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Message 1811368 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 14:59:34 UTC - in response to Message 1811367.  

Well, thank you kind sir! Looks like I just picked up 35 or so in the last few minutes, so that should help for a while. :-)

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Message 1811369 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 15:00:52 UTC

8:00AM in Berkeley....time for coffee.

Oh, crap, what's happened to the servers??????????????????


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Message 1811370 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 15:01:04 UTC - in response to Message 1811368.  
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I need to find my portable apps version so I can abort ~300 tasks as I need to clean/format that USB and I don't actually use that version too often only in development of the portableapp
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Message 1811385 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 15:56:49 UTC

Well, there is tasks, but only VLAR, so no joy for GPU's....
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Message 1811386 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 15:58:29 UTC - in response to Message 1811385.  

You mean no joy for your Arecibo loving GPU, my GPUs feast on VLARS, lol... ;)
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Message 1811391 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 16:08:53 UTC

The kitties are lovin' it.

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Message 1811395 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 16:14:14 UTC

I really really miss the SSP.
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Message 1811402 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 16:29:10 UTC - in response to Message 1811346.  
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It will be interesting to see how the rig with 56 cores shapes up, once I get the time to complete it.

Hey Al: We need to discuss your CPU core obsession! lol

But you just gave me a thought that could be included in future Boinc major release!
I remember reading a post (which I can't find) by someone from the staff (Dr Korpela?) about NOT being able to program Boinc to recognize multiple CPUs
...but a reference about BOINC only being able to see the # of CPU cores.

@all:
Maybe it would be worth looking into that further?!?
Why not put a new deviceTaskLimit for CPUcores (instead of the current perMotherboard limit)
Obviously 100/core would be WAY too high...but since we have the daily updates of
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cpu_list.php,
we might be able to come up with a scenario that might be better than the current 100/mobo limit.
It could satisfy multiCPU rigs like LotzaCores without having an impact on slow rigs that are currently limited by the 10day limit.

We'd just have to determine a good max/CPUcore that wouldn't have a negative impact on:
1. servers; and
2. mid range rigs with 4-8cores
but benefit greatly: high end Rigs that have 8-24cores
[edit]A quick guess-stimate would be to start with 25/core (since for a quad core, that's 100/4) for calculation purposes. That would likely be way too high to minimize server impact.

Keep in mind that Boinc currently has a 1000task limit per rig per project, which I discovered a few weeks ago and published in a new thread that was removed because of the "Auhust 2016 saga"[/e]

Is it worth starting a new thread?
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Message 1811416 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 16:49:32 UTC
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It's currently out of the technical reach of the mods (as you can see froma profile that hasn't changed in almost a week)
...so it pretty much gives you "carte-blanche" for even non-'kid friendly' content (until the official antiquated forum rules get a well-deserved update)


The offensive profile you have cited is in a currently banned account.

You are correct in that moderators cannot make changes to or hide profiles. If a profile is inappropriate, the user is asked to modify it. If the user does not comply, the account is banned.

Suggesting that a fellow community member post offensive material in a profile is neither good nor helpful advice.
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Message 1811434 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 17:12:55 UTC - in response to Message 1811416.  
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It's currently out of the technical reach of the mods (as you can see froma profile that hasn't changed in almost a week)
...so it pretty much gives you "carte-blanche" for even non-'kid friendly' content (until the official antiquated forum rules get a well-deserved update)
Suggesting that a fellow community member post offensive material in a profile is neither good nor helpful advice.

My apology Angela.
I only implied that his Bill Cosby reference might not be considered 'kid friendly'. I should have been clearer on that.

As for the inapproprite profile I linked to, I didn't realize the user account had been suspended.
Maybe a bug report could be filed somewhere (I don't know where) so that the top of profile indicates that the user account is currently suspended (or for the profile to be hidden).

Feel free to modify my post with the link to that profile or even to hide the post completely.
My apology again,
RobG

[edit]I have pressed the little red X on my ambiguous post in order to have it removed. I just hope there is no need to remove any posts that references it.[/e]
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Message 1811457 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 18:09:40 UTC
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Thank you for red-xing your own post. I am happy to remove it, at your request, as it does provide a link to an inappropriate profile in a currently banned account.

Per your request, I will leave my response and your subsequent post standing, as I think that the discussion clarifies one of the issues you have raised.

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We do what we can to make our boards a pleasant place for most.
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Message 1811463 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 18:18:51 UTC - in response to Message 1811457.  

Still no Guppies.
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Message 1811525 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 21:07:45 UTC

If any of you hungering for guppis happen to have any recent "lost" or "ghost" tasks in your task lists, you might have some guppis there and there's always the "report the same task twice trick" available to retrieve them. See Message 1798083. I had 9 lost tasks from a snafu last week, 7 of which were guppis, and just retrieved mine a few minutes ago:
8/22/2016 1:56:49 PM | SETI@home | Reporting 1 completed tasks
8/22/2016 1:56:49 PM | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
8/22/2016 1:56:53 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 9 new tasks
8/22/2016 1:56:53 PM | SETI@home | Resent lost task blc5_2bit_guppi_57451_71111_HIP117779_OFF_0028.24420.831.17.26.118.vlar_1
8/22/2016 1:56:53 PM | SETI@home | Resent lost task blc5_2bit_guppi_57451_71786_HIP117779_OFF_0030.24392.416.18.27.205.vlar_1
8/22/2016 1:56:53 PM | SETI@home | Resent lost task blc5_2bit_guppi_57451_71786_HIP117779_OFF_0030.24392.416.18.27.208.vlar_1
8/22/2016 1:56:53 PM | SETI@home | Resent lost task blc5_2bit_guppi_57451_69735_HIP117559_OFF_0024.24364.831.17.26.169.vlar_1
8/22/2016 1:56:53 PM | SETI@home | Resent lost task blc5_2bit_guppi_57451_69735_HIP117559_OFF_0024.2764.416.18.27.82.vlar_1
8/22/2016 1:56:53 PM | SETI@home | Resent lost task blc5_2bit_guppi_57451_69735_HIP117559_OFF_0024.2764.416.18.27.144.vlar_1
8/22/2016 1:56:53 PM | SETI@home | Resent lost task blc5_2bit_guppi_57451_69735_HIP117559_OFF_0024.2764.416.18.27.150.vlar_0
8/22/2016 1:56:53 PM | SETI@home | Resent lost task 24mr10an.30485.11523.5.32.206_2
8/22/2016 1:56:53 PM | SETI@home | Resent lost task 04no09ae.4389.18886.8.35.192_2
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Message 1811539 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 21:43:35 UTC - in response to Message 1811525.  

Without doing anything special, like asking for resends .... it looks like GUPPI's are flowing again.

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256 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:39:56 PM Scheduler request completed: got 36 new tasks
257 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:39:58 PM Started download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25600.831.21.44.176.vlar
258 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:39:58 PM Started download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25573.831.22.45.128.vlar
259 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:40:00 PM Finished download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25600.831.21.44.176.vlar
260 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:40:00 PM Finished download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25573.831.22.45.128.vlar
261 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:40:00 PM Started download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25573.831.22.45.183.vlar
262 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:40:00 PM Started download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25627.831.22.45.142.vlar
263 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:40:02 PM Finished download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25573.831.22.45.183.vlar
264 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:40:02 PM Finished download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25627.831.22.45.142.vlar
265 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:40:02 PM Started download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25573.831.22.45.110.vlar
266 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:40:02 PM Started download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25536.831.21.44.177.vlar
267 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:40:04 PM Finished download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25573.831.22.45.110.vlar
268 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:40:04 PM Finished download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25536.831.21.44.177.vlar
269 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:40:04 PM Started download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25600.831.21.44.106.vlar
270 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:40:04 PM Started download of 29mr10ak.29481.20930.14.41.4
271 SETI@home 8/22/2016 2:40:05 PM Finished download of blc2_2bit_guppi_57403_68500_HIP11048_0002.25600.831.21.44.106.vlar
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Message 1811545 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 22:00:49 UTC - in response to Message 1811539.  

And picking one of those at random shows that it's a brand new splitting: WU 2243771075

created 22 Aug 2016, 21:39:44 UTC

We're back in business, with a working SSP (but very few tapes).
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Message 1811547 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 22:05:47 UTC - in response to Message 1811545.  

SETI@home server status information is also available in XML.

[As of 21 Aug 2016, 17:10:06 UTC]

This is what the SSP shpws me.
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Message 1811548 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 22:06:02 UTC - in response to Message 1810827.  

The Arecibo work certainly is boosting everybody's RAC for the contest.

Not mine, I stopped crunching seti on it's GPU and put an i5 on seti 3 weeks ago, and doubled my RAC. As nearly as I can tell CPUs don't care.



. . CPUs actually like Guppis (well mine do anyway). They run quicker than normal AR work so yes your RAC would go up. But normARs definitely run better than VLAR work on GPUs. If you are interested there is a thread about optimising your rig by rescheduling assigned work to the most appropriate device.

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Message 1811549 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 22:08:34 UTC - in response to Message 1811548.  
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. . CPUs actually like Guppis (well mine do anyway). They run quicker than normal AR work so yes your RAC would go up. But normARs definitely run better than VLAR work on GPUs. If you are interested there is a thread about optimising your rig by rescheduling assigned work to the most appropriate device.

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Not true, My GPUs squash any CPU calculation of VLARs

The issue is, how do you have your system set up, what kind of GPUs and what modifications of the system have you done.

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Message 1811550 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 22:09:44 UTC - in response to Message 1811547.  

SETI@home server status information is also available in XML.

[As of 21 Aug 2016, 17:10:06 UTC]

This is what the SSP shpws me.


Do Ctrl+F5
It's showing for me: [As of 22 Aug 2016, 22:00:03 UTC]
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Message 1811551 - Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 22:15:08 UTC - in response to Message 1811550.  

SETI@home server status information is also available in XML.

[As of 21 Aug 2016, 17:10:06 UTC]

This is what the SSP shpws me.


Do Ctrl+F5
It's showing for me: [As of 22 Aug 2016, 22:00:03 UTC]

[As of 22 Aug 2016, 22:10:04 UTC]
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