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Message 1713360 - Posted: 15 Aug 2015, 13:05:43 UTC - in response to Message 1713272.  

No Im not buying into Trumps stand that all illegals are criminals and tyhe other vile crap he said. I also realize that someone else supplies them with fake SS numbers. Your point of Giving them one on enrty is well taken. Providing They came here legally.
As to what to do with the ones here illegal. Im not sure what should be done.
Do they have jobs? any U.S. born children? Are they law abiding?
I know the majority are hard working folks just trying to make a better life.
Maybe the problem is our quotas on immigrants? Or is it the rich company or indivudal just trying to save some $ on labor?


Good to hear you don't buy into all that crap sir! :-) Yes, I would say the problem is the arbitrary limit on quotas.
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Message 1713361 - Posted: 15 Aug 2015, 13:08:06 UTC - in response to Message 1713285.  

I do what I have to do to survive.
You wanna be me???
I don't think so.
My life is quite different than many.

And you do not want to be me or try to work it.
You really do not.


So the bottom line is that you think you're special and so normal rules don't apply to you. And you're so focused on your own life's problems that you do not stop to see that everyone has their own hardships, some worse than your own. The real question becomes: what do you do to help others so they are more inclined to help you? THAT'S how life becomes easier.
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Message 1713433 - Posted: 15 Aug 2015, 15:08:06 UTC
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This (with the amendment: man/woman; he/she; and him/her) has come to sum up my thinking on most things:



Trump - for me - would fall short - and by the same considerable margin as the other Republican candidates.

Bernie Sanders on the other hand... :-)

edited to add he/she; and him/her to man/woman above :-)
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Message 1713518 - Posted: 15 Aug 2015, 18:38:50 UTC

Didn't realize he's against vaccinations:

"Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!"
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I wonder what other anti-science views he subscribes to.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1713530 - Posted: 15 Aug 2015, 19:05:24 UTC - in response to Message 1713518.  

Didn't realize he's against vaccinations:

"Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!"
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I wonder what other anti-science views he subscribes to.

Donald is ingnorante!
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Message 1713823 - Posted: 16 Aug 2015, 6:48:32 UTC



I found this rather entertaining cartoon on George Will's column

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/will081315.php3

Entitled:

Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican


LOL... yep.
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Message 1713830 - Posted: 16 Aug 2015, 7:00:04 UTC - in response to Message 1713823.  



I found this rather entertaining cartoon on George Will's column

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/will081315.php3

Entitled:

Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican


LOL... yep.


Or not?
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Message 1713979 - Posted: 16 Aug 2015, 16:38:04 UTC

Nothing on immigration, but here's the Meet the Press interview:

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/trump-it-would-be-miracle-if-hillary-continues-run-n410566
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Message 1714018 - Posted: 16 Aug 2015, 17:08:27 UTC - in response to Message 1713816.  

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He's just as dangerous as stupid little, and just as ignorant of reality, Socialists.

Perhaps The Donald and Socialists, could be exiled to a deserted island, and leave us alone.

One could only hope and pray.


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Message 1715230 - Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 9:56:29 UTC

Big problem with the Donald's idea for illegals , big problem for amnesty

illegals : some will end up saying there undercutting wages , some will say Job's for Americans first and this type of unrest can lead to very bad laws being past or riots and a lot of political unrest .

amnesty : It won't take to many years before you will have to do it again .

Can America come to terms with a almost free border crossing and not implode ??

Only you guys can answer that .....
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Message 1726852 - Posted: 18 Sep 2015, 14:54:51 UTC

Thank You Mr. T R U M P for NOT Correcting Questioner in N.H. when referring to PitifulPeacePrizin'DroneHitManScandalsWhatScandals?Hustlin'HUSSEIN, as a Muslim and NOT American.

My Face is UGLY and You Are Earning My Vote, More, Everyday.

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Politically INCORRECT?

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Message 1726854 - Posted: 18 Sep 2015, 15:04:10 UTC - in response to Message 1726852.  

Thank You Mr. T R U M P for NOT Correcting Questioner in N.H. when referring to PitifulPeacePrizin'DroneHitManScandalsWhatScandals?Hustlin'HUSSEIN, as a Muslim and NOT American.

My Face is UGLY and You Are Earning My Vote, More, Everyday.

Sweetness.

Politically INCORRECT?

Yep Yup fO ShO

So you support someone with such an obviously slim grasp of reality?

Now we know what sort of person will vote for trump.
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Message 1726870 - Posted: 18 Sep 2015, 15:54:37 UTC - in response to Message 1726854.  

So you support someone with such an obviously slim grasp of reality?

Now we know what sort of person will vote for trump.

Someone who also has a slim grasp of reality. The question is why such persons are allowed to vote?
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Message 1726903 - Posted: 18 Sep 2015, 18:12:11 UTC - in response to Message 1726901.  

Trump's most attractive feature is that he is not beholden to any donor. There's no reason to believe he's saying one thing right now and then will do something different when he is elected. Everyone else running for president is saying one thing right now and then if elected, will do what their donors tell them to do later. If you really want to hear what they're going to do if elected, ask their donors.

That makes him all the more scary because the things he is saying are absolutely insane.
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Message 1726914 - Posted: 18 Sep 2015, 18:37:40 UTC - in response to Message 1726901.  

... The question is why such persons are allowed to vote?


wow...

Ok, well, I also think there are some people out there who should not be allowed to vote.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77907&postid=1710094#1710094

And anybody unaware of the real state of our nation should not be allowed to vote either.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77605&postid=1709717#1709717

Trump's most attractive feature is that he is not beholden to any donor. There's no reason to believe he's saying one thing right now and then will do something different when he is elected. Everyone else running for president is saying one thing right now and then if elected, will do what their donors tell them to do later. If you really want to hear what they're going to do if elected, ask their donors.


So, the only reason someone says one thing and then does another is because of donors?

Or, is it because power corrupts?

Or, something else?

Or, some mixture of things?

(How about learning the "true" true nature of the state of things, from the CIA, NSA, military etc. ... once one gets in the White House as another possibility?)
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Message 1726943 - Posted: 18 Sep 2015, 19:59:31 UTC - in response to Message 1726937.  

So, the only reason someone says one thing and then does another is because of donors?

Or, is it because power corrupts?

Or, something else?

Or, some mixture of things?

(How about learning the "true" true nature of the state of things, from the CIA, NSA, military etc. ... once one gets in the White House as another possibility?)


Been there inside the other possibilities (in 2/3rds of the above mentioned organizations), done that... for many years.

When I say don't trust politicians beholden to donors, it's not because I'm guessing.

But you don't have to trust me. Just look at the last 4 presidents and compare what they said to get elected to what they did.

This Jeffersonian Liberal just wants to save this country. Get rid of the donors and you'll have a better chance at repairing the other possibilities.


So we agree that Citizens United (or many parts of it) is also bad?
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Message 1726957 - Posted: 18 Sep 2015, 20:59:40 UTC - in response to Message 1726937.  

Get rid of the donors and you'll have a better chance at repairing the other possibilities.

OMG, Guy on this we agree, next the sky will fall.
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Message 1726961 - Posted: 18 Sep 2015, 21:09:41 UTC

Hmmm.
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