http://abc7.com/5-dead-several-injured-in-shooting-at-newspaper-office-in-annapolis/3670253/

ANNAPOLIS, Md. --
A gunman opened fire at a newspaper office in Annapolis on Thursday, killing five people and gravely wounding a number of others before being taken into custody in what appeared to be one of the deadliest attacks on journalists in U.S. history, police and witnesses said.

Police gave no immediate details on the gunman or the motive for the attack at The Capital Gazette and said he was being interrogated. Authorities said they also found what they believed to be an explosive device.

Phil Davis, a reporter who covers courts and crime for the paper, tweeted that the gunman shot out the glass door to the office and fired into the newsroom, sending people scrambling for cover under desks.

"A single shooter shot multiple people at my office, some of whom are dead," he wrote.

Davis added: "There is nothing more terrifying than hearing multiple people get shot while you're under your desk and then hear the gunman reload."

The gunman, who officials said was not carrying identification, is believed to have used a shotgun, according to a U.S. official who was briefed on the investigation but not authorized to discuss it publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. The official said the gunman was not cooperating with investigators.

Anne Arundel County Acting Police Chief William Krampf confirmed five deaths and said several others were gravely hurt.

It wont stop until the Laws are changed and the guns are out of the hands of those who don't need them..

If they start to change, then screams and hysterics will begin.
You can see them( screams and hysterics) in this thread.
There are people who do not want anything to change. They do not care how many people will be killed next time.

The real problems:

#1 - The USA Constitution and an almost political impossibly of changing or deleting the 2nd Amendment.

#2 - A choice made over 200 years ago against the Centralization of Power and still believed by most Americans.

#3 - An understanding that effective Gun Control will be impossible. Excepting the confiscation of all weapons from the vast majority, who are no threat to anyone.

Acknowledging the "screams and hysterics". I have not yet seen regarding this national debate. What would be effective gun control, excepting an impossible gun confiscation of perhaps 270 million to 310 million guns, in what has been estimated as 43-55 million households.

You are trying to complicate the discussion again.
It has been noted by me and others, that nobody is saying the 2nd has to be repealed.
What we are saying that there needs to be better control of firearms. Suggestions made here include;
#1. Better checking of persons who wish to purchase firearms, including a health check for mental health issues.
#2. All sales to be conducted by registered dealers. No sales of spare parts, all repairs modifications to be done by registered workshops. No gun fairs or person to person sales.
#3. Registration of all firearms.
#4. Security of firearms and ammunition. When not in use, locked in approved safety enclosures with firearms and ammunition stored separately. When carried to be done safely, not just stuck under waistband, in pocket or purse or in glove compartment or boot (trunk). i.e. Make sure children and others who shouldn't have access don't.
#5. All those that already own firearms and wish to keep them register them, within a reasonably time frame. Nobody is saying it has to be done tomorrow, and it needs to be federal administered registration database(s).

#1. Better checking of persons who wish to purchase firearms, including a health check for mental health issues.
#2. All sales to be conducted by registered dealers. No sales of spare parts, all repairs modifications to be done by registered workshops. No gun fairs or person to person sales.
#3. Registration of all firearms.
#4. Security of firearms and ammunition. When not in use, locked in approved safety enclosures with firearms and ammunition stored separately. When carried to be done safely, not just stuck under waistband, in pocket or purse or in glove compartment or boot (trunk). i.e. Make sure children and others who shouldn't have access don't.
#5. All those that already own firearms and wish to keep them register them, within a reasonably time frame. Nobody is saying it has to be done tomorrow, and it needs to be federal administered registration database(s).

In Russia, there is such a system of registration of weapons, for some it's the same dictatorship and no freedom)))))

Freedom only works when everybody has the self-discipline to treat others as they would like to be treated.
An example would be that speed limits would not be needed if everyone drove at the speed dictated by the prevailing conditions. That's never going to happen, therefore we have to accept laws that we don't like.

#2. All sales to be conducted by registered dealers. No sales of spare parts, all repairs modifications to be done by registered workshops. No gun fairs or person to person sales.
#3. Registration of all firearms.

Actually if you have #3, then you can have a gun fair. All that need be done is have a registering agent onsite. As to person to person sales, right now that is possible even for full auto weapons. It just has to pass through a dealers hands for the paperwork and tax stamp.

Self built firearms also need to get registered. Require them to have a makers mark and a S/N on them and the maker needs some paperwork documentation of every firearm he makes. Give the maker a short but reasonable time period to register the firearm.

I'd actually like to see a requirement for automatic of any degree weapons to be treated as we now treat full automatic weapons. Buy a tax stamp. That doesn't happen without a visit by ATF, at least for the first weapon. Each weapon is registered and local authorities are informed.

As to possession of an unregistered firearm for the first time, not a slap on the wrist but not a free ride*. Second time, it has to hurt and you won't be owning any after legally. Third time, well, three strikes and you are out. Use an unregistered firearm in another crime, some significant hurt. Do it twice and gibbeting, well, maybe we give them a 6 by 8 cage, but it is welded closed, no lock. Trading in unregistered firearms, that's three strikes at once, weld the door shut. Obviously using a registered firearm in another crime has to hurt too, perhaps just a hair less as that shows a little less pure criminal intent because it is traceable, er, maybe a couple mandatory extra consecutive years over the rest of the sentence for unregistered. Say just having any firearm on you while doing another crime adds a couple years, displaying or brandishing the firearm gets you an extra five, pointing it at someone - ADW - an extra ten, discharging it an extra 25 consecutive with the other sentence(s).

Now that unregistered firearms are illegal, we can solve person to person sales. If you have it and it isn't registered to you then either it is stolen and you are guilty of the theft** or you are involved in the trade of unregistered firearms, and so is the person it was registered to. No one will dare not handle person to person except through a registering agent and all stolen guns will be reported. Oh and stealing a firearm needs to be a much stronger sentence than just simple burglary, say double.




*give the judge enough possible range to decide if the person was just stupid or doing it on purpose.
**or prove you bought it legally and somehow didn't register it.

That could work but it ain't gonna happen.

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FAQ #1. Russian Gun Laws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0Wtyan3Qos
Where as in the US weapons doesn't even need registration.
Strange since driving a car you need a drivers licence and the car is always registrated.

Guns sold through dealers are listed by serial # when the FEDERAL background check is performed. This being the law, why would additional registration be necessary? Except for purposes of taxation or placement on a 'confiscation list'(as happened in the countries that required registration, most notably NAZI Germany).

Americans despise being on 'lists', and don't trust the 'list makers and keepers'(Facebook).

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

threaded (I do not know how you are called)

Called "rifling"

Not true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_registry
The only thing you have to do in the US is to fill in a form (on a yellow paper I think) at the vendor. Not at the police station.
Then the forms are stored in heaps in some buildings.
Almost impossible to track weapons to the owner in case of a felony.
Browsing micro fiches and at best forms convertered to PDF format...
When you have a car however it only take seconds to find the owner!

The real foundation of both sides in this argument. Can be explained by the following:

#1 - Those that Trust Power and Government are on one side of this argument

#2 - Those that Distrust Power and Government are on the other side of this argument.

There lays the real issue. Both sides refusing to sit down & seek a reasonable compromise/solution.

How about another organisation running the database that gun owners 'trust', on behalf of government.

Sounds like a job for the NRA.

Guns sold through dealers are listed by serial # when the FEDERAL background check is performed. This being the law, why would additional registration be necessary?

Well, since you want every sale to run through a dealers hands, 99.99% solved.

#1 - Those that Trust Power and Government are on one side of this argument

#2 - Those that Distrust Power and Government are on the other side of this argument.

Which stated another way,
#1-Those that believe the Power flows from the Government to The People.

#2-Those that believe the Power flows from The People to the Government.

or ......those who wish to control others lives vs. those who only wish to control their own lives.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

The real foundation of both sides in this argument. Can be explained by the following:

#1 - Those that Trust Power and Government are on one side of this argument

#2 - Those that Distrust Power and Government are on the other side of this argument.

There lays the real issue. Both sides refusing to sit down & seek a reasonable compromise/solution.

He is BS'ing you. The crazies who already have a gun don't want the cops responding to a domestic disturbance call to know that there are 357 guns in the house, because they will then stay until they have all 357 guns locked up pending the resolution of the court case. Right now the crazy can just give up one gun because the cops don't know about the rest. He can use the other 356 to shoot up the shelter where his woman is hiding.

#1 - Those that Trust Power and Government are on one side of this argument

#2 - Those that Distrust Power and Government are on the other side of this argument.

Which stated another way,
#1-Those that believe the Power flows from the Government to The People.

#2-Those that believe the Power flows from The People to the Government.

or ......those who wish to control others lives vs. those who only wish to control their own lives.

JE... That is what is driving this and many other debates within the USA.

Still the same beliefs which have been dividing us for over 200 years.

Agree 100%......but that debate, except one notable 3 year period of insanity, has been civil and for the most part respectful.

Another Pandora not to be returned to the box?

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

LEFTists SHOOT Their Mouths Off Quickly Again, While SHOOTING Selves In Foot.

LEFTists Never Learn to COOL Their Jets.

Made FOOLs of Again.

LOST ALL CRED.

APEs are SMARTER

ORANG ORANGE YAPe

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

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[color=orange]APEs are SMARTER

Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ3gOCtoK0U
And why do you not look in to the mirror?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNqirOJ5qAw

You missed the proverbial elephant in the room: over two centuries of slavery and its offshoots of the deadliest war in US history, the Klan and its three thousand or so murders, Jim Crow and its endemic and systemic racism that relegated generations to second-class citizen status.

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Just specifically referencing what is happening today is not unique...

Well I can't argue with that.

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