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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19099 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Time to follow the Australian example, where gun deaths have halved since 1996. Because the US Military and the Police will obey the law, if it is put in place to ban them. And if they don't it would just again proves the US is not a civilised country. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
well Gary lets see how the ratio goes in say 6 months . The Paris attack took 10 terrorists and seeing as 89 where in just one place I would say that attack is quiet different from what you are seeing in the states . France is a lot easy to get to than the U.S . So comparing France to the U.S is not the same . Compare Australia to the U.S is more correct as it's harder for the terrorist to get into both our country's . But lets see how many more attacks in your country will occur and what the body count and ratio is then . Compare the mass shootings in your country over the last 12 months to France and the body count is higher and so is the ratio . I expect for every lone wolf attack in your country you will see at least 10 -15 dead I don't think you will see that in France . And you wont see it in Australia that's for shore oh 7 terrorist where killed on the day of the attack 2 or 3 more at the house and 1 still on the lose . I wonder what would have happened if there had been 10 terrorists in 1 attack in the states a lot more than what happened in France i'll bet you . Ratio in France 12 to 1 and it took a major attack not 2 separate attacks and only 3 terrorists and the ratio so far is 6 to 1 and they where not major attacks So far 2 attacks in France 139 dead and 12 attackers ratio 11.5 to 1 and both where planned attacks , in your country only 1 was planned really as this one seems to be more about revenge and not a planned and financially back attack like in France so what would the Ratio be if there where planned and backed by ISIS ? your already at 6 to 1 for unplanned not financially backed lone wolf attacks Just wake up and get rid off the Assault rifles and do what your chief says make it very hard for these to occur . You will never stop all killing with guns but you can reduce it by 95% and still have the right to bear arms . If it keeps going you will lose that right . AS more and more realise the cost is to high for a few to have there toys and that is what they are Adult toys |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30692 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
in your country only 1 was planned really as this one seems to be more about revenge and not a planned and financially back attack like in France so what would the Ratio be if there where planned and backed by ISIS ? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/12/04/san-bernardino-attackers-tried-to-cover-their-tracks-official-says/ One of the two people involved in the San Bernardino attack that killed 14 people pledged allegiance to the leader of the Islamic State, the clearest indication yet that this was an act of terrorism, according to two law enforcement officials. Won't surprise anyone to find out ISIL is busy brainwashing the girls who are coming from western countries to return home and radicalize their new hubbies into being terrorists. Just like inserting a spy into another country cold war style. |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Another attack on Wednesday morning in California. Attacks like these are the scariest since the perpetrators up til Wednesday were thought to be likeable Muslim citizens.http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-live-updates-htmlstory.html Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
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OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
So 2 terrorist attacks and the body count is 23 dead and 3 terrorists dead , not a bad kill ratio .What was the kill ratio in France, where guns are banned? Alaska and Idaho are GOP (red) states. They are not liberal. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
So 2 terrorist attacks and the body count is 23 dead and 3 terrorists dead , not a bad kill ratio .What was the kill ratio in France, where guns are banned? OK. I rephrase:) In Alaska and Idaho, the authorities are forbidden to keep records of who owns firearms. Alaska The US state of Alaska has very permissive gun laws, and very few regulations regarding the sale, possession, and use of firearms and ammunition compared to those in most of the continental United States Idaho https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Idaho Whatever. So far this year there have been 353 mass shootings in the United States. Here they are. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/2015-the-year-in-mass-shootings-20151203 Mass shooting is defined as when 4 people or more are either killed or injured in the same event. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30692 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Alaska and Idaho are GOP (red) states. They are not liberal. He meant liberal in the sense of permissive. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Alaska and Idaho are GOP (red) states. They are not liberal. Oh, I see. Still, I don't think the GOP would take well to being called liberals (that which they despise). |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Alaska and Idaho are GOP (red) states. They are not liberal. I think they do:) https://www.gop.com/ Black Republican Activists GOP Hispanics RNC Women GOP Faith Asian Pacific Americans GOP Millennials Veterans & Military Families |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Are There More Arrogant Preachy AssHoles in Australia, Canada, UK per Million than in U S of A? Yup I agree better to be un-Civilised and then just think my country can be guilty of Mass murder in the health system Mass shooting every couple of weeks Debts we can't pay Have our pensions stolen so bad politicians can just spend money they don't have and is not there's by way of BONDS Where if you can't get a job (GFC) your left with few options and will probably mean you will turn to crime Yep being un-civilised is great can't wait for it to happen . Na it wont we actually use our brains and aren't sheep and do what ever is the in thing attitude to do . Plus we control our poly's as we actually vote for them and don't leave it to others to make decisions for us at all levels of government including our constitution Can you make this statement about your country mmmmm no you can't . Forrest Gump principle is the norm over your way . Back at ya !! Gooba hehehehehe |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Are There More Arrogant Preachy AssHoles in Australia, Canada, UK per Million than in U S of A? Glenn. At very least you have Blakforce:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ8iAjhiJNk |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
BTW: 'Mass' killings, per percentage of total population: Looks like you read this Clyde. http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-leads-world-in-mass-shootings-1443905359 For heavens sake. Have you not listened to what Mark Twain said? The U.S. represents less than 5% of the 7.3 billion global population but accounted for 31% of global mass shooters during the period from 1966 to 2012, more than any other country, Mr. Lankford said, adding that he defines a mass shooter as one who killed at least four victims. In Norway Breivik shot 69 people to death in a couple of hours. But Norway have had only that one mass shooting in 15 years! Mass shootings between 2000-14 sorted by fatality rate. Norway 1 Finland 2 Switzerland 1 United States 133 Israel 2 Germany 6 |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
There's a simple enough answer that doesn't require gun control. Just restrict the supply & sale of ammunition... ...bet it wouldn't be long before that old chesnut crops up: - "But that will be putting jobs at risk". |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Jann thanks for that , I haven't seen that show bloody funny as , takes the pee outa the American show Cops . "Bad boys bad boys what you gona do , what you gona do when they come for you " I'll have to make a note to watch it on Wednesday |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
UK somehow manages fifth successive year with no mass shootings Reality Internet Personality |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19099 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19099 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
No. One mass shooting in a year would in most civilised countries be an unusual event. In the US ONLY one mass shooting per day would be an improvement. ___________________________________ What most of the gun supports don't understand, is that if you have something, you will use it. example 1. Visit widowed mother-in-law, some kitchen cupboard doors and handles are loose. If you have screwdriver available, you fix it. If no screwdriver available you promise to bring screwdriver next time, but probably don't, because out of sight, out of mind. example 2. You live out in the country and at 6 pm find a necessary ingredient for cooking dinner has been used earlier by sons, there is no late opening local shop. If you have a car, take quick trip to local town and purchase necessary item, dinner is served a little late. If you don't have a car, make something else. What happens when you can carry a gun. example 1. Someone insults you in a bar after you have had one too many, not being brave enough to give insulter a slap, you draw gun and shoot him and several others. Guns banned, everybody usually lives. example 2. A family member is depressed. Gun in house, easy way one, shots oneself. No gun in house, eventually someone else notices and depressed person is taken to get help. Therefore there is only one answer. BAN the GUNS. As that link by Es says, no mass killings for over a year is impossible says the gun lobby. The US should try in sometime. It's great. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Looks like you read this Clyde. I have seen that article you refer too as well. It doesn't change the fact that you cannot draw any conclusion from the data. You need more samples to do that. That Norway and Finland are now very "dangerous" places is not true as far as I know. The Norway "statistic" case is all about Anders Breivik! Your Edit: It would be interesting to compare US state numbers with EU numbers. I'm convinced you will see a pattern. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30692 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
No. One mass shooting in a year would in most civilised countries be an unusual event. In the US ONLY one mass shooting per day would be an improvement. Deal with it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/03/weve-had-a-massive-decline-in-gun-violence-in-the-united-states-heres-why/ Premeditated mass shootings in public places are happening more often, some researchers say, plunging towns and cities into grief and riveting the attention of a horrified nation. In general, though, fewer Americans are dying as a result of gun violence — a shift that began about two decades ago. More and more guns but less people dying. Your theory about less guns means less deaths seems to have a datum that doesn't fit and it doesn't seem to be experimental error either. Toss the theory is the correct scientific method response. |
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