run QOpt, I get 4 lines saying "INFO: No tasks running with the specified criteria". I have never seen that message before. Are you sure that the Rescheduler is in the BOINC folder and not your SETI folder? |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Well, there goes that theory that not many people are running CUDA tasks now with all the GUPPI work that is being delivered. I sort of assumed most everyone would be running the SoG app for the predominance of GUPPI's we now have. And not many people are running Petri's special CUDA sauce since it is still considered beta. So I wondered whether the apps didn't have much exposure to the CUDA apps and might have an obscure issue. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
Ok - Thanks to all for your help. . . Hi TA . . I am sorry but I no longer have XP running on any rigs that are crunching. The only thing I might suggest is to install Lunatics and then you will know that the aps crunching are within the scope of the rescheduler. If it still fails to identify and move them then the problem may be an incompatibility with XP. The rescheduler relies on first identifying Arecibo work in the CPU queue that can be moved and will only move as many guppi tasks from the GPU queue as it has moved normals from the CPU queue. So failing to identify the first group will result in no action. But the more common error message is that it has failed to identify the version of tasks that are running. Maybe that will steer you towards a solution. Stephen . |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
I looked back through the entire thread looking for anyone that is running CUDA successfully with the rescheduler. Nobody else in the thread has explicitly said they have the program running CUDA tasks. It would be helpful is anyone reading this thread and using the program with CUDA to say what luck they are having with it. . . Hi Keith . . I am running CUDA50 on Mi_Burrito (Core2 Duo, GT730, Win10 and the very latest BOINC{7.6.33} and previously 7.6.22) and using the qopt-rescheduler successfully on that rig. I do know that if you are running stock and have mixed apps running then the rescheduler can fail to run because it does not know which app to use for them. But as I said to TA, that usually gives the "failed to identify app version running" message. I recall there was a message at one point that stipulated running Lunatics to keep the apps homogenous. But never having received the message he cites I cannot say that is the problem. Stephen . |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
Well, there goes that theory that not many people are running CUDA tasks now with all the GUPPI work that is being delivered. I sort of assumed most everyone would be running the SoG app for the predominance of GUPPI's we now have. And not many people are running Petri's special CUDA sauce since it is still considered beta. So I wondered whether the apps didn't have much exposure to the CUDA apps and might have an obscure issue. . . I think Petri's app is more Alpha then Beta, you have to compile it to run it and you need to know a lot to get it to work on your platform. I think it is still months away from hitting a Beta (Lunatics?) release. But I can assure you there is no issue with CUDA50. Stephen . |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Stephen, I think I know where you were going with your thinking in your post. But Terror is not running stock apps controlled by client_state making supposedly smart,efficient app choices. He is running the Anonymous platform and unless he cooked up his app_info from scratch, probably used the Lunatics installer. That forces you into making one single MB GPU app choice so not the case where multiple GPU apps are confusing the rescheduler and it bails out. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
Stephen, I think I know where you were going with your thinking in your post. But Terror is not running stock apps controlled by client_state making supposedly smart,efficient app choices. He is running the Anonymous platform and unless he cooked up his app_info from scratch, probably used the Lunatics installer. That forces you into making one single MB GPU app choice so not the case where multiple GPU apps are confusing the rescheduler and it bails out. . . Hi Keith, . . You would think I would learn to actually look at the guys setup before giving advice :( Oops! . . Well another perfectly good theory shot down in flames. So maybe the finger of blame lies in the directories that BOINC is installed in. But Jimbo made several corrections to overcome that issue so I doubt it. The only directory related issue that I know of is that the rescheduler MUST be in the BOINC directory and not the project directory or anywhere else. Funny how computing can always manage to confound us :) Stephen . |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
The log will tell the story ... |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
Anyone remember what the solution was to getting rid of the Red Ball and "reconnecting to client" timeout error? Cliff Harding is having an issue with this since upgrade to Win 10. (GR and QOpt not in play, happens to him when an excluded app is run and then exits). For the life of me I can't recall if there was a solution needed or if it just went away on its own? Or is it still happening and I just don't know it ... |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
I believe I remember the topic but I can't put my finger in what thread it came up in. I did a search on "reconnecting to client" but it produced results several years old. The gist of those comments were about either reinstalling BOINC or keeping AV programs fingers off the BOINC directories. That doesn't fit with what I remember the last conversations were about. I think the problem was explained by Richard. Hope somebody else with better memory or forum notes can set us straight. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
I believe I remember the topic but I can't put my finger in what thread it came up in. I did a search on "reconnecting to client" but it produced results several years old. The gist of those comments were about either reinstalling BOINC or keeping AV programs fingers off the BOINC directories. That doesn't fit with what I remember the last conversations were about. I think the problem was explained by Richard. Hope somebody else with better memory or forum notes can set us straight. There were some comments about it back around pg 22-23 of this thread, but nothing definitive. When I released 1.02k I added the -cx option to add x seconds of delay to client restart, but don't believe that had a positive effect. I had the issue here, but haven't seen it since early Nov, and don't remember why? Frustrating ... I need to keep better notes in the unlikely event I ever tackle another thing like this. |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
I believe I remember the topic but I can't put my finger in what thread it came up in. I did a search on "reconnecting to client" but it produced results several years old. The gist of those comments were about either reinstalling BOINC or keeping AV programs fingers off the BOINC directories. That doesn't fit with what I remember the last conversations were about. I think the problem was explained by Richard. Hope somebody else with better memory or forum notes can set us straight. . . If my memory serves me well Richard mentioned an issue about timing on the restart, saying that things like the rescheduler may be jumping the gun a little. A second attempt to start the manager/client seemed to work in the cases mentioned. Stephen . |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
. . If my memory serves me well Richard mentioned an issue about timing on the restart, saying that things like the rescheduler may be jumping the gun a little. A second attempt to start the manager/client seemed to work in the cases mentioned. That was the discussion, and that's where I added the -cx delay restart option to QOpt, but even if we ran it up to 15 seconds, it didn't help. 0,5,10 or 15 seconds didn't change anything. Just seems weird that it has vanished without a trace as an issue. |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
Yea, I don't remember any definitive answer to the issue, but the topic did seem to vanish. Basically it was to just restart BOINC wasn't it? I do remember mine doing it occasionally, and sometimes it did require a reboot. Tasks were running, but couldn't see them. With Exclusives apps, I would think it might be in the BOINC upgrades, Have you upgraded Keith? It shouldn't have anything to do with short duration timing for an Exclusive app since it is not a 5 second thing (normally). |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
I don't have the problem, Brent. Jim said it was Cliff Harding who was having issue restarting after an exclusive app was polled. I am on the latest 7.6.33 and haven't had any BOINC issues for at least a couple of revisions back. I haven't seen the problem being discussed. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34766 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I don't have the problem, Brent. Jim said it was Cliff Harding who was having issue restarting after an exclusive app was polled. I am on the latest 7.6.33 and haven't had any BOINC issues for at least a couple of revisions back. I haven't seen the problem being discussed. I'm on version 6.10.60 and there's been no problems for me, but then I don't move things about either. Cheers. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I'm running Win10 Pro 64bit and it does take the manager longer to connect with the client than it does for Win7/Vista. There have been one or 2 occasions where the red dot is there after 15 seconds or so, in which case I just exited BOINC, waited 5 seconds & restarted. It connects OK after that. Grant Darwin NT |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
I too have noticed the much longer time to connect with the client on Windows 10 64 bit. It's pretty much instantaneous on my Windows 7 64 bit machines. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
Yea, I don't remember any definitive answer to the issue, but the topic did seem to vanish. Hate it when that happens :) With Exclusives apps, I would think it might be in the BOINC upgrades, Have you upgraded Keith? It is Cliff Harding that was having the issue, but a good point to ensure the BOINC client is up to date ... |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
I'm running Win10 Pro 64bit and it does take the manager longer to connect with the client than it does for Win7/Vista. Alternately, just double-click the BOINC tray icon, then File, Select computer and arrow key will fill the computer to connect fields. Saves on restarts. |
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