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James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
The problem with 'armoring' against anti-ship missiles is they don't attack the sides of vessels like projectiles or torpedoes, they do a 'pop-up' and dive down on the topsides. It's hard to counter an over head attack as the Japanese discovered when US dive bombers sank the most heavily armored battleship ever built, the Musashi. That also depends on how close one is to the detonation. Remember, Back in those tests they exploded at 2,000 feet. If your under and or close you are slag. Yes the armour might survive. Every living crew member wont. And what is left wont be worth decontaminating. Also remember that a battle fleet supports the aircraft carrie. Seeing as we dont have battleships anymore. Which ship do you think could take an airburst Nuke the best? answer, A sub down deep. You dont need to sink the ship nowdays, Just kill the crew. An airburst nuke can do that job just as well as torpedo or a 16" armour piercing shell. [/quote] Old James |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
An icebreaker festival will be held in St. Peterburg of 2-3 May on the occasion of the 70th anniversary of the victory in World War II. https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fse.sputniknews.com%2Farktis%2F20150424%2F97390.html&edit-text= My brother had to paint the chimney on Atle when he was a conscript. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65780 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
An icebreaker festival will be held in St. Petersburg of 2-3 May on the occasion of the 70th anniversary of the victory in World War II. Having to paint the 'smoke stack'.. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
My brother had to paint the chimney on Atle when he was a conscript. HeHeHe. Smoke ring perhaps:) But he told me how high it was. He had a nice view of Stockholm though. About ice in the Baltic sea. When I bought my sailing boat, Ana, back in the 80's it was ice warning in the beginning of May! My hands got frozen and we had problem with the motor when passing a floodgate when we to sailed it home to me... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Lord Nelsons flagship HMS Victory are constantly maintained due to the weather and water. For instance the caulkings needs to be changed now and then. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caulking They use Stocholm tar because new methods doesn't work:) Genuine Stockholm Tar, "The Real Stuff"™ http://www.tarsmell.com/tar.html Traditional sailors describe this rare grade of tar in words usually reserved for fine wines and tobaccos. Stockholm tar has been valued for hundreds of years as a preservative for word and natural fiber rope. It is the smell of the square-rigged ship. It is used today in ships, small and large, that sail for a living. Josefin Arrhénborg och Maria Rindstam are owner to this shop in Stockholm. https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tackelochtag.se%2F&edit-text= |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Janne, WHAT THE F*** Doesn't it rain in England? I have been on board. When I wrote this a TV show from Portsmouth showed how it is been done. They have done that for 250 years and hope to do it for another 250 years... The Royal Navy Lieutenant Commander in charge showed it and the reporter had the honour of helping them caulking the ship. http://www.contemporarysculptor.com/hms-victory.htm Restoration The year 2015 marks the 250th anniversary of the launch of the world’s oldest commissioned, and most famous warship, HMS Victory. http://www.thedockyard.co.uk/plan/events/hms-victory-untold-story/ A drydock is not dry when raining... Have you ever been on a ship? It's always damp! Do your homework Chris!!!!! Your "fact" that HMS Victory was relocated 1922 is WRONG! 8 April 1925 is the CORRECT date. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Chris especially for you:) HMS Victory caulking! Among the issues include building a new dry dock cradle and making her top deck watertight. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defence/restorers-face-last-chance-to-preserve-hms-victory-1-6500146 https://www.google.se/#q=hms%20victory%20caulking Andrew Baines, curator at the National Museum of the Royal Navy and project director of HMS Victory, said they face a battle to maintain the ship as she is. He said: ‘We are probably at the last opportunity to truly save the ship and make sure that significant historic material is going to survive in her.’ Since taking ownership of Victory in 2012, the museum has taken a slow approach to the work, as fears grow this is the final chance of a project this size can be done on the timber ship. Mr Baines and his team are looking to make the top deck waterproof. Rainwater is currently leaking through, causing the lower decks to rot and mould, and making the wooden beams decay. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
A drydock is not dry when raining... I have owned a wooden boat. You have to caulk ALL seams. In developing the Victory conservation project, the National Museum of the Royal Navy (NMRN) is following guidelines set out in the National Historic Ships UK (NHSUK) Publication ‘Conserving Historic Vessels’. NHSUK is clear that the first task to undertake when taking responsibility for a vessel is first aid – stop things getting worse. This we have done with Victory by projects such as caulking the upper decks and painting the hull. We have worked to stop things getting worse, but we have also spent much time... Pictures of Victory's quarter deck with caulked seams! We call them nåt. http://www.hms-victory.com/things-to-see/quarter-deck You also caulk wooden houses... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Ahoy sailing friends. My boat called Ana was built 1939 and is a Drake "Dragon". https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.segladrake.se%2Fdrakens-historia%2F&edit-text= Dragons in action. https://youtu.be/pDV5ojL4E1o http://sailingbastad.se/dragon-2015/ And Volvo Ocean Race update. http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/home.html |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Ahoy:) Valerius Hansson and Tom Olof Ström tests the new sailing products fender gloss, sail shampoo and anchor and grapnel adhesive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJrWKD4Ioi4 Lath Sleeve, Spinnacer Quilt and straight Tell-Tales... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEGpaU6bxwQ |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Would have loved to witness this. So do I. My sister and nephew lives in Liverpool. My bet is that my sister are in the pub and my nephew are "engaged" on his phone and miss the great event:) |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65780 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Would have loved to witness this. Hopefully a repeat of 1912 can be avoided.. Later this year the original Cunard transatlantic crossing will be recreated as the Queen Mary 2 sails from Liverpool on the same route the Britannia took, to Halifax, Boston and New York. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Hopefully a repeat of 1912 can be avoided.. Can't see what a Cunard ship has to do with the White Star Line's Titanic. Britannia Made her crossing on 4th July 1840 & was sunk as a target ship in 1880. Since then Cunard has no ship named Britannia. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65780 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Hopefully a repeat of 1912 can be avoided.. Icebergs from Greenland.. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Hopefully a repeat of 1912 can be avoided.. Sorry Vic you're still not seeing it. Are you telling me that there were no icebergs anywhere on that crossing before 1912, they suddenly appeared for that year only, considering how many crossings have actually been made, no one saw any? By naming the ship & the year... ...Oh & there are a lot more safety devices & tools for modern ships compared to then. & courtesy of the Titanic disaster we Have this |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Hopefully a repeat of 1912 can be avoided.. Perhaps a confusion in name with Titanic's sister the Britannic? http://www.titanic-whitestarships.com/Britannic1_1914.htm "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65780 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Hopefully a repeat of 1912 can be avoided.. Don't put words into My mouth, I only mentioned 1912 and that is the only year I was typing about silly. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65780 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Hopefully a repeat of 1912 can be avoided.. Nope, I said icebergs, like in 1912... The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I can say that no boat have been called Titanic after 1912. I wonder if there are any boats called Estonia today. Or Concordia. |
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