I think that it is fair to say that in the near future we can put this "We have been visited "stuff to rest. If we haven't already; we will soon have searched for truly Earth-like planets around all stars out to 100 light years as well as promising moons. If there are in fact any "Habitable" planets that we find we can then concentrate our SETI efforts on these ones.

We will probably not find other venues at these distances with all of the necessary conditions for intelligent life to form. If we do; we won't detect any transmissions or other signs of life if they are not intentionally sending out a focused "we are here" message. if they are then we would have heard them by now.

Speculating that multi-decade trips have been undertaken from these distances and beyond just doesn't make good sense.

To support the notion that life will spontaneously arise in a fertile environment then we desperately need to confirm life on Mars. Either microbial or plant life--perhaps now long extinct.

I completely agree with this. I would add that there is also great interest in Europa due the the probability of a "below the surface" liquid water ocean.

It would not be unreasonable to speculate that microbial or more advanced life could be living in those ocean(s).

Steve

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Their here??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3146196/Aliens-exist-look-like-HUMANS-Life-planets-evolved-similar-way-Earth-biologist-claims.html


If aliens do exist they probably look like HUMANS: Life on other planets may have evolved in a similar way to Earth, biologist claims

Professor Simon Conway Morris, a palaeontologist at Cambridge University, argues in a new book that convergent evolution predicts life on other planets would resemble creatures on Earth.

Their here??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3146196/Aliens-exist-look-like-HUMANS-Life-planets-evolved-similar-way-Earth-biologist-claims.html


If aliens do exist they probably look like HUMANS: Life on other planets may have evolved in a similar way to Earth, biologist claims

Professor Simon Conway Morris, a palaeontologist at Cambridge University, argues in a new book that convergent evolution predicts life on other planets would resemble creatures on Earth.

Well, if they ever do visit, I hope they're not big giant bugs, nice as though they may be. ;~)

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Professor Simon Conway Morris is all about warm fuzzy science. I beg to differ. All of his results are based on 1 planet. Even earth like planets might have enough different conditions to create unique life forms. Convergence makes sense when the conditions don't vary much.

I think we will have to find life on other planets to see if convergence is a reality.

Just my 2 cent worth.

Bob

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Professor Simon Conway Morris is all about warm fuzzy science. I beg to differ. All of his results are based on 1 planet. Even earth like planets might have enough different conditions to create unique life forms. Convergence makes sense when the conditions don't vary much.

I think we will have to find life on other planets to see if convergence is a reality.

Just my 2 cent worth.

Bob

At this point it is all speculation. Such as, I think intelligent creatures being reptilian is not very likely. The dinosaurs had a very long time to evolve into intelligent being here on earth and it never happened.

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I would think that an intelligent being could be any of many forms, but with, or without the advantage of being able to manipulate their environment. We have hands, octopi have arms and suction cups. On the other hand, dolphins have sonar. Dolphins and whales are quite intelligent, but are adapted for their environment. With the advantage of hands, humans were able to adapt themselves to various environments. I am not sure we could ever classify what an intelligent being would look like, without actually seeing one or more. There may be countless possibilities that could evolve, depending on unique environmental conditions.

Steve

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Do you think of yourself as being precious and unique, Steve?

If my current knowledge, or my ability to get or obtain this is by means of a floppy disc I could insert into the floppy disc drive of my computer, I would not be doing such a thing that well.

A couple of years ago I purchased a set of 3 CD-ROM discs for the Enclyclopaedia Britannica.

Slightly before the web went into action, there were two CD's for the installation software as well as other programs and data coming with the package.

Because this was being designed for Windows 98 or Windows 2000 and even not Windows XP, this did not work out.

Everyone knows that the Wikipedia today is the most comprehensible dictionary found on the web, but even this work probably does not mention "Flatland", as well as couple of things you may have come across, but still is not being found on your floppy disc, but perhaps rather in the back of your head instead.

Here on earth we may find intelligence in both humans as well as a couple of animals, like the dolphin and the chimpanzee.

The spider in contrast is making up its own web because its rather primitive brain has such a function pre-programmed in advance.

This as a result of evolution as well as adaptation to the surroundings.

Therefore, if we are not thinking about or considering computers or the like, we still are relating intelligence to the physical as well as material in this world.

Everything which is related to life on earth is based on the element Carbon (atomic number 6).

In addition to Carbon, the molecules which are defining or representing what we assume or think of is the basic princicple of life are based mainly on the elements Hydrogen, Nitrogen and Oxygen.

Two atoms of Hydrogen and one atom of Oxygen makes water out of it. Not more difficult than that.

Should we perhaps leave these questions to the chemistry expert to answer, or should perhaps the physics professor rather have the last word instead?

So, because of this, should we perhaps be thankful to the person who put up the umbrella towards the sky in order to understand thunder and lightning? Unfortunately I lost this name for now, but at least he was a very brave man.

Trying "Faraday" or "Faraday cage" in order to see what I get.

Apparently Michael Faraday for his name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Faraday

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Clerk_Maxwell

Again, a small departure or deviation from the current subject.

You should know, not all people are believing in aliens.

Mathematics is supposed to explain one set of given terms in the same way as physics and chemistry are supposed to be doing the same.

Still, we are left either behind or in the middle, possibly because probably noone really knows where we are supposed to fit in compared with all of the rest of it.

Definitely science is best being carried out by means of a skeptical approach where neither belief, or being a believer is supposed to be the best thing.

The same goes with debunking of science as well, which means that either you are not able to make up an opinion of your own, or even find time to make a laugh of it all.

There may have been some YouTube documentaries around purportedly telling the story about the first and second level of what may be regarded as intelligently created craft being manufactured by "others".

Apparently one of the sources behind this information, Bob (or Robert) Lazar was able to tell us that he was able to have a look inside such a craft, but was not being given access to the upper or third level of this craft.

"Picabu Mountain", or whatever that is. I lost the translation for this word and for now unable to find it again.

The same most likely goes with the rest of this subject. A lot of scrutiny and dedicated research definitely is behind all of this, but for now apparently only bits of pieces being returned back when it comes to results.

Made a painting of some aliens last week :D

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Where are all the aliens?

I'm here (but keep it to yourselves as it's that's suppose to be a universal secret). ;-)

I'm so sorry, but I couldn't resist posting that. :-D

Cheers.