Panic Mode On (102) Server Problems?

Author	Message
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34929 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489	Message 1774258 - Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 21:42:21 UTC It could be very likely that those tapes have already been processed by the current AP app (they are from 2010 after all) and if that's the case then nothing is being lost (and why they were added while the AP database down). ;-) Cheers. ID: 1774258 ·

rob smith Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22228 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380	Message 1774259 - Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 21:45:58 UTC Splitting and our processing are not dependent on the AP (or MB) database being running - it is only the validation and recording of the results that need the database. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? ID: 1774259 ·

Jimbocous Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349	Message 1774261 - Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 21:49:30 UTC - in response to Message 1774258. It could be very likely that those tapes have already been processed by the current AP app (they are from 2010 after all) and if that's the case then nothing is being lost (and why they were added while the AP database down). ;-) Cheers. Could be, but I have to wonder how it would be known that they have already been processed, if the database that contains that info is down? Just sayin ... :) ID: 1774261 ·

Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13	Message 1774274 - Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 22:42:17 UTC - in response to Message 1774259. Splitting and our processing are not dependent on the AP (or MB) database being running - it is only the validation and recording of the results that need the database. Pretty sure it is. When WUs get split, they are checked against the DB to see if it's already been split before. Since the DB is disabled, that check can't happen, but splitting happens anyway, so those channels end with an error. And then if the DB were running, and they haven't been split before (with this generation of the app, at least), then entries are made in the DB for those WUs, which the results of will then be added once validation is done and assimilation happens. tl;dr: the science DB needs to be running for WUs to split and be issued. Re-issues (_2+) do not need the DB, but _0 and _1 does. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) ID: 1774274 ·

Kevin Olley Send message Joined: 3 Aug 99 Posts: 906 Credit: 261,085,289 RAC: 572	Message 1774588 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 0:05:28 UTC - in response to Message 1774507. Ah well, now the SSP is stuck at [As of 27 Mar 2016, 16:30:05 UTC] That usually means that something bad will happen soon :-( Batten the hatches, we may be going down.... 28/03/2016 01:03:12 \| SETI@home \| Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance Kevin ID: 1774588 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182	Message 1774589 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 0:06:15 UTC Now getting reports that Server is shut down for maintenance. No WUs uploading/downloading. SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours ID: 1774589 ·

HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57	Message 1774592 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 0:11:17 UTC - in response to Message 1774588. Ah well, now the SSP is stuck at [As of 27 Mar 2016, 16:30:05 UTC] That usually means that something bad will happen soon :-( Batten the hatches, we may be going down.... 28/03/2016 01:03:12 \| SETI@home \| Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance Looking in my logs it looks like I first got that at 2016/03/28 23:49 UTC, or about 4:49PM Berkeley time. Maybe Jeff or Eric popped in and have given things a kick or some of the automated things are going into self preservation mode. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ ID: 1774592 ·

Grant (SSSF) Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13751 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304	Message 1774593 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 0:11:19 UTC - in response to Message 1774589. Now getting reports that Server is shut down for maintenance. No WUs uploading/downloading. My uploads are still going through, but the last Scheduler request resulted in a "Project down for maintenance" message & an extended communication backoff time. Grant Darwin NT ID: 1774593 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182	Message 1774598 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 0:22:55 UTC - in response to Message 1774593. You're right, they are uploading, just not reporting as of right now. SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours ID: 1774598 ·

betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66	Message 1774618 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 1:17:09 UTC Last modified: 28 Mar 2016, 1:19:20 UTC It is true something went down, we probably won't be able to report until well after 9:00 AM PDT or as the rest of the world calls it 16:00 GMT. ID: 1774618 ·

Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3	Message 1774626 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 1:54:16 UTC Umm I was going to ask the same thing betreger , weird the server pages worked site still works and so does the message boards opps big stuff up looks like ID: 1774626 ·

HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57	Message 1774629 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 2:00:00 UTC - in response to Message 1774618. It is true something went down, we probably won't be able to report until well after 9:00 AM PDT or as the rest of the world calls it 16:00 GMT. Depending on why the system is running in maintenance mode & if they know what is going on. Everything could be back online very quickly or maybe we will have maintenance on Monday instead of Tuesday this week. It has happened a few times before. Personally I don't listen to the people in Greenwich when they say what time it is & I won't be driven to by peer pressure!. They haven't been a scientific standard for decades. :P SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ ID: 1774629 ·

JLDun Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Apr 06 Posts: 573 Credit: 196,101 RAC: 0	Message 1774631 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 2:03:36 UTC - in response to Message 1774629. Just popped over to check, and the Beta SSP is still updating... As of 12 minutes ago. ID: 1774631 ·

Dave Send message Joined: 29 Mar 02 Posts: 778 Credit: 25,001,396 RAC: 0	Message 1774676 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 6:49:56 UTC - in response to Message 1774629. It is true something went down, we probably won't be able to report until well after 9:00 AM PDT or as the rest of the world calls it 16:00 GMT. Depending on why the system is running in maintenance mode & if they know what is going on. Everything could be back online very quickly or maybe we will have maintenance on Monday instead of Tuesday this week. It has happened a few times before. Personally I don't listen to the people in Greenwich when they say what time it is & I won't be driven to by peer pressure!. They haven't been a scientific standard for decades. :P Well that has been the established centre of World time for centuries, so it is more logical & understandable for everyone to use UT. Anyway yes I wondered why my GPU fans were quiet when everything else worked: SETI downtime again. ID: 1774676 ·

Old man Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Sep 07 Posts: 29 Credit: 3,025,264 RAC: 0	Message 1774680 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 7:29:55 UTC Sorry for OT but why "server status" page is this computer: centurion: Intel Server (2 x hexa-core 3.4GHz Xeon, 512 GB RAM)? It is part of hosts but is is not listed under server status list. ID: 1774680 ·

Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3	Message 1774682 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 7:46:19 UTC - in response to Message 1774680. errr old man not shore what your asking . The servers are down possibly a early maintenance day . As for the hex core computer is that yours if so we can't see it as you have your computers hidden ID: 1774682 ·

HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57	Message 1774694 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 9:01:28 UTC On the plus side the server status doesn't seem to be stuck any longer. However pretty much everything is currently disabled. Someone may have popped in remotely, or gotten an alert, and disabled everything. That way they can dig into it in the morning and see what is going on. Instead of spending the rest of their holiday weekending trying to figure out what is going on. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ ID: 1774694 ·

HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57	Message 1774695 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 9:09:02 UTC - in response to Message 1774680. Sorry for OT but why "server status" page is this computer: centurion: Intel Server (2 x hexa-core 3.4GHz Xeon, 512 GB RAM)? It is part of hosts but is is not listed under server status list. I don't know when that system snuck on the list. With 512GB of RAM perhaps it could be destined for, or already is, performing database duties. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ ID: 1774695 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14654 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874	Message 1774702 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 9:44:55 UTC - in response to Message 1774695. Sorry for OT but why "server status" page is this computer: centurion: Intel Server (2 x hexa-core 3.4GHz Xeon, 512 GB RAM)? It is part of hosts but is is not listed under server status list. I don't know when that system snuck on the list. With 512GB of RAM perhaps it could be destined for, or already is, performing database duties. My understanding is that it will be running a new instance of the science database to handle GBT (Green Bank Telescope) results. ID: 1774702 ·

Brent Norman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835	Message 1774703 - Posted: 28 Mar 2016, 9:51:54 UTC - in response to Message 1774702. I have always wondered why Thumper is on the list, A maintenance computer? ID: 1774703 ·

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